99 black tl

Many of u already know that there is a baby jag called the x-type coming out soon.Would any of u trade in your tl's for the X-type.Also let me know if u guys think that the X-TYPE is a good competitor to the BMW 3 series,mercedes c class and lexus IS 300.And will it take sales away from acura.

SLVR TL

Jags are totally in a different class than our TL's. Even if they start from mid $30K, it's still considerably more expensive than TL's. Besides, it's a Jag... it breaks down easy.



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Y2K SiLVeR TL, non-navi
SLVR TL Homepage

Let's do a SoCal TL meet soon!

Miles

I think i saw one today on the belt parkway. A old women was driving it, aehehaahe. Its small and sleek. Looks aggressive and cute at the same time, aeheaheahae Can't compare since its 2 door vs our TL 4dr.

SinnedTL

Your obviously smoking something since the X-Type is a four door sport sedan competitor for the Audi A4 series and the BMW 3-series...

SL1200MK4

Well, won't say anything without actually test drive one. It share parts with Ford, but think the interior is still nicer. Similar amount of power, a bit faster with the manual tranny... AWD...

I still like the bimmer more becuase it's a driver's car. The Jag makes a better sedan...

VTEC

It SU#K now..That is gonna to breaks down easy.
I will pick Bimmer over Jags(over price Ford) in any days..

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2000 3.2TL Firepepper red w/o nav
stock spoiler
Comptech springs
Custom front Grill
Bosch 4+ platinum spark plug
25% Tint/Mud guards/
acura-tl.com sticker at front windshield

Pawel

I was thinking about looking into the possibility of getting the X type, but it's AWD and doesn't have AC vents in back....

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2000 TL Pearl White w\o nav
1991 Volvo 940 Turbo Traded

"Just Shut Up and Enjoy the Ride"

Tat1983

Jag X-type = New style upgraded Ford Escort

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2000 Acura 3.2 TL Teffeta white w/o nav., 25% tint
factory body kit w/ spoiler
18x7.5 Axis se7en +42offset, 215/40ZR-18 Pirelli P7000, Levoc racing pedal, Momo combat sliver shift knob
Piaa 1100xx fogs, Escort Solo
Comptech springs & sway bar
...Comptech Exhaust & Type-S tail coming soon...

MafiosoTL

not only all that but jags have no resale value, look at the type S, it sells for 60 out the door, but if you look up a used car car, people are sellin them for 30g's and its only been 1-2 years

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'99 Acura 3.2TL Satin Silver
35% Tint All-Around
Factory Underbody Kit
Wings West Spoiler
Chrome CL-S rims
Comptech Springs
Video In My Navi Kit w/Sony VCR and PS2
12" Solobaric Powered By a 2400 PPI Amp

Inspire32V

There's no point bashing the X-type if you don't know what you're talking about. It's based on the new Ford Mondeo in the UK which is a well respected technical achievement amongst automotive experts and enthusiasts. Although I probably would never buy this car, I've read that it's pretty fast 6.3 sec 0-60 and handles pretty well with stock 17" rims - just the long-term reliability might be an issue.



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hunter001

As the above post stated, the Jag X-type is based on a slightly shortened form of the Ford Mondeo (the platform on which the currently discontinued Ford Contour was based on). I was in the UK last week, and had a chance to study the cars there..... the Mondeo looks lovely and competes there with the Volkswagen Passat.

They introduced AWD to the X-type to differentiate between it and the FWD Mondeo....

Also, the Honda Accords available in the UK are shaped totally differently from the US version and look very good (Has got an Audi A4 like look to it from the back). I briefy drove an Accord Type-R while in the UK.....tough to know that it is a FWD car....out of this world handling..

