i would be happy with my times, but, they got worse and worse, when i thought i could do better and better.. heres the story.

first run.. this is the first time i was ever even at the track, so i didnt know exactly what i was doing.. raced with traction control on, sprayed out of the whole, only spun a little and finished 14.600 @ 92.16mph.. i knew i could of done better..

2nd run... turned the traction control off, spun like crazy,, spun all of first, car shifted at 6 grand still spinning, finally caught and finished with14.885 @ 97.55mph.. SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW I DID THE 1/4 SLOWER BUT FINISHED AT A FASTER SPEED, AND HOW TO FIX IT!!!

3rd run.. an older body style tl pulled up next to me, and asked if i wanted to race for 20 bucks, he told me he only had intake and headers, i told him we could race for free. this time i went in manual mode,, not a good idea. i ran a 14.931 @ 95.89 mph... he ran a 14.295 @ 98.69mph.. then he told me he was also spraying a 55 shot.. but i cant tell if hes lying... cause he had the old body tl, which is 215 horse, with intake and headers and a 55 shot. i have the 260 horse type s, with intake and a 55 shot.. and he ran better than my best time. so do headers really make that big of a difference? that would mine, if i got headers i would run like high 13's.. which means i could probably get headers, exhaust, spray a bigger shot, and run low 13's.

so all in all, it was a good fun night.. and i will be back again...

2003 silver tl type-s
air ride susspension
zex nitrous
panasonic motorized tv
jdm conversion
cleared headlights
aem pulleys
aem cold air
mdx injectors
4% limo tint all the way around
i always forget other stuff

 

though i have never tracked, here are some tips from many experiences as well as things ive heard from other racers.
a little spin is good, but more than a sec or two is too much.
you should use sportshift or manual it for best results.
and why would you spray from launch???
This is absolutely improper as nos is intended for the upper rpm's. no wonder why you are just sitting there, not smart at all.
the old body tl has 227 hp, not 215.
NEXT TIME, dont peel for more than 2 seconds, redline before shift, and dont spray till you are at least above 3k rpm. this should be the best way to get great times.
if you did it this way, you and the other tl would be mucher closer. and headers do make alot of difference, check around and you will see proof.
good luck and next time and thanks for posting specifs, good reference info.

 

one other thing, you have air ride suspension, can you explain this a bit more.

 

Actually the 99-03 regular TLs have 225 hp, not 227.

I also heard that you can get faster times by gateshifting (manually shifting the gates) or SS. Always turn off traction control. Also, don't spray at the beginning.

And yes headers do make a big difference. It gives you close to 30 hp.

 

SB-where are you in Florida? I travel the whole state constantly and have an 02 TL-S with headers, etc and no NOS...If you are spinning that bad, maybe your tires have been liquidated long ago. I've never been to the track, but my car seems abnormally quick and when I got the headers, it runs very strong spinning into second gear very hard with 18's on the car...The tires only have limited mileage so that may be a big problem with your launch or perhaps they are grossly overinflated...

 

hey superballs, next time... deflate ur tires to about 26psi... jsut the front ones. put the stick on D3 and floor the gas.... when u feel the car shift into second, hit the nos at around 3 or 4k rpm. what does everybody think of that? btw, what track did u go to? moroso? next time you go, let me know... maybe i can show up.

 

What do you mean by the "older body style" TL? Are you talking about pre-1999 TL's? Because if that's the case, the 3.2 only had 200 hp and the 2.5 had 176 hp.

 

Eeek.. when you go to the drag strip say "drag strip", not track.. when you say track, I think you've actually taken it to a real track like "Portland international Raceway".. Any ways.. dragging is boring... you want real utter excitement... something that gives you a natural high for a week.. take it to the next local chapter of the BWM clubs track day!


Anyone can drive a car in a strait line, but you can go around a track 50 times and not have it down just yet.

 

whoa...if a type-s with a 55 shot runs 14.6...what will my stock type-s run?...i always thought it would be around14.9

 

shoot..is nos expensive to add? hard to install?..bad for the engine?..if not..maybe i should get it..hmm what do you guys think?

