Sorry but I have to say its BS. I also have a friend who is a Honda tech. He worked for Acura also. He is a tranny expert and says that it is way blown out of proportion. He said the tranny has the same fail rate as the Accord and Oddesy. When you gather 4500 TL owners on one site you here every horror story, but think about the actual amount of tranny's replaced. 100% is wayyyyy off. He said he does not replace that many of them. Yes there is a problem with the 02-03 but he is so confident in the car that he works on for a living that he bought one himself(02 TL). I wish there was no talk about tranny's on this forum, because to tell you the truth I never heard about a wide spread problem until I joined. Dwelling on the aparent trouble in Honda's recent transmitions(5 speed mostly) is not going to help the problem at all. If it is gonna blow, its gonna blow. So I wish everyone would stop worrying and just enjoy the car you spent 30k on. How public was the trouble with Hyundai when they interduced thier line of cars. Nothing but a tranny nightmare it was. The TL would NOT be rated one of the safest reliable cars if there was that big of a problem. It would be more publisised. Like my friend said, way to blown out of proportion. If they are sooo bad, why are they still selling like hotcakes. Even with an anounced redesign next year. Most people do homework before spending 30 gees and still chose a TL. Buy the way my friend is not the only Honda/Acura tech that told me "stop worrying and just enjoy the car!"

Oh well go ahead and flame me now.