AcctCanc06

I been thinking of buying an suv. What do think is better a HONDA PILOT or a MITSUBISHI ENDEAVOR????

BiggJ12

The HONDA PILOT without a doubt. Just look at the resale values and crash test ratings. check out the iihs scores for bumper bash tests too. the pilot is the only vehicle that received an acceptable rating. everything else was marginal or poor. fuel economy is better with the pilot and the pilot is less money comparably equipped. more horsepower in the pilot(240 v. 225), not to mention a 5 speed automatic transmission versus the endeavors 4 spd. that extra forward gear helps with acceleration and fuel economy. automatic climate control on the pilot ex is very nice. the endeavor doesnt have that. no 3 rd row in the endeavor. just i case u go to dinner with friends and their kids. Honda thinks of everything. they even have a coin holder and more cupholders(9 v. 4) and the always the big kicker...TONS more interior room. seems like a no brainer to me. and just think about the 2 different companies too...honda always leads in safety performance and fuel economy, and whats up with mitsu? and profits...wow!! honda sells everything they build, because its all quality. mitsu is having tons of trouble right now, financially and with recalls(or service updates, whatever they call them)

indoMFP

I would go with the Pilot also, but I was thouroughly impressed with the endeavor. I drove it and it is a nice car, but when it comes to more bang for the buck, reliability, and styling... the Pilot has my vote...

uood8

well....

Pilot - hp- 240@5400 tq- 242@4500

Endeavor - hp-225@5000
tq-255@3700
Endeavor mpg - 2wd-17/23 awd-17/21

Pilot mpg -17/22

Endeavor:

Wheelbase (in.): 108.3
Length (in.): 190.2
Height (in.) with roof rails: 69.6
Height (in.) with cross bars: 70.2
Minimum Ground Clearance (in.): 8.3
Curb Weight (lbs.) - 2WD: 3904
- AWD: 4079
Wheel Size - 17in
Pilot :

Wheelbase (in.) 106.3
Length (in.) 188.0
Height (in.) 70.6
Minimum Ground Clearance (in.) 8.0
Curb Weight (lbs.) 4387
Width (in.) 77.3
Wheels 16"

Interior features favor the pilot by one inch all the way around.

Resale favors the pilot.

Transmission :

Pilot -5-Speed Automatic Transmission
Variable Torque Management® 4-Wheel Drive (VTM-4™)

Endeavor - Sportronic™ 4-Speed Automatic Transmission with Adaptive Shift Control and Clutchless Manual Shift Mode

(and btw...honda transmissions suck, thusfore the recall)

Endeavor - #1 crossover SUV -edmunds.com

pilot ex-l -- endeavor xls
Base Price MSRP $30,870 -- $29,899
Comparably Equipped Price $33,394 -- $30,794

and there ya go...none of this biased sh*t-- and o the honda has better gas mileage, and reliablity blah blah. my acura has been in the service department more in 10k miles than my mazda @ 70k. my opinion is get the one you like the best, drive them both for extended periods of time and get the one that suits you. my roomate is a honda salesman and and he will yell you mitsubishi makes a good car, the only downfall is the resale. otherwise look at leasing, just give it back the negative equity is not your problem.

o yea...warranty.

Warranty
pilot -- endeavor
Basic Time (Months) 36 -- 36
Basic Time (Miles) 36000 -- 36000
Powertrain Time (Months) 36 -- 120
Powertrain Time (Miles) 36000 -- 100000

uood8

BiggJ12

well, in 2 years when mitsu. is no longer around, how good will that warranty be then?

uood8

mitsubishi will be around in 2 years....reguardless of what you think you know...mitsubishi's do sell, i am in the car business and a dealership which i will not name rolls out more mitsubishi's than their sister dealership sells...which is honda...for this month the honda dealership has 2...count it...2 cars out for the month and its the 19th...anything else you would like for me to address?

but back to the thread, they are both good vehicles...they each have their advantages and dis-advantages. thats why i advised him/her to drive each and pick the one that suits their needs.

uood8

sorry..not 2 for the month....2 for today...16 for the month...still aweful :thumbsdn:

vandy786

I heard rumors that Mitsubishi is voiding warranties for cars that have been used to run at tracks, dragstrips, auto-x events, etc. Supposedly, they are going to great lengths to find the people who do these things with their cars. Mitsubishi is in BIG TROUBLE and now they are trying to cut even more corners than before by saving on warranty repairs (which the customer already paid for when buying the car). So yea, Mitsu does make great cars but there is a very high chance they may not be around in 2 years.

