how much am i supposed to feel the vtec kicking in?
#82
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Im going to clarify this for every one. This is factory specs for the car and when it engages.
3800 RPM's for the 99 TL
4400 RPM's for the TL
4800 RPM's for the TL Type S
3800 RPM's for the 99 TL
4400 RPM's for the TL
4800 RPM's for the TL Type S
#85
type S (and Plain) can simply install a lightweight crank pulley- ![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
knock 8 pounds off a 10 pound object on the end of the crank and the engine will rev substanially faster---
getting you to vtec rpm quicker
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knock 8 pounds off a 10 pound object on the end of the crank and the engine will rev substanially faster---
getting you to vtec rpm quicker
#86
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No, thats not the way vtec works. Its not a magical device that you can turn on and make more power. Many in the past have tried tuning it to come on earlier most with negative results. Where honda has it is pretty much optimal.
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but in the back of my mind i kept saying cops, cops and cops. i got to go to traffic court for pointless tickets. now is not the time to get anymore
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so i let him win and he slowed down and i slowed down and i just waved it off and congratulated him because
a) mines is stock to keep up with him (so it pissed him off to make him think mines was modded)
b) vtec is what provoked him
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regardless it was funny how as soon as we floored it my TL went ahead because of vtec supposedly
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i laughed and wave when he slowed down and told him to check his ride for that burning smell and he looked and said you got any mods i said "no all stock, its just the power of acura/honda running through this car" and he laughed.
he had temporary tags too, so it was him showing off his new ride. i wish i had a 3rd TL!
#98
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#99
OP: have you seafoamed the engine oil- by adding 1/2 can and driving with use of vtec?
I know gen3 has a problem with gumming and sticking of the sliders, so keeping the passageways clean is really important
IMO- install new oil filter, drive a week of 100-200 miles- then change oil and filter WHEN warm or the sludge doesnt drain out as well
Now its clean inside and vtec ~may~ operate!!
It runs on oil pressure to move things and make it all happen, plus it uses the changes in oil pressure when you bang the throttle and gets vtec ready
See diagrams of what vtec is and does- they are online and some on zine
Possible yours is not working right for reasons of sludge, certainly worth a shot and seafoam will help remove egr stuff you cant reach, frees up glazed and sticking piston rings for better compression and oil sealing
I know gen3 has a problem with gumming and sticking of the sliders, so keeping the passageways clean is really important
IMO- install new oil filter, drive a week of 100-200 miles- then change oil and filter WHEN warm or the sludge doesnt drain out as well
Now its clean inside and vtec ~may~ operate!!
It runs on oil pressure to move things and make it all happen, plus it uses the changes in oil pressure when you bang the throttle and gets vtec ready
See diagrams of what vtec is and does- they are online and some on zine
Possible yours is not working right for reasons of sludge, certainly worth a shot and seafoam will help remove egr stuff you cant reach, frees up glazed and sticking piston rings for better compression and oil sealing
#100
Burning Brakes
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I have done the seafoam in oil thing but not the new oil filter and drive technique (just 15 minutes while still hitting vtec). your prior posts indicate that i should've gone for 30+ minutes, so the next time i guess i'll try either that or the new oil filter and drive technique (depends on availability of friend with jackstands). it's a bit harder to test now because the roads are slick and i don't want to break traction and cause a crash, will wait a few days for it to warm up.
i may also throw on a k&n filter and see if that makes the vtec hit more noticeable...what do you think?
i may also throw on a k&n filter and see if that makes the vtec hit more noticeable...what do you think?
