bbb

Guys, please console me. Me and my TL were just torched by a Ford pick-up truck. It was an SVT “Lightning” How can this happen; I mean he was pulling away from me at 115—I didn’t bother to pursue because I couldn’t catch him. He also beat me off the line and that very rarely happens. When he brushed me his Ford made this nice wizzing noise not a crude rumble at all. Is that SVT souped up or what?

NSXNEXT

iTrader: (2)

You're kidding, right?

"The 2001 SVT F-150 Lighting can do 0-60 mph in 5.8 seconds and finish the quarter-mile at 100 mph in 13.9 seconds. And we can assure you, those 13.9 seconds go by very fast indeed."

Not even close.

Horsepower 380 hp @ 4,750 rpm
Torque 450 lb.-ft. @ 3,250 rpm

Longitudinally mounted, single overhead cam, 90-degree Triton™ V-8 supercharged/intercooled, cast iron block, aluminum-alloy heads, forged steel crankshaft.


Oh and it's rear-wheel drive.

benzo555

yeah u got smoked allright. Its a SVT dont mess with them lightnings...

agean

no consoling here bro, those things are fast as $hit!

bigman

Dont be upset, those Lightenings get the best of most road cars anyway.

sweetride01

Yea, and i wouldn't want to mess with an F-350 from a stop. You can get those things with 560 Ib-Ft of torque, and 325 hp.

patrick

I wonder if the results would have been different if the TL had headers/intake/NOS....

Comet2404

Please dont tell me a Ford F-350 can beat me??? I have this thing with trucks that I just HATE them!!! I never want to get beat by a truck - now the Lightning I have a small ounce of respect for, and wouldn't try to race one just because I know how fast they are. but a F-350???? Grrrrr....

Pauli

Don't worry about it. Those SVTs are fire-breathing monsters. It's basically an SVT Mustang engine in a truck -- what a waste!

sweetride01

At least pick-ups are underrated. I is a sad thing that they can beat us. Personally i think that they should be banned if they are too fast- they weigh so much so they are too dangerous... plus pick-up drivers are some of the biggest a-holes on the face of the earth (no offense to anyone on this forum who drives a pick-up, please).

Darkshear

iTrader: (1)

yah i got roasted by one of thoes a few times... i knew he would win, i just wanted to see by how much... its pretty scary eheheheh....

blk_tl

I wont even try to go against one of those...

bbb

Yeah, I learned my lesson. I won't do that again. I went to Ford's web site and read the specs...I had no idea a pick up had that kind of stuff under the hood. And I thought another Pick-Up to burn off the line-ouch!

lndshrk

Trust me on this one...I'm not here to start sh1t or anything, but really...a lightning? Seriously, think about it, if you wanted a race car, why did you buy a TL? I'm all about mods and sh1t, but you also have to know your car's limits. Nitrous, headers etc. and all the bolt-ons will not generally compete with blown/turboed engines on the road. I say "on the road" because track times will of course be closer, but you won't get to see someone pull on you from 115 at a track. I have a 98 Cobra (SVT for those that don't know with a vortech s-trim s/c, and a few other goodies. Best track time was 12.47 @119 on slicks...but on the road, not too many cars will pull on it.

Sorry about the loss there...but just remember, there's a hell of a lot of cars out there faster, mostly stock, than the TL...mods or no mods.

AegeanTypeS

Wait til the new Lightning comes out...turning my TL in to the leasing company and picking up my new 500 hp Lightning the same day!!!

AegeanTypeS

You say you "HATE" trucks.

How can you hate these?

# 1

2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10
Specs:
General Information
Price: $--,---
Miles Per Gallon: --/-- mpg
Curb Weight: 5000 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual

Engine
Type: V10
Displacement: 8300 cc
Horsepower: 500 bhp @ 5600 rpm
Torque: 525 lb-ft @ 4200 rpm
Redline: 6000 rpm

Performance
0-60 mph: 5.2 sec
0-100 mph: 11.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 13.8 sec @ 106 mph
Skidpad: .--g
Top Speed: 150 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: --- ft
Slalom Speed: --.- mph

AegeanTypeS

# 2

2002 Chevrolet Silverado SST Concept

Specs:
General Information
Price: Concept Car
Miles Per Gallon: --/-- mpg
Curb Weight: ---- lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual

Engine
Type: V8
Displacement: 6600 cc
Horsepower: 480 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 475 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
Redline: ---- rpm

Performance
0-60 mph: -.- sec
0-100 mph: --.- sec
Quarter Mile: --.- sec @ --- mph
Skidpad: .--g
Top Speed: --- mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: --- ft
Slalom Speed: --.- mph

AegeanTypeS

Comet2404

:wow: :wow: That new lightning is WICKED!! LOLOL.... Now as far as the other ones, I still dont like them, and I wouldn't trade my TL in for any of them, no matter how much they could beat me by! But if I was going to get a truck, it would in fact be the lightning!!!

