A 6 Speed Auto SWAP????
Im dreaming here OK so bear with me...

Since the new BASE TL have the new Standar 6 Speed Auto...
What do you think? Could it be doable for us who dont wanna mess with a Manual?

(I For one Could not care less about amount of HP loss in the Auto Trans I just want a Comfortable Ride Transmission who doesnt Kill Himself every 80K)

So like my Bud Jeremy Clarkson would Say: "How Hard can It Be????"


Leave your Comments about it!

 

Oh dude that's a good idea. I have no idea if it's feasible, but I didn't even think about it.

 

first of all not going to happen easily with the different bell housing patterns between the years

second how are you going to control that extra gear? (let alone having different gear ratios, the necessary shift points needed with them; ie: computer/ecu would need to be reprogrammed at a minimum, or at least a stand alone trans computer)




so your best bet would be to do the newer odyssey trans swap if anything

 

Magics, friesm2000. Magics.

 

also forgot to mention, is it is going to be very cost prohibitive for the time being, UNTIL the 6-speeds autos start to pile up in the junkyards (ie: car gets totaled, and some of the first cars, i would probably not want anyways, due to having to be VERY damaged in order to total out by insurance

 

I know I know "friesm" but when no one thinked about the 6S peed Manual they also put alot of Excuses soooo Money is as always the Enemy here!

I remember someone said that if it comes from a J engine to another J engine the Trans must fit since all J ENGINES have the Same Bolt Pattern for the Transmission.

Also cool stuff for the Trans is that is a Semi-DSG transmission + LSD!
Ratios are Meant for the TL not a Universal shit...

AGAIN the trans is the FWD Only TL is a 6 Speed not the AWD Model since must be a hell lot of different one.



Sooo we must think about a Serious amount of Electronic Issues to begin with!

 

yes the cost of the trans itself is going to be an issue right now indeed (and lets not even consider that for the time being)

in fact J's have TWO different bell housing patterns, because i know on the manual swap, i could not use newer then a 05 trans (or a 3g type-s one) due to them having a different bell housing pattern


and the ratios being meant for a TL, yeah a heavier 4g TL with larger tires, not a lightweight 2g TL/CL (relatively speaking)
and the ratios will be different on the 6-speed vs the 5-speed, since the 6-speed ones will be closer spaced, no different then the manual ratios (and i already got LSD on mine )


as far as being different between the FWD and AWD models, not as much as you think, normally it is just different housings, with additional bosses (and a shaft off of the ring gear normally) for the center differential to bolt to, to send the power backwards; otherwise all the internals are normally the same (ie: you plug up the output for the center diff, and it would act as a FWD trans)(also give it time the 6 speed auto will be in the AWD version at some point)



but yeah the electronic/programming issues are going to be the biggest headache here to get right (if it indeed would fit and bolt right up)
btw a manual is alot easier to swap to due to the programming basically being the driver; and as far as richie's module is concerned, all it is doing is MIMICING an auto trans, not actually trying to shift it smoothly or anything along those lines (it's just to keep the ECU happy, nothing more)

 

Yeahh but I kinda like it for being that much of a Problem..
My other dream was Transforming a 2G into AWD using all RL stuff (And hell I will try it If I get my Hands into one junkyard RL in the Future).

I know it sounds Difficult but I think thats the most satisfiyng part, Knowing that it was a PITA but no one else tried it.

I for One would give it a Shot if I had the Money I dont care Laying around messing with Circuit Diagrams and Electric mumbo jumbo.
Just get the Thing DONE.


Im not that into Manual since pressing a clutch every stop seems a Hassle to Me and I just love to drive for the sake of It, Let the Car care for the Rest.



I just wanted to know your Opinions about it, For the Heck of it I will get a Quote for the 4G TL 6 Speed Auto just to get a Figure.

 

personally i would love to see a AWD 2g TL, but good luck with that, and to tell you the truth it might almost be easily to grab a MDX ecu then to try and get the RL ecu to work (since the early MDX's were still cable throttle body's iirc), since the closest "computer/ecu platform" would be the easiest to get to work properly
btw you know the SH-AWD system was basically tested out on the MDX, before it was giving an actual name with the RL, just look at pictures of the MDX rear diff compared to a RL one, they sure as hell look very similiar and MASSIVE suckers


and if you have not noticed already, i have already thought about a AWD 2g TL







as far as money not being an issue, easy when you don't have to have an actual job lol, since that could in essence be your "job"





and as far as a manual and pushing a clutch in everytime you stop, if you drive and plan at the same time, you don't have to stop as much as you think with a manual (you coast/creep up to a light in gear, instead of coming up to it and hitting the brakes like in an auto; so some of it is just changing your driving habits





btw a 4g TL FWD, more then likely looking at roughly $38k new, with over $40k for the AWD versions
and if you are woundering about that part.... my mom is looking into getting a AWD version at some point possibly (then i get it like 10 years later BUT it will have been maintained though by me, and washed on a regular basis, sometimes twice a week, from her OCD of having a clean car lol)

 

anything is possible if you have the time and money. i estimate the cost at $10,000-$20,000 and if its a one man job at least 3-4 months of work. why would you go through all this trouble when you could get a 6 speed manual at so much less. also the 5AT on the TL is not so bad until you get to 4th gear. so i don't think a 6AT will affect the 0-60 or quarter mile by much. if you want serious performance improvement get a supercharger for $3-4k

 

The SHAWD is an old thought. I looked into it back when it came out. Used the parts list came in around 16k back then. Im sure finding a totaled TL or RL now could be found much cheaper. Wiring though would be the nightmare. With my little Acura Adventure out to LA a few months ago i told an Engineer that if the parts were to land on my door step (hint hint) i would have the car in the garage that day to start the conversion. Still no parts

That said it would take A LOT of work. The center tunnel is MUCH wider on the TL/RL than we have. The rear subframe and suspension location points are much different, and you have to figure out something for the gas tank as ours is in the way. If someone (Acura) were to give me all the parts or a wrecked TL id do the conversion. Wiring though would be the single hardest part.

 

not so much, especially if you could steal the wiring off of the donor car, and just shorten/lengthen it as needed, compared to wiring it up completely by yourself

but don't get me wrong wiring is not the best/fun job to do (it not very hard at all, just time consuming)

 

Even then i think it would be. ALL the different yaw and wheel speed sensors etc....