 

Thats easy, you said it yourself, you spun your tires like crazy at the launch.

 

if you are purchasing the car.
Nos would be a quick way to kill it.
Not to mention the tranny problem that our car have.

There are some members here that have nos.
i think RED HOT TL. (or something like that) that have nos on his car. He also got into an accident recently. so i dunno if he's keeping a car or not.

Do a search on it!

 

Dunno about how a high compression engine would handle a shot of NO2 but the tranny probably would not like it.

 

i really dont use the nos that much at all. actually my bottle has been empty for the last like 3 months... and i dont spray that much compared to what other cars spray. so im sure our engine can handle it.. i paid about 600 for my kit installed, and i know you can do it even cheaper. what do you guys think i would run with headers? and has anyone found obx to be worse at all compared to comptech, cause 100, 200, 300 bucks, difference i would just go for the comptech, but its like a 1000 dollar difference. someone said i should deflait my tires, and i thought about it, i just didnt car that much, but they also mentioned my tires might be over in flaited, and ive heard people talk about how the tl comes stock with over inflaited tires, so what psi do you guys recomend i keep in the tires when im daily driving?
im gonna try to go back this wed... i know i can beat that 14.6 time so im gonna work on that, if anyone wants to meet up, let me know, even if your not running, its still fun.

 

the stock tire pressure u should have is 32psi... when u go to the track... deflate it to 26psi... just the front tires. i would love to try and meet up.. where do u go... moroso right? let me know when and at what time.

 

balls-str8--where is Moroso? I'd shoot down to S. Florida for a night of draggin'. I'm curious to see what mine will do.

 

Try this-

-Air the tires down a bit- 26psi or so. Go to Home Depot and get one of those $15 Cig lighter compressors, so you have air at the track.
-Use manual shifting, not SS. Note that you need to learn to shift correctly if you do this, as you run the risk of hitting the rev limiter, which is BAD, BAD with N2O flowing.
-When at the line, rev the engine slightly while holding the brake to flash the torque converter, so that it's already tight when you leave.
-No nitrous in 1st. This is a quick way to a broken trans, and if they see that N2O setup at the dealer- warranty VOID! Besides, the car is already traction limited in 1st anyway without it.
-No traction control. VSA does weird things to timing and fuel curves when cutting in, and it's a fast way to an ultra-lean condition with N2O on, which can burn a hole right through a piston.
-Don't spray until the shift into 2nd is complete. Hitting that while the RPM is still dropping from 1st to 2nd will destroy the clutch pack in short order. Then, spray for the rest of the run.

With a good hookup with minimal spin, a 97mph trap speed (an indication of HP) is good enough for 14.0, if you get it right.

Again, warranty will not cover power adders such as nitrous, so you need to play nice. Also note, that they technically don't have to do warranty work on cars that are raced, either, so keep that to yourself, if you require a trip to the dealer.

r10- I'd think there would be a track around J-ville. If not, there's Speed World east of Orlando, and one in Gainesville, as well.

I've run a 250shot (wet fogger system) in a 12.5:1 327ci motor I set up for a friend. You just have to know what you are doing, and it'll last. This one didn't last too long, due to a faulty rod that wouldn't stand up to the 8500rpm shift.

Todd

 

Those times are awful if you are running a NOS setup. Here are my time slips and my only mod is an AEM intake -

 

man, you sprayed and that was it..I've seen better times in stock TL-S's...don't know...but those guys that pulled those times were some real pros...I can't mess with them..they made a Accord v6 pull a 15.3 with just intake and exhaust...I was like.."no way!" but I guess it is all in the hands of the driver.

 

Damn Todd...250 shot with a 12.5:1!?!? :worship:
Well hey if it could handle it...tranny aside, say there was a turbo (or use the S/C that is avail.) kit for this motor, what kind of boost could it handle and still get close to 200k? I was under the impression that the F/I motors just did not last as long as an N/A