H&R Springs or Comptech Springs?
#1
H&R Springs or Comptech Springs?
I was wondering what springs to consider. I wanted comptech springs because everyone had good opinions on them, but others tell me I should just stick to H&R because the Comptech springs are H&R springs plus $100 cheaper.
#3
Just spend the extra $$ and get the Comptechs. The H&Rs were designed for the Accord will sag too much on the TL due to the additional weight (especially the O.E.'s from what I hear). Being an owner of the Comptechs, I cannot imagine that the H&Rs can provide a better ride, as the Comptech's ride is very good. I personally think the Comptechs look better as well.
And this issue has been discussed plenty. Do a search - you won't find one dissatisfied Comptech owner.
And this issue has been discussed plenty. Do a search - you won't find one dissatisfied Comptech owner.
#4
Three Wheelin'
Joined: Apr 2001
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From: Salem, OR
Do search, there are a couple of good posts recently that have plenty of info. Either way you probably won't be dissappointed, depends what you are after.
I am happy with how much my H&R's 'SAG'
I am happy with how much my H&R's 'SAG'
#5
Bricot:
So your TL rides pretty smooth? You don't really have any scraping issues do you? I'm almost convinced to choose H&R over Comptech. Now I dunno whether to stay conservative with sport springs or racing springs. Probably stick to the sports. Anyone have any pics of their TL with H&R racing springs? Also, somewhere in this forum I heard that with the H&R sport springs, it may be possible that the rear springs could be lower than the front making the car's head stick up a little. Is this true?!? Just need answers......I'm getting ready to order all this soon. And with sway bars, Comptech or Neuspeed? And everyone tells me the Neuspeed upper front tie bar is almost useless compared to the stock. Comment on this if possible. You guys help guide me the way. Then I'll be ready! >=)
So your TL rides pretty smooth? You don't really have any scraping issues do you? I'm almost convinced to choose H&R over Comptech. Now I dunno whether to stay conservative with sport springs or racing springs. Probably stick to the sports. Anyone have any pics of their TL with H&R racing springs? Also, somewhere in this forum I heard that with the H&R sport springs, it may be possible that the rear springs could be lower than the front making the car's head stick up a little. Is this true?!? Just need answers......I'm getting ready to order all this soon. And with sway bars, Comptech or Neuspeed? And everyone tells me the Neuspeed upper front tie bar is almost useless compared to the stock. Comment on this if possible. You guys help guide me the way. Then I'll be ready! >=)
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#8
and what about the eibach pro? or the sportline?(probably too low) I just want the best rated on my TL-S with at least a 2 inch drop. I know everