Has anyone done a 6spd TL-p?
08-29-2007, 10:49 PM
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Has anyone done a 6spd TL-p?
Just as the title states. Has anyone done this? I've searched here and only seen the 6spd done to TL/CL-s. I’m not interested in have a S motor. The power on my TL-p is decent and only really looking into the 6spd because I think my tranny is going soon.
I've also searched AV6 and seen the 6spd done to their J30 using a special module. I would assume we would use the same module and call it a day.
http://www./forums/showthread.php?t=73383
I also wonder when dropping a S motor in a TL-p why you have to change the wire harnesses? I come from a Civic/Integra world. So I know if you drop a vtec motor in a non vtec car you can just run a wire to the ECU. Simple things like that instead of having to change the whole engine/cabin wire harness. I’m not familiar with wiring or schematics at all but can’t you just do something like this with the TL. Possibly find out the pins on a CL-s ECU vs. a TL-p/s ECU and just swap pins around at the ECU if they are in a different order.
I hope I make sense. Our minds think faster than most of us can type it out.
I've also searched AV6 and seen the 6spd done to their J30 using a special module. I would assume we would use the same module and call it a day.
http://www./forums/showthread.php?t=73383
I also wonder when dropping a S motor in a TL-p why you have to change the wire harnesses? I come from a Civic/Integra world. So I know if you drop a vtec motor in a non vtec car you can just run a wire to the ECU. Simple things like that instead of having to change the whole engine/cabin wire harness. I’m not familiar with wiring or schematics at all but can’t you just do something like this with the TL. Possibly find out the pins on a CL-s ECU vs. a TL-p/s ECU and just swap pins around at the ECU if they are in a different order.
I hope I make sense. Our minds think faster than most of us can type it out.
08-29-2007, 10:54 PM
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Well my boy Jae just did the 6spd on a J30 and the owner loves it. You will most likely need a new wire harness cause you 6spd looks for the type S motor
08-29-2007, 11:27 PM
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yeah i've been looking at that harness but it's all done on an accord... I want to get the 6spd for my tl-p and want to make sure i get everything i need... i don't really have an extra car so i need to minimize the down time...
08-29-2007, 11:43 PM
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This is a great thread, I have been thinking the same thing for a while. I asked it a few times in the various 6spd threads, but no one ever answers me. I too have the TL-P and would rather just throw on the 6spd and get some kind of module to trick the tranny into thinking it is the Type-S motor instead of having to get the wiring harness, ecu, and Type-S motor. A LOT less money, and it isn't like the TL-P's are slow or anything.
08-29-2007, 11:53 PM
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yup... that module has worked on a couple of AV6's (Accord V6) already... still waiting to see if it works on a TL... but it's still the same situation... it's a S motor with the 6spd... i'm trying to get clarification on what the TL is actually using... I would assume he's using a TL-p engine/dash wire harness... if he was using a CL-s harness then everything should just work fine...
08-30-2007, 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dro_15
Just as the title states. Has anyone done this? I've searched here and only seen the 6spd done to TL/CL-s. I’m not interested in have a S motor. The power on my TL-p is decent and only really looking into the 6spd because I think my tranny is going soon.
I've also searched AV6 and seen the 6spd done to their J30 using a special module. I would assume we would use the same module and call it a day.
http://www./forums/showthread.php?t=73383
I also wonder when dropping a S motor in a TL-p why you have to change the wire harnesses? I come from a Civic/Integra world. So I know if you drop a vtec motor in a non vtec car you can just run a wire to the ECU. Simple things like that instead of having to change the whole engine/cabin wire harness. I’m not familiar with wiring or schematics at all but can’t you just do something like this with the TL. Possibly find out the pins on a CL-s ECU vs. a TL-p/s ECU and just swap pins around at the ECU if they are in a different order.
I hope I make sense. Our minds think faster than most of us can type it out.
I've also searched AV6 and seen the 6spd done to their J30 using a special module. I would assume we would use the same module and call it a day.
http://www./forums/showthread.php?t=73383
I also wonder when dropping a S motor in a TL-p why you have to change the wire harnesses? I come from a Civic/Integra world. So I know if you drop a vtec motor in a non vtec car you can just run a wire to the ECU. Simple things like that instead of having to change the whole engine/cabin wire harness. I’m not familiar with wiring or schematics at all but can’t you just do something like this with the TL. Possibly find out the pins on a CL-s ECU vs. a TL-p/s ECU and just swap pins around at the ECU if they are in a different order.
