http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXb8LTTSLjg

He is so right!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja2nPgGtODg&NR=1

SOrry Kris now he is bashing Fram.

 

Hes not trying to make money!!

3,000 miles on synthetic

 

3000 mile intervals with synthetic oil! What a joke. And I love the meaningless and uncontrolled oil pour test to "prove" his point.

This clown acts as if the 7,500 mile oil change intervals are some sort of recent car manufacturer conspiracy to justify lower maintenance cost estimates. That's ridiculous. Honda has been recommending 7,500 mile intervals for at least 20 years.

3,000 mile oil changes have been promoted by, big surprise, those outfits that make money servicing cars.

The only thing that you guarantee with 3,000 mile intervals is that you will be spending a lot more money on oil changes over the life of your car. If you do a lot of driving, the extra cost can be substantial.

The need for 3,000 mile oil changes is one of the biggest automotive myths out there.

 

Yea I think I am gonna listen to him and go drain the Amsoil SSO out of my car and also replace the $15 amsoil filter ever 3k. I mean $70 for a 3k oil change why not.

I really want to look him up and send that network a email saying that guy is a total idiot.

 

http://www.mondaymorningmechanic.com/index.php

found him

 

5-7k is good for syn, dino oil is more like 3k

 

Unless you're driving in extreme conditions, 7,500 mile intervals are totally fine for non-synthetic oil.

I have a Honda Prelude with nearly 400,000 miles on the odometer and every oil change was at 7,500 mile intervals. It has never seen a drop of synthetic oil and it has never had a single oil related problem.

3,000 mile intervals are overkill for non-synthetic oil also.

 

BS. Only way to tell the performance of oil is to have a UOA (used oil analysis) done. I've had a UOA done on cheap $0.49/qt dino at 6000 miles and it could have easily gone another 2K miles.

 

meh, it comes down to preference really, i aim for months oppose to mileage lol, avg for me is like 4-5 months

 

This guy must be talking about how to keep the engine in good shape, but he is not talking about how to waste money.

 

"Welcome to the Monday Morning Mechanic website, your source for car tips and ideas that will help you get more miles for your dollars."

more miles for you dollars lol.

he means more dollars for him for you miles.

I have a feeling this should be in CAR TALK.
Locked up by evening.

 

That guy is an idiot. I rather take my car to jiffy lube then to him. All he does is want to make money. So come to my shop more often.
No one knows more about your car then your car company, the author of your owners manual. Although that 5.5k oil drain interval on a 90k car did scare me, my mom's 5k syn blend change on her 217k camry just flowed. Something was wrong with that car or that was way longer then a 5.5k change.

 

 

This guy Dave is a moron. Opinions of technicians/mechanics are worthless. Their skill set is procedural. The only opinions that count is of engineers, who specialize in auto mechanical engineering, people who have studied engine and oils in depth. Not some clowns who look at oil and see its black and make sh*t up.
He should look up Amsoil (25K oil change) Mobil 1 Extreme Performance (15K oil change).

 

I'm sure a good synthetic can go over 7.5K, some can go double that. The problem I have with extended intervals is with the fuel and dirt loading. The oil may hold up ok but how about all of the crap mixed in with it. A good oil will hold stuff in suspension but that doesn't mean it floats on the top, it's mixed with it.

I use the Amsoil EA020 filter with the ACD 30wt and change oil at 5K and filter at 15K. If I were running dino, I would still follow the same interval. I run a synthetic to protect from extreme heat and the fact that it flows much better in the cold. I like that it has some esters that make it cling to metal parts so there's oil on parts during startup.

The 3K oil change is not totally out of place. It's not a bad idea for a dino oil under severe duty usage.

 

Yep, 3,750 miles/6 month is what is recommended by manual for severe use, 7,500 for normal driving. These recommendations for non-synthetic oil, and I agree with them, even though I'd only put 5K miles the most on non-synthetic oil.

Also, synthetics are different. There are some new synthetics on the market specially designed for long drain intervals. Mobil 1 Extended Performance is good for 15K miles/1 year. I think this is a bit excessive, so I personally keep this stuff for like 8-9K miles/1 year.
You mentioned about all the crap floating around, its true, and that's why you need to get top of the line oil filter when you are going for extended oil change intervals.
Top of the line oil filter is a must. I use Mobil 1 oil filter, Amsoil also makes excellent oil filter.
BMW recommends 10K oil changes, and they've been doing it for a while, and non of BMWs have oil related problems. I am sure BMW engineers know what they are doing. I trust those German engineers more than this clown Dave in the video

 

3k even what most consider severe isnt needed in most. My driving is considered severe and ive had dino oil test out really good at 8k. If the motor is in good shape to begin with and running optimally the oil shouldnt have large amounts of contaminants in it.