Petrie1997

yep. my friend got whooped by a lightning in his highly modded rx-7 3rd gen. to this day, he still denies the incident took place!

peter.

mangoboy

Pick-up drivers really are the biggest a-holes on the road. Last week I was on the freeway with my window rolled down and a ****ty ram pulled up beside me and the passenger blew an aerosol can horn into my ear. At the time I exited but I wish I had followed and called the cops.

F**king A-holes! :chainsaw:

Raheel

Why isn't there any import trucks?

Nissan is just starting to build one and Toyota has the Tundra..

Does Honda Have one?

gobluetwo

Nissan and Toyota have been building pickup trucks for a long time.

the pickup truck Marty (Michael J. Fox) coveted in Back to the Future (1985) was a Toyota, who started selling compact pickups in the US in 1964.

Nissan (Datsun) was the first automaker to sell a compact pickup in the US... in 1958...

Mazda has sold pickups in the US since 1986.

Japanese auto makers have just recently started making FULL-size pickups...

AegeanTypeS

Honda has a full size in the works, it maybe powered by a version of GM's pushrod small block V8 since Honda is supplying GM with 4-cyl engines for some of their lower line autos.

BigNard

Yo, that Dodge is the truth! Granted you only get about 3 miles to the gallon, but who cares with 500 ponies. I always knew the lightning was a bad boy, but did you guys ever think that there would be this many production trucks that could not only beat, but whoop the TL?

lilirish

you actually thought u had a chance against a lightning. they will beat most cars on the road

Comet2404

Yeah, but still... will an F-350 beat my TL??? I hope to hell not!

stiletto

For starters...
#one is a Ram.
# two is a Chevy.

They are both models of extreme ineficiency with spotty manufacturing track records.

Ryan Hubbard

I worked on the design of the Lightning powertrain when I worked for Roush Industries in Detroit. They did everything right from scratch on that engine. It is even assembled on a seperate assembly line at the engine factory. And to correct someone it is not a cobra engine stuffed in a truck. Actually the 03 Cobra engine was based on the lightning design. But Lightning are also rated conservatively due to the Cobra problem in 99. I would say that the Lightning is closer to 400HP.

As far as getting beat by a F350 or 3500HD, just watch out for the diesel versions. I have a 2003 2500HD with the Duramax and it gets up and moves for it being a crew cab truck. I have never really raced anyone in it but I know it is quick. Of course I have second truck that I have not lost a race in yet but I have quite a few draws.

Ryan Hubbard
2003 Acura 3.2TL
2003 Chevrolet 2500HD Duramax
1971 Chevrolet C20 with 550HP

unisold

you will never get beaten by a stock diesel f250/f350 or dodge's hemi truck or chevy duramax... ever, not even in 6th gen 200hp v6 accords...

http://www.trucktrend.com/roadtests/.../112_0210_ram/

"Dodge says the 4x2 Hemi will do the 0-60-mph dash in 8.3 sec, which puts it in a dead heat against a GMC Sierra HD with the monster 8100 Vortec V-8."

pull up some 0-60 times and find out for your self...


over & out!

Ken1997TL

Honda is working on a "truck". It will be based on the Pilot and coming out in Model year 2005. It won't have a body on frame design and instead will be Unibody.

sweetride01

Remember though, the stock F-350 doesn't have the optional engine w/560Ib-Ft of torque. Maybe you have to get the dually though to get that engine.

disgookonfiya

i thought all f-350's were duallies?

unisold

sweetride: i put "diesel" before the model#... hence optional 560lb-ft of torque..

disgookonfiya: nope..

Ryan Hubbard

Stock, a diesel truck would not beat a 3.2TL and I did not say that my diesel truck would beat a TL. But I do know of a couple diesel trucks that can pull off 13 sec 1/4 miles. The modifications are endless for the trucks. Also you can get propane enrichment which is just like nitrous for a diesel. All of this is very easy to conceal. Plus, I know from my experience, that when you can preload your turbo at a light you can get the jump on a lot of people in a street race.

Ryan Hubbard

Hokie D

A dragstrip F-350 maybe, but your average diesel truck weighs megatons and will not pull on a TL. My BS meter is around here somewhere... Let's see, I think I lent it to those guys arguing a 1.8T Jetta would beat our TL-S's.