I hope I make sense. Our minds think faster than most of us can type it out.
It's been up there forever. Well I'll help you out anyway, here goes: https://acurazine.com/forums/technology-16/anybody-have-sony-t616-132270/
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08-30-2007, 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Gfaze
You didn't see the sticky near the top of the thread list?!? It's been up there forever. Well I'll help you out anyway, here goes: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132270
It's been up there forever. Well I'll help you out anyway, here goes: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132270
I forgot he did the engine swap too. 
08-30-2007, 04:05 AM
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Hello everyone,
I am Rich the guy that made the tranny module for the Accords. I stumbled on this post looking for a good read.
The module basically allows an auto ecu to interface with any 6 speed tranny without any issues, the car works as if it came with a 6 speed from the factory.
For example you could mate a auto TL-P or Type S engine with a 6 speed without having to change ecu or wiring.
Some advantages would be that you can use the TL or Accord 6 speed instead of the rare CL-s 6 speed. There is no need to change ecu, harnesses, cam sensors or have the deal with programing the immobilizer. You could swap out your TL-P engine for a Type S and use the cheaper auto engine with auto harness and ecu.
Accords I have everything working seamlessly, with no CEL and passes inspection. For the people running J32 motors I made a prototype module to be tested on Joes car. (Base TL with auto J32A2 ecu and 6 speed) But the prototype was damaged while he was trying to bypass the immobilizer. Then lost in the mail on the way back to me. From the info he gave me the car module should work the only problem I see is random CEL codes and inaccurate speedo.
Feel free to ask any questions.
I am Rich the guy that made the tranny module for the Accords. I stumbled on this post looking for a good read.
The module basically allows an auto ecu to interface with any 6 speed tranny without any issues, the car works as if it came with a 6 speed from the factory.
For example you could mate a auto TL-P or Type S engine with a 6 speed without having to change ecu or wiring.
Some advantages would be that you can use the TL or Accord 6 speed instead of the rare CL-s 6 speed. There is no need to change ecu, harnesses, cam sensors or have the deal with programing the immobilizer. You could swap out your TL-P engine for a Type S and use the cheaper auto engine with auto harness and ecu.
Accords I have everything working seamlessly, with no CEL and passes inspection. For the people running J32 motors I made a prototype module to be tested on Joes car. (Base TL with auto J32A2 ecu and 6 speed) But the prototype was damaged while he was trying to bypass the immobilizer. Then lost in the mail on the way back to me. From the info he gave me the car module should work the only problem I see is random CEL codes and inaccurate speedo.
Feel free to ask any questions.
08-30-2007, 08:32 AM
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Richie: Please keep me/us updated if the module has succesfully worked out for a TL-p or type S for these other guys. Would it be the same module for both the P and S?
08-30-2007, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by dro_15
Richie: Please keep me/us updated if the module has succesfully worked out for a TL-p or type S for these other guys. Would it be the same module for both the P and S?
08-30-2007, 01:02 PM
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So would this mean no engine removal? Also a much cheaper price? Correct me if I'm wrong but you would still need the tranny (~600), module (pricing richie?) and misc parts like the pedals/console etc so it could theoretically be under 1k to do?
08-30-2007, 01:33 PM
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So would this mean no engine removal? Also a much cheaper price? Correct me if I'm wrong but you would still need the tranny (~600), module (pricing richie?) and misc parts like the pedals/console etc so it could theoretically be under 1k to do?
08-30-2007, 01:40 PM
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And Rich, thanks for joining and keep us updated if you will be able to make some of these modules for the TL-P's. Both 99 4spd and 00-03 5 spd. I know there is a lot of interest from people to do the 6 spd swap, but it is too expensive for most if they would have to put in Type-S motor, wiring harness, ECU and everything else. There will definitely be a market for them here if you can work something out.
08-30-2007, 02:53 PM
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Richie keep US posted of your module. 
