Kaizen 6000K warmup...Here's what they look like.
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Kaizen 6000K warmup...Here's what they look like.
Here's for anyone who's looking into ordering new bulbs and are wondering about what 6000k looks like. Just a warmup video of the Kaizen bulbs I ordered to replace my burned out stock ones. ...bulbs have been used for about 5 hours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y481O7L8DJw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y481O7L8DJw
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Yeah I noticed it was a little greenish in the video....Its really not that bad. It's a respectable blue.
The song is called "Shine" by Talla2xlc....had to put it in because I removed the background noises and it was kinda boring all quiet lol.
The song is called "Shine" by Talla2xlc....had to put it in because I removed the background noises and it was kinda boring all quiet lol.
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Stock bulb color is 4300K= kelvin lighting color scale
5000K are a bit more blue than stock- with plenty of white light in front of the car for seeing potholes
6000k are more blue- losing some white directly in front of the car in exchange for better distance viewing of road lines and signs- anything with reflecto material in the paint lites up!! the white stripes on semi trailers glow blue~
IMO- 5000 for most drivers, 6000 if you have poor night vision and some extra help seeing certain things at a greater distance is helpful
Go to Lowes hardware store and check the flourescent lighting display, they have pics of room illuminated with different color 3000 kitchen, 4000 garage 5000 daylight effect -etc
They give a realistic view of what you can expect
Normal camera pics - the auto white balance throws off the color of the bulbs
NOTE: New bulbs require about 100 hours of run tim to burn in and stabilize color- and they get brighter during that period too.
Drive with them on all the time to get some hours on.
5000K are a bit more blue than stock- with plenty of white light in front of the car for seeing potholes
6000k are more blue- losing some white directly in front of the car in exchange for better distance viewing of road lines and signs- anything with reflecto material in the paint lites up!! the white stripes on semi trailers glow blue~
IMO- 5000 for most drivers, 6000 if you have poor night vision and some extra help seeing certain things at a greater distance is helpful
Go to Lowes hardware store and check the flourescent lighting display, they have pics of room illuminated with different color 3000 kitchen, 4000 garage 5000 daylight effect -etc
They give a realistic view of what you can expect
Normal camera pics - the auto white balance throws off the color of the bulbs
NOTE: New bulbs require about 100 hours of run tim to burn in and stabilize color- and they get brighter during that period too.
Drive with them on all the time to get some hours on.
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Stock bulb color is 4300K= kelvin lighting color scale
5000K are a bit more blue than stock- with plenty of white light in front of the car for seeing potholes
6000k are more blue- losing some white directly in front of the car in exchange for better distance viewing of road lines and signs- anything with reflecto material in the paint lites up!! the white stripes on semi trailers glow blue~
IMO- 5000 for most drivers, 6000 if you have poor night vision and some extra help seeing certain things at a greater distance is helpful
Go to Lowes hardware store and check the flourescent lighting display, they have pics of room illuminated with different color 3000 kitchen, 4000 garage 5000 daylight effect -etc
They give a realistic view of what you can expect
Normal camera pics - the auto white balance throws off the color of the bulbs
NOTE: New bulbs require about 100 hours of run tim to burn in and stabilize color- and they get brighter during that period too.
Drive with them on all the time to get some hours on.
5000K are a bit more blue than stock- with plenty of white light in front of the car for seeing potholes
6000k are more blue- losing some white directly in front of the car in exchange for better distance viewing of road lines and signs- anything with reflecto material in the paint lites up!! the white stripes on semi trailers glow blue~
IMO- 5000 for most drivers, 6000 if you have poor night vision and some extra help seeing certain things at a greater distance is helpful
Go to Lowes hardware store and check the flourescent lighting display, they have pics of room illuminated with different color 3000 kitchen, 4000 garage 5000 daylight effect -etc
They give a realistic view of what you can expect
Normal camera pics - the auto white balance throws off the color of the bulbs
NOTE: New bulbs require about 100 hours of run tim to burn in and stabilize color- and they get brighter during that period too.
Drive with them on all the time to get some hours on.