As far as Mitsus outselling Hondas, I highly doubt it. From those numbers you gave us, it does sound like you live in an economically challenged / depressed area but if Honda's selling 2 cars a day, Mitsubishi would be lucky to sell one every two days. Maybe you see cars like the Evo rolling out regularly because people (like me) love to go for test drives in those things. I've test driven the thing 3 times already

AcctCanc06

Today i bought the endeavor. I test drove both cars and felt the mitsubishi was better... the endeavor felt a lot more quicker than the pilot. The pilot has more hp but the endeavor has a lot more torque. I'm not planning to race with an suv, so hp doesn't matter, torque does. The endeavor handled a lot better than the pilot in cornering. The limited endeavor and pilot ex-l was about the same price, but mitsubishi has a $2000 rebate and free maintaince for 4 years and a lot longer warranties than the honda. I also felt the styling of the endeavor was a lot nicer than the pilot with its 17inch rims. I also thought that there are too much pilots on the road and i wanted to stand out a little.

vsop TL-S

good luck with that...I would have chosen the Honda...that is all..If you want to call me bias than fine...Honda still resale for more...

Darkshear

iTrader: (1)

i dont like the Polit, but i REALLY hate Mitsu... I think they are built with plaster, have cheap parts, bad motors, and no style. But, to each his own, congrats on your new car and enjoy it!

sportious

easy answer! Honda's all the way.... resale, value, reliability, re-whatever!

ItalnMuslNYC

I had an '98 Diamante.. when it hit 50,000 miles.. blue smoke was puffin' out of the tailpipe.. and I changed that oil and maintained that engine like clockwork.. So when the blue smoke came a puffin' - I went car shoppin' - There's a reason why they give better warranties, because you're gonna need it! If you see the smoke, sell it and come back to a Honda...

vandy786

The extra long warranties, large sums of rebates, and free maintenance for 4 years keep sounding alarm bells in my head. Seems like they are trying to grab all they can before going down. :'( :'(

awood

I know nothing about either car. I think some of the the Pilot model are in the process of the tranny recall.

On the other hand, you want to buy from a manufacturer that's going to stay in business long enough to cover your warranty .


[Addendum: Wow - I guess I should have read the thread before posting. Everyone says just about the same thing...]

Darkshear

iTrader: (1)

The long warranties are extremely limited and not necessarily there because your going to need them, more over that you will probably never having to use them, and the small amount of money they are going to loose on the few people having a qualifying problem does not even come close to the amount of money they are raking in from the sales pitch...

Big rebates are factory offered, that’s why you see national commercials typically not local commercials advertising the rebates...

Free maintenance for 3/36 or 4/50 is BS too; think about it, how much actual shit needs replacing in that time period? Other than tires, maybe pads, maybe coolant flush and the maintenance schedule is BS anyway... "Check this, check that", almost no actual work till the 60,000+ area...

Whatever marketing guy invented the free maintenance or the 10yr warranty program needs a damn award though, cause they about KILLED the damn used car market because of that

fsttyms1

tha honda hands down, much more reliable,and you will have a MUCH better resale value when it does come time to sell it too

REDLINEN

Well Guys I Have A 04 Pilot And I Say Get An Mdx!

VTEC11

Does the free maintenance cover brake pads and tires too? I wouldn't think so.

AcctCanc06

I would love to have an mdx to with my tl but $40000+ is a little too expensive and with only one dealer in my state, can't really bring down the price because I already tried with two of my car salesman friends in getting my tl and got it a little more than msrp.