Question would any 03+ 6 speed tranny work?(TSX,Accord,TL,RSX)
Reason I'm asking when I was looking for 6 speed Tranny Honda Tech Guy told me that all J series tranny will fit the Same is this TRUE??
Here what he e-mail.....
Our Acura/Honda certified master mechanic replaced the syncro with a new one and it is now as good as new. We are selling it with a 90 day warranty to ensure your satisfaction. You will not know the difference between a brand new tranny versus this rebuilt/repaired unit. This gear box is being sold with 90 day warranty so bid with confidence. This tranny cost over $6k new from the dealer so this might be your last chance to get hold of one at a fraction of the cost.
This gear box will fit all J series engines (V-6) from:
Acura TL 2004 - 2007
Acura TL type S 1999 - 2003
Acura CL type S 2001 - 2003
Honda Accord V6 2003 - 2007
Condition: Used --- excellent
***Note: This tranny is the same as the 2003 Acura CL type S (6 Spd) but with LSD _-Get it!!!! It will bolt to the Honda Accord V6 engine (J30) also.
Question would any 03+ 6 speed tranny work?(TSX,Accord,TL,RSX)
Reason I'm asking when I was looking for 6 speed Tranny Honda Tech Guy told me that all J series tranny will fit the Same is this TRUE??
Here what he e-mail.....
Our Acura/Honda certified master mechanic replaced the syncro with a new one and it is now as good as new. We are selling it with a 90 day warranty to ensure your satisfaction. You will not know the difference between a brand new tranny versus this rebuilt/repaired unit. This gear box is being sold with 90 day warranty so bid with confidence. This tranny cost over $6k new from the dealer so this might be your last chance to get hold of one at a fraction of the cost.
This gear box will fit all J series engines (V-6) from:
Acura TL 2004 - 2007
Acura TL type S 1999 - 2003
Acura CL type S 2001 - 2003
Honda Accord V6 2003 - 2007
Condition: Used --- excellent
***Note: This tranny is the same as the 2003 Acura CL type S (6 Spd) but with LSD _-Get it!!!! It will bolt to the Honda Accord V6 engine (J30) also.
08-30-2007, 06:37 PM
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I have read the module is priced at $700... I think it's a bit pricey... I don't know where this figure comes from but can you give us the actual price Richie.... would you do some kind of GP after you have successful TL-p/6spd running your module... you could put me one of the first in line... i did try and get a hold of capnff but still waiting on a reply...
08-30-2007, 10:13 PM
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Really interested....but before any thoughts of selling this module here. You will need to talk to the Admins here to become a vendor.
The TL-P is not a bad motor at all. Would like to have the S motor tho....but the tranny is much more important as our slushboxes are sooooooo....weak.
The TL-P is not a bad motor at all. Would like to have the S motor tho....but the tranny is much more important as our slushboxes are sooooooo....weak.
08-31-2007, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dro_15
your talking about the TL-p and TL-s right... The only thing I know is the 99 TL is 4gear and 00 on up is 5gear.... Please someone correct me if I am wrong.
08-31-2007, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by KSuchdeve
And Rich, thanks for joining and keep us updated if you will be able to make some of these modules for the TL-P's. Both 99 4spd and 00-03 5 spd. I know there is a lot of interest from people to do the 6 spd swap, but it is too expensive for most if they would have to put in Type-S motor, wiring harness, ECU and everything else. There will definitely be a market for them here if you can work something out.
08-31-2007, 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by AznWayTL's
Richie keep US posted of your module.
Question would any 03+ 6 speed tranny work?(TSX,Accord,TL,RSX)
Reason I'm asking when I was looking for 6 speed Tranny Honda Tech Guy told me that all J series tranny will fit the Same is this TRUE??
Here what he e-mail.....
Our Acura/Honda certified master mechanic replaced the syncro with a new one and it is now as good as new. We are selling it with a 90 day warranty to ensure your satisfaction. You will not know the difference between a brand new tranny versus this rebuilt/repaired unit. This gear box is being sold with 90 day warranty so bid with confidence. This tranny cost over $6k new from the dealer so this might be your last chance to get hold of one at a fraction of the cost.