I'm still young, my vision is still good so I don't notice the decrease in visibility at night because it's still way better than regular Halogens. I was driving my dad's work Chevy van in the rain last night and that thing had flashlights with low battery for headlights lmao.I still drive with them on during the day to burn em in. I'm just glad my lights match now, I never used to turn em on whenmy old ones were getting pink eye in one headlight.
I wanted to get 4300K but the lowest Excelerate has is 5000K
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how do i get my headlights to play music light that? do i need to upgrade to 6000k?
lol jk, but those are nice headlights, if i had them i'd just be turning them off and on. the white to blue transition looks really cool
lol jk, but those are nice headlights, if i had them i'd just be turning them off and on. the white to blue transition looks really cool
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Whats wrong with the stock 4300 that your looking for an alternative? The K is simply color. Changing to a different K wont make things brighter. If your bulbs are still original it probably wouldnt hurt to change them I wouldnt go any higher than the 5k kaixen bulb.
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you really get what you pay for with these type bulbs
Kaixen are 109 per pair from Excellerate
30 buck specials I would not expect the base sealing to be great, or expect them to last very long-- IMO
HID systems are WAY different than normal halogen bulb systems
Kaixen are 109 per pair from Excellerate
30 buck specials I would not expect the base sealing to be great, or expect them to last very long-- IMO
HID systems are WAY different than normal halogen bulb systems
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I'd go with Kaixen in a heartbeat if it weren't for the fact that I'm not too sure if I like the 5000K. We'll see, I have plenty of other stuff on my car to spend money on for the time being.
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Bulb is D2R...the one to get off Excelerate are those D2C bulbs.
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But with anything higher than 4300K, you start to trade performance for color. Personally I want maximum usable light on the road in front of me so I'm sticking with 4300K bulbs.
See this link for a nice explanation of HID bulbs and Kelvin ratings:
http://intellexual.net/hid.html
And here's an excerpt:
There are many companies and private merchants out there that will advertise 7000K, 8000K, and even 12000K HID kits. Most of these vendors lurk around on ebay, online car forums, websites, and ricer accessory shops. 100% of the people that buy these kits do so because they are uninformed, uneducated, or misguided in the field of lighting, and will buy these junk kits thinking three things: that these bulbs are brighter, that these bulbs should cost more money, and/or that they will perform better. All three statements are completely false. Perhaps this misconception and frenzy for purple lights originates from BMW and Audi's infamous Hella projector HIDs.
So allow me to explain the real truth of the matter... Philips is the number one manufacturer of HID bulbs. The Philips OEM D2S bulb is rated at 4100K at 12.8 volts and produces 3200 lumens of light. The Philips Ultinon D2S is 5800K at 12.8 volts and produces 2400 lumens of light. As you can see, with all other factors remaining constant, the brightness of an HID bulb declines the higher up the color index you go. Vision, a Korean bulb manufacturer, makes an 8000K bulb, which they used to advertise on Acura-Forums as 2000 lumens bright. This is barely a marked improvement over halogens, and will produce more glare and eye fatigue than it is beneficial. 4100K has been proven through tireless independent research by the Germans, Japanese, and Americans to be the most functional, truest white and thus the brightest possible color temperature (ceteris paribus).
Every car manufacturer in the world (including BMW and Audi) uses none other than a standard 4100K gas-discharge bulb. No exceptions. The reason being is that 4100K is daylight white in color and produces the same color visible light as direct sunlight. This is least fatiguing functional color on the eyes and produces the most comfortable contrast on the road.
So allow me to explain the real truth of the matter... Philips is the number one manufacturer of HID bulbs. The Philips OEM D2S bulb is rated at 4100K at 12.8 volts and produces 3200 lumens of light. The Philips Ultinon D2S is 5800K at 12.8 volts and produces 2400 lumens of light. As you can see, with all other factors remaining constant, the brightness of an HID bulb declines the higher up the color index you go. Vision, a Korean bulb manufacturer, makes an 8000K bulb, which they used to advertise on Acura-Forums as 2000 lumens bright. This is barely a marked improvement over halogens, and will produce more glare and eye fatigue than it is beneficial. 4100K has been proven through tireless independent research by the Germans, Japanese, and Americans to be the most functional, truest white and thus the brightest possible color temperature (ceteris paribus).