#101
if you removed the intake resonator box then a K&N will make noise when you hit vtec- they are a great investment
per seafoam site- you can install a fresh filter and add 1/2 can seafoam, drive up to 500 miles/30 days while checking the dipstick daily for sludge buildup,
change oil and filter when Warm when you can tell its ready~
For a ziner- a few hundred miles should do an excellent job
must use vtec to make oil flow thru its system and clean the sludge that is always growing in the oil passages
per seafoam site- you can install a fresh filter and add 1/2 can seafoam, drive up to 500 miles/30 days while checking the dipstick daily for sludge buildup,
change oil and filter when Warm when you can tell its ready~
For a ziner- a few hundred miles should do an excellent job
must use vtec to make oil flow thru its system and clean the sludge that is always growing in the oil passages
#102
you can pretty well reach the oil filter from the passenger side wheel well, dont need jackstands-
ramps make it easier~
ramps make it easier~
#103
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well this shall be fun to tell you guys... got a friend who builds custom maps for the JB chips for BMWs and he was willing to build a custom ECU flash to where we can fine tune our VTEC levels and fuel intake and all... far better than anything on market.... for a small fee tho.... $1500... hahaha still thinkin if its worth it before i get anything such as S/C and 6 speed swap...
what do you guys think?
what do you guys think?
#104
spend the money on track days- driver schools before you add loads of power to a FWD car, or a rwd car~
Otherwise they end up wrapped in a tree at some point
Otherwise they end up wrapped in a tree at some point
#105
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well this shall be fun to tell you guys... got a friend who builds custom maps for the JB chips for BMWs and he was willing to build a custom ECU flash to where we can fine tune our VTEC levels and fuel intake and all... far better than anything on market.... for a small fee tho.... $1500... hahaha still thinkin if its worth it before i get anything such as S/C and 6 speed swap...
what do you guys think?
what do you guys think?
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#106
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well this shall be fun to tell you guys... got a friend who builds custom maps for the JB chips for BMWs and he was willing to build a custom ECU flash to where we can fine tune our VTEC levels and fuel intake and all... far better than anything on market.... for a small fee tho.... $1500... hahaha still thinkin if its worth it before i get anything such as S/C and 6 speed swap...
what do you guys think?
what do you guys think?
#107
Burning Brakes
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if you removed the intake resonator box then a K&N will make noise when you hit vtec- they are a great investment
per seafoam site- you can install a fresh filter and add 1/2 can seafoam, drive up to 500 miles/30 days while checking the dipstick daily for sludge buildup,
change oil and filter when Warm when you can tell its ready~
For a ziner- a few hundred miles should do an excellent job
must use vtec to make oil flow thru its system and clean the sludge that is always growing in the oil passages
per seafoam site- you can install a fresh filter and add 1/2 can seafoam, drive up to 500 miles/30 days while checking the dipstick daily for sludge buildup,
change oil and filter when Warm when you can tell its ready~
For a ziner- a few hundred miles should do an excellent job
must use vtec to make oil flow thru its system and clean the sludge that is always growing in the oil passages
and would i be able to hear/feel a difference with just the k&n filter?
#108
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i haven't removed the intake resonator, it's cold and i want to retain the quietness of the car when idling, cruising on the highway, etc. only if i'm pushing it do i want to hear a difference in sound--how much difference does the resonator removal make in "conservative" driving? let's say below 3000rpm or below the 3800rpm vtec engagement point in my 99
and would i be able to hear/feel a difference with just the k&n filter?
and would i be able to hear/feel a difference with just the k&n filter?
just remove it. you only hear the difference at WOT. it sounds stock at highway cruise and well pretty much anything except WOT. Simply putting in a K&N filter will not result in a significant noise increase. you will most likely not hear any difference at all. I have a K&N drop-in filter in my parents 01 Toyota Sienna for about 7 years now. IMO it was a waste of $45. you dont feel much difference in performance and theres no difference in sound. if you want performance/sound get a SRI/CAI.
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i haven't removed the intake resonator, it's cold and i want to retain the quietness of the car when idling, cruising on the highway, etc. only if i'm pushing it do i want to hear a difference in sound--how much difference does the resonator removal make in "conservative" driving? let's say below 3000rpm or below the 3800rpm vtec engagement point in my 99
and would i be able to hear/feel a difference with just the k&n filter?
and would i be able to hear/feel a difference with just the k&n filter?
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