gainful

anybody has an idea?

phipark

it doesn't

shawn744

it's supposed to get lube around the tranny better.....yeah right....acura trannies suck....(sorry i'm just really pissed off)...

CJITTY

It will redirect trans fluid oil to the 2nd gear I believe where it's lacking oil distribution. My tranny seems to run better since I took it in to get the recall work done. 30K miles on the tranny, no issues...yet (fingers crossed)

Edward'TLS

It doesn't. All it does is to patch up the design defect of inadequet oil lubrication for the 2nd gear.

fsttyms1

exactly. all it does is lube the 2nd gear shaft which has a design flaw where it doesnt get enough lubrication, causing it to over heat that part. but the problem which we all have isnt effected by the oil jet kit. it is a problem all by itself that honda is doing nothing to remedy

fast-tl

...which prolongs the life of the tranny.

fsttyms1

but isnt the problem that we all have with the failures. all/most of us have had the other problem which isnt solved by the jet kit

fast-tl

How many have gone bad after the oil jet fix, for a different reason?

fsttyms1

the ones that have failed after the oil jet kit die from a different symptom that cant be seen when they inspect it for the recall. most failures after the oiljet kit are probably flues that were on the way out. the trannies can be going for acouple weeks with out any one noticing. my last 2 i noticed were dieing atleast 2-3 weeks before they actually did

Da_iLLeZt_TL973

i think ACURA owes us ALLLLL new cars by now after all the shit they put us through anybody wit me on dat??????

Bobbydoedoe

more like it prolongs the life of the tranny till 100K

fsttyms1

the tranny, well it would never make it that far unless you are extremly lucky!

fast-tl

I'm looking to trade my 96,000 '00 in Feb for a new '05 TL or a slightly used '04. Hopefully I won't be at 100K by then. I'm honestly wondering if the value of the 2G TL is going to tank once the odometer reads 100,000 since both my AcuraCare (which finally paid for itself!!!!) and the tranny extension run out at 100K. I'm worried the trade value will be absolutely horrible, but I don't have the cash to dump my oil-jetted tranny before early next year.

stiletto

I think it is the same philosophy MicroSoft uses... in other words, it is just like the service packs, except MicroSoft releases these on a timely basis.

chewi

so the oil injector will temporarily help your transmission, but will still fail on you later?
thats sucks!

i guess they can't afford to give us all a new, revised, problem-free tramission and so we just get a small, cheap ass patch up job that will only extend the lifetime of our short-life transmissions.

em17henry

my tranny lasted over 100k miles more like about 130k miles w/o oil jet. I wouldn't do it,

Edward'TLS

If the 3nd gear clutch pack catches up, the tranny will still fail with or without the oil jet kit.

fsttyms1

the oil jet is to prevent the 2nd gear shaft from over heating and breaking causing the wheels to lock up and cause a loss of control of the car.

ncbuckeye

They did mine and my tranny went 3 weeks later.

fsttyms1

mine died on the way to get it

chris03tl

The main issue with the tranny is with the 3rd gear clutch pack, not the 2nd.

All this really does fix is Hondas "rep" for fixing problems. Now imagine all the people who dont know any better, and think Honda is fixing the real issue for them.

Plus it probably helps get the trannies to 100K miles, so Honda can disavow all knowledge of any issue (cant wait, can you imagine all TSBs and complaints being pulled from All Data after Honda can somehow verify the "affected" trannies are out of warranty? I wouldnt put it by them)

Its not even a band-aid. More like a placebo.

-Chris

fsttyms1

there were 2 issues. 1 was more severe and was on its way to lawsuits. that is what the oil jet fix is for. teh 2nd problem which is what teh majority of us have is like you said the 3rd gear clutch pack (i know i had 3 trannies die on me now and i did alot of research into the issues) there is no known update for the failing 3rd gear issue. so any one who rebuilds the trannies sticks the same spec parts and the factory does

gotbeef

What's failing 3rd gear like? My tranny definitely doesn't feel smooth between 3rd and 4th gear. it randomly shifts down and up, especially when I'm coasting. possible early signs?

fsttyms1

the only sign i ever had with all 3 trannies were a slipping clutch type shift between 2nd to 3rd.

joseph_99tl

i'm on my second trans.
i have about 90k on the car.
it shifts good now...but i just don't trust it.
whenever i drive the car...i'm just waiting for trouble signs to start again.

so.

if it happens again....and they don't cover me...
i'll look into a 3rd party rebuild.

think a rebuild from a non Honda shop would use better parts?.
or rebuild it differently?.

fsttyms1

they dont. i looked into it and none of them use parts that are "improved" from the factory design. i looked into it when my 3rd died. i talked to plases like aamco acouple local places and a few other big places and they all use teh same stuff

Ruski

Shouldn't cost them THAT much to give us all a free new car, right? Since according to them the problem only affected very few people

I mean, they could just arrange so that Oprah would invite us all to her show and give each one of us a present, but this time not a Pontiac G6 but rather a new TL.

But then I would be stuck with an Acura again... can't wait for this lease to end.

imax

I got the "Official" Acura Tranny Recall notice for my 2002 TL TypeS yesterday 11/06/04.

I thought I was in the clear but nooooooo

Curious that it is dated Summer 2004 as I would NOT consider November 6th as a Summer 2004 Recall

Ymiked

There are TWO separate problems with the 2nd gen Acura transmissions:

1) Frequent failures by sudden downshifts, failure to upshift, jumping gears and slipping. The failure is the original reason for the 100K warranty and the replacement of failed transmissions with rebuilt units. To my knowledge there is not a 'new transmission' replacement for these units. Here is the NHTSA 'whitewash'. Only 35 complaints when 'closed'. Please complain at: http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/

Make : ACURA; Model : 3.2TL;
NHTSA Action Number : PE02081
Date Investigation Opened: October 28, 2002
Date Investigation Closed: March 5, 2003

http://152.122.48.12/prepos/files/A...02081-15340.pdf

http://152.122.48.12/prepos/files/A...-PE02081-NN.PDF

2) The recall. This is for the inspection of the gear and oil jet addition to cool the second gear gear. This has caused (at last report) only two failures and has no relation to problem number 1

tls816

just replace a trans. that is the latest one. cuz the oil jet kit is internal. but still got some problem on 2nd to 3nd