Every car manufacturer in the world (including BMW and Audi) uses none other than a standard 4100K gas-discharge bulb. No exceptions. The reason being is that 4100K is daylight white in color and produces the same color visible light as direct sunlight. This is least fatiguing functional color on the eyes and produces the most comfortable contrast on the road.
And you can find good deals on 4300K bulbs. I bought a brand new pair of Philips 4300K bulbs from an established eBay seller for less than $70 shipped. That's less than $35 a bulb.
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Won't the 5000K end up being around 5500 or so after the burn in period? I was thinking of 6000K or 6500K but with 19s, I need to see potholes!! I think the 5000K would be better than my philips 4300Ks..but not sure and looking for opinions..my 3000K HID fogs are pretty bright, but do not light up the road like my 4300K HID fog bulbs I had in a while back. The 3000K yellows do an excellent job in the rain and fog though! Fall is approaching here in ATL and the rain and fog will be pretty consistent
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Thanks Bob, I know that technically 4300K is more useable light, but I heard from several members the 6000K Kaixens put out more light or appears more brighter than the stock Philips OEM bulb. The Philips D2R bulb has the anti-glare ceramic strip on the bulb and the D2C Kaixens do not. So, I'm wondering if a 5000K Kaixen with no glare strip would actually allow more light or appear brighter than the 4300K Philips bulb with ceramic strip
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Thanks Bob, I know that technically 4300K is more useable light, but I heard from several members the 6000K Kaixens put out more light or appears more brighter than the stock Philips OEM bulb. The Philips D2R bulb has the anti-glare ceramic strip on the bulb and the D2C Kaixens do not. So, I'm wondering if a 5000K Kaixen with no glare strip would actually allow more light or appear brighter than the 4300K Philips bulb with ceramic strip
But the increased glare that is associated with higher Kelvin bulbs may be coming into play. And the glare might be interpreted as brightness.
The glare effect can also explain why road signs off to the side can be lit up better with higher Kelvin bulbs. Here's another except from the discussion I linked above:
Blue light has what we call a very high diffuse density, which causes it to radiate outwards as opposed to forwards. What results is a wide glow of light outside the beam pattern that is blinding to motorists you share the road with. A blue HID bulb will produce color bleed around the headlight, around the objects it lights up, outside of the beam pattern, and around the cut off line. This is effect is known as "glare"....
In any case, best of luck with whatever you buy.
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i wouldnt go higher than 6000k imo... however with the windshield tint i am not going above 4300k as any less light output and ill have a visibility problem... i have the hid fogs though at 4300k as well so id have to pay double the price to upgrade both sets to match anyway
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Thanks for the video.
As was noted, kelvin (color) does not mean more lumen (light output). The stock 4300k are technically the brightest bulbs. The more kelvin the less lumen. On 5000-6000k and even 6500k you won't notice any less light output. In fact, some have noted light output and vision has gotten better. That can be b/c the light is whiter it appears brighter to the naked eye. 8500k which is extreme blue may have a slight loss of light output but again it's hard to notice. KAIXEN does a very good job of manufacturing these bulbs and their technology is far advanced over other products we have dealt with.
If anyone needs a set or more info you can find it in this link:
https://acurazine.com/forums/sponsored-sales-group-buys-10/kaixen-hid-replacement-d2c-bulbs-new-price-394988/
As was noted, kelvin (color) does not mean more lumen (light output). The stock 4300k are technically the brightest bulbs. The more kelvin the less lumen. On 5000-6000k and even 6500k you won't notice any less light output. In fact, some have noted light output and vision has gotten better. That can be b/c the light is whiter it appears brighter to the naked eye. 8500k which is extreme blue may have a slight loss of light output but again it's hard to notice. KAIXEN does a very good job of manufacturing these bulbs and their technology is far advanced over other products we have dealt with.
If anyone needs a set or more info you can find it in this link:
https://acurazine.com/forums/sponsored-sales-group-buys-10/kaixen-hid-replacement-d2c-bulbs-new-price-394988/
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