This gear box will fit all J series engines (V-6) from:
Acura TL 2004 - 2007
Acura TL type S 1999 - 2003
Acura CL type S 2001 - 2003
Honda Accord V6 2003 - 2007
Condition: Used --- excellent
***Note: This tranny is the same as the 2003 Acura CL type S (6 Spd) but with LSD _-Get it!!!! It will bolt to the Honda Accord V6 engine (J30) also.
Question would any 03+ 6 speed tranny work?(TSX,Accord,TL,RSX)
Reason I'm asking when I was looking for 6 speed Tranny Honda Tech Guy told me that all J series tranny will fit the Same is this TRUE??
Here what he e-mail.....
Our Acura/Honda certified master mechanic replaced the syncro with a new one and it is now as good as new. We are selling it with a 90 day warranty to ensure your satisfaction. You will not know the difference between a brand new tranny versus this rebuilt/repaired unit. This gear box is being sold with 90 day warranty so bid with confidence. This tranny cost over $6k new from the dealer so this might be your last chance to get hold of one at a fraction of the cost.
This gear box will fit all J series engines (V-6) from:
Acura TL 2004 - 2007
Acura TL type S 1999 - 2003
Acura CL type S 2001 - 2003
Honda Accord V6 2003 - 2007
Condition: Used --- excellent
***Note: This tranny is the same as the 2003 Acura CL type S (6 Spd) but with LSD _-Get it!!!! It will bolt to the Honda Accord V6 engine (J30) also.
my mistake all j series 6 speed trannys will fit. the tsx and rsx are k series.
the TL and CL 6 speed have lsd and the Accord does not have LSD. the CL 6 speed has a special crack sensor that the other 2 do not.
08-31-2007, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dro_15
I have read the module is priced at $700... I think it's a bit pricey... I don't know where this figure comes from but can you give us the actual price Richie.... would you do some kind of GP after you have successful TL-p/6spd running your module... you could put me one of the first in line... i did try and get a hold of capnff but still waiting on a reply...
08-31-2007, 10:18 AM
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The LSD is well worth it IMHO
08-31-2007, 10:34 AM
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LSD is great and all but if you can't find one, what are the alternatives... the newer TL or accords am i correct... also if you don't us a CL-s tranny do you still need the module or can i just do a straight swap... my main goal is not for any performance upgrade but a more reliable car overall...
08-31-2007, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Richie v6
i am pretty sure the same module would work does anyone know if the TL-p and Type-s tranny are the same.
08-31-2007, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dro_15
LSD is great and all but if you can't find one, what are the alternatives... the newer TL or accords am i correct... also if you don't us a CL-s tranny do you still need the module or can i just do a straight swap... my main goal is not for any performance upgrade but a more reliable car overall...
08-31-2007, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
The LSD is well worth it IMHO
08-31-2007, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ryebreadisme
Richie, where are you located?
Also the 04+ TL 6-speed will work, but we need the module for use of that tranny? Correct me if I misread something.
Also the 04+ TL 6-speed will work, but we need the module for use of that tranny? Correct me if I misread something.
08-31-2007, 02:05 PM
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You sir, are too far away. But I believe there are some people on here somewhat close. So, if I wanted to Type S swap the most efficient thing to do is find the CL S-6?
08-31-2007, 02:49 PM
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okay so... 04+ TL tranny and is it 03+ accord are alternatives to the CL-s 6spd.. i don't plan on changing wire harnesses... just your harness and the 6spd parts is all i need...
09-14-2007, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dro_15
okay so... 04+ TL tranny and is it 03+ accord are alternatives to the CL-s 6spd.. i don't plan on changing wire harnesses... just your harness and the 6spd parts is all i need...
I just wanted to confirm that with the use of the module, there isn't a need to change wire harnesses? So like stated above, all i would need is the module, 6sp CL-s tranny and misc parts(like clutch pedal, e-brake etc)?? thanks in advance!!
09-14-2007, 04:30 PM
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yup... that's what i understand it as...
although i have found out the module will make the 6spd work correctly but you will have CELs... that is until he gets the module fixed... for me CELs are a no no... Here in cali you won't be able to smog your car with a CEL...
although i have found out the module will make the 6spd work correctly but you will have CELs... that is until he gets the module fixed... for me CELs are a no no... Here in cali you won't be able to smog your car with a CEL...