 

I emailed this guy, and here is the response I got from him. I like when mechanics pound themselves on a chest and say "I've seen this and that for 30 years".
Just like it means anything.... given that 30 years ago engines and oils where VERY different from what we have today. I'd say mechanics should know their place (that is fixing cars)... people who speak on TV about oil changes should be automotive engineers with concentration in chemical engineering and lubrication, not some dudes who've being working hard in the shop doing manual labor for years.


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BS!!!!!!!!!





I’ve sent MANY product samples to the lab….and AMSOIL,. In my professional and personal opinion, is a marketing ploy….if you leave that and other “extended life” products in your engine ort other systems, you will have trouble before you would’ve should have chosen not to listen to the marketing noise.





ALL synthetics have a SPECIFIC gravity, and they cannot run indefinitely and still perform as intended…they being to deposit sludge on the inner walls of the engine as soon as they reach that specific gravity, as synthetic oil cleans the sludge off the engine until it can no longer sustain those particles in it’s liquid…then it does exactly the OPPOSITE…and “sludges” up your engine.



You are likely a salesman with ZERO credentials, or worse yet, someone who’s been watching late night TV and actually believes that.



We’ve been repairing and servicing automobiles for over 38 years, and have over 275 combined years of experience between the men on my team….add to that over 150 years combined racing and over 200 years of engine building experience, and that goes a hell of a lot further than your late night infomercial nonsense like you pumped in this last email.



You’re an Al Gore fan too, right?





NONSENSE!





You’d be best advised to read some basic chemistry before you continue believing things written by ad agencies and marketing people! It could cost you a fortune…just like it did for the people who believed that they should leave the “extended life” coolant in their GM vehicles….it DESTROYED MANY components…there are multiple class action lawsuits all over the US< some of which are in the process of being settled (MO).



Thank you for your email, but you’re obviously quite misinformed.



David
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That's why I run the Amsoil EA0. The best filter period based on both flow and filtration. It filters small enough that I'm not too terribly worried about the dirt other than startup when it's in bypass. On the other hand, the ULEV cars run very rich for the first few seconds at startup to fire off the convertors and it will contaminate the oil if you use the car primarily for short trips. I ran it out to 7K when I was doing 95% freeway driving.

As for the BMWs and Mercedes, most of them use much larger sumps than we do and some are factory synthetic equipped which are the main reasons they run them out so much farther.

Running 7,500 on a dino isn't going to cause your engine to blow and I'm sure it will make it to the 100K mark. I plan on keeping my car until it dies which is why I follow at stricter OCI.

The 1,000 mile OCI on my GN would make people freak out.

I trust the engineers but I think a lot of the recommendations are more from the marketing departments than the engineers.

 

my point about German cars is that this guy Dave is dead wrong. There are number of successful cars that are designed for longer drain intervals. Had the Germans made incorrect claims, you'd see their cars having engine problems left and right, but they don't. Thats the last thing they would want for their reputation, so all of those manufacture claims have been thoroughly verified. He clearly does not know what he is talking about. Maybe he was dealing with some 20 year old GMs or some crap like that, I have no idea....

 

I agree. If we were in the 1960s, he would be totally correct. The Germans use larger sumps to get their extended intervals but the guy is still wrong. I prefer the larger sumps anyway because the oil tends to stay cooler and you change the oil half as often even though price wise you're not gaining anything.

 

lol, this dude is talking that bs again, lol >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbtQeRg2UYE, he thinks the average consumer is so dumb that it will take us 5hr to change a cabin air filter, wow

 

by the way mine was changed in 18 min

 

He can be proved wrong if someone would just send them their oil analysis results.

 

Agree. I put about 8-10k on a good syn oil and filter combo. about 7.5-8k on lesser syn oils. 4k on dyno oils.
If your gonna go over 4k with syn oil, then get a good filter like K&N, Mobil or pureone. I wouldnt chance it with dino going over 4k, no matter the filter.
And yes, german cars like BMW and mecedes can hold double the oil capacity therefore they can go twice the change interval as normal cars. He did say that in the video. Can you imagine a BMW or mercedes owner getting a 70 dollar oil change every 3k?

 

its funny that this guy thinks that people should take his word over what manufactures recommend because he supposedly has 30 years of experience. He is still a mechanic, he works with his hands and does procedural tasks!!! He is not an engineer or scientist in this area! He might not trust Amsoil, but he thinks he is smarter than what owner's manual recommends. Synthetic or not, owner manual still says 3750-7500 miles. I can find dozens of articles on internet from other mechanics who now raised their limits to 5000-6000 miles.

 

Send him over to the UOA section on the Bob Is the Oil Guy forums. There are tons of UOAs on the site.

 

So the honda engineers are wrong when they say 7500 miles? Try sending in a sample and see what your results are. Ive had dino oil with 10k on it have a very respectable 3 TBN and very low contaminants with the orange filters you all love to hate. Our motors will out last the owners willingness to keep the car on dino oil and long intervals.

 

This guy is obviously an idiot. I wonder if he realizes that EVERYTHING has a specific gravity. It's just a comparison of that materials density to that of water (at the same temperature). What he's saying here makes zero sense.

He's just another "because I said so" internet genius. If you can't support your position with any actual facts then you're just tossing around bullshit conjecture. The fact that he is in a position to benefit financially from the advice he's doling out is only weighing against his credibility.

What a clown.

 

I agree honda engine's will outlast the owner's ignorance. My dad's favorite story to tell me was when he bought a CRX in 1983, drove it for 100k, and never replaced the oil on it. He claimed the thing ran like a champ still. Although he doesnt treat all his cars this way, its the fact that the CRX outlasted his neglect.

 

I am just glad that hes not my mechanic.

 

Hey we have a guy that works for us, he has a nissan altima that he changes the oil every 50k or so. He has 430k miles on it!!!! Every fluid in that motor and trans is original. That car owes him NOTHING! Those that say they want their motor to last 100k and change their oil ever 3k

 

My boss was telling him when he started off working for the company, his boss didnt change the oil in his 240 diesal benz for years. Car ran great, but the oil came out as putty. I think they ran fresh oil in the enging twice and it was fine.

 

Im not saying their wrong. If they are right, then they are. But im still going to follow "my" intervals. Better to be safe then sorry. Its not like im changing synthetic oil every 3k, which some claim to do on here.

 

I say let people change their oil ever 3,000. If somebody wants to spend the money for piece of mind, so be it. I work for Mercedes Benz as tech and I'd like to ask this guy why I've never seen any Mercedes Benz engine with 13,000 mile service intervals become damaged by the oil "break down". To top that off, Mercedes has set 7,500 mile intervals even using non-synthetic oil on the older models.

In addition, I've drained synthetic oil from a vehicle that was driven 12,000 miles past its 13,000 mile service. The engine was running fine. Sure only 5 or 6 quarts came out, but it still didn't have the viscosity nor look remotely close to his "5,500 mile oil"

 

So you are taking some technician opinion (who has no facts) over manufacture's ? OK then. I am supervised people are foolish enough to believe that manufactures are actually trying to extend oil drain intervals beyond acceptable limit. Do you think they are so stupid that they are willing to take that risk? Wide spread engine problems could quickly destroy their reputation beyond recovery. Its just not worth the risk for them. Modern engines run much cleaner, oils are much better, and filters are also much better!

 

I just finished replacing the cabin air filter in my car. I started last Thursday. Oil usually takes me two weeks to change.

This guy is a moron. He has some points about quality oil filters but the rest is bunk. I think being on TV has gone to his head and he forgot he's a mechanic - um, I mean "certified master technician".

I would never take any car of mine to a place that advertises how fast they can change the oil. I usually pull the plug and go away for a while to do something else. Let it drain for a while. Those places only drain about 3/4 of the oil and pop the plug back in.

Also - That guy has the cleanest hands I've ever seen on a mechanic. Has he ever even touched a car?

 

Better be safe than sorry?? Where does that come from? Do you know people that followed manufacturer intervals and the motors died? People have been brain washed by the 3k crap. Some of you act that if you dont follow the 3k schedule or "your" schedule the motor wont make it to 100k with no knowledge or basis to back it up. (and im not singling you out)


Agree.

 

I think the guy in the video is dead wrong.

But, I don't trust manufacturer's intervals either. I think the marketing people push the interval to something that will work without causing a catastrophic failure but it may not be the best if you plan on keeping the car for 300,000 miles.