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2000 Naples Gold 3.2TL/Navi - Factory Stock but with up-graded tires

daverman

http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caran...aguarxtype.xml

DougTL-S

Hmm, I see 1980 Jags selling for 8k or so, thats more then I would pay for an old Bimmer or something. There's something about Jags that make you want to tint it up and put some bling rims on it and roll around big pimpin'. They weren't very reliable in the past I know but I believe Ford has much improved on that. I own a Ford Taurus so I'm a little biased but I can say this, I've hit another car and f-cked it up pretty bad without a dent on my car, and I've spun my car off a highway ramp into a ditch without a dent on my car, and I've had no major repair problems with my car... 1998 Ford Taurus with 100,000 miles(used as a daily driver). Oh and I push my car to it's limit, flooring it at every stop light and taking every turn as fast as possible, I used to hate ford(Fix Or Repair Daily) mostly for the horror stories you hear about Rustangs, but I think mine has held up pretty well...

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VTEC

FORD SU#K-ACURA RULES

hunter001

I think in things like cars, it is always better to keep an open mind. True, most of the cars built by Ford, certainly has a lot of room for improvement. I would think some of the Acuras/Hondas also have a lot of things they can improve upon - part leather, bowling ball trim etc.

just my 2c



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2000 Naples Gold 3.2TL/Navi - Factory Stock but with up-graded tires

Gomez

http://www.acura-tl.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008221.html

Note in the JD Power list that a Jaguar is only one step below the TL in initial problems, and a second Jag places 11th out of all cars. I was really surprised.

While Ford owning Jaguar takes some of the mystique and panache out of the brand for some, the new ownership has done well for quality. Jaguars are still not quite Lexus or Acura, but they're gaining ground quickly.


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'01 White Diamond Pearl 3.2TL
-Wing, tint, wood and Whistler

Guest

I called the dealer for an X-type, and my i'm going to be called in later in July to take one for us to look at it. I want my father to get this car since he has always liked the XJ6. (He's not a big fan of cars that are fast, one thing I don't like about him). (If you ask give me a XKR, and i'd be happy. ) The car seems to be a great deal for the price, and what i love about it is the luxury/sporty/5speed aspect of it. If i wanted to buy a car, i would consider it if i couldn't afford the awsome S 4.0. (Or 540 6 speed.) Well, if you want to consider this car, just wait for it and try it out. There is no reason to judge ford as being a bad company. (I know Jaguar isn't #1 for reliability either, but I have heard Jaguar's quality has increased greatly since ford got involved.) If you ask me, its a gorgeous car, i just fear its gonna turn out like IS300. (I tought it was a gorgeous car, then I went for a test drive, but i couldn't drive it since i'm <u>too</u> tall/big.)

sboje

Checked one out tonight. Sat in it, moved seats around etc.
It seemed like an upscale Ford to me. I wasn't very impressed. I think the styling is bla too. What is it with the latest trends of producing something that looked like it melted in the sun? What happened to clean lines and edges?

I think some of this is a case of Ford trying to make sure the X type won't possibly look as good or better than their other Jag cars. I respect BMW, because they didn't make the 3 series look like shit in an effort to make the 5 series look better (they do dumb down the smaller engine models within a series though). Maybe that is why they are the class leader. Anyway, even Honda does this. The front end of the Accord looks WORSE than older models... presumably so they can make the TL look more distinguished. Had they built the TL from the ground up, they would have had a better TL, and a better Accord, and they'd probably both have improved sales (although they aren't really hurting in that respect... maybe its why they don't bother). I thought the Legend was, and still is, a better looking, more unique car for its time than the TL. To Honda's credit, they aren't charging $15,000 more than a loaded Accord, so I guess it is fair. Look at that Infiniti sport ute (QX4). That is nothing more than a glorified pathfinder.

Anyway, I won't be buying a $40,000 Ford Mondeo this fall. I hope they fail miserably. That's what you deserve when you don't try to build the best car in the class. At least Mercedes gave it an honest effort. They'll sell like hotcakes for the first 6 months, then it will suffer the fate of the Lexus IS300 (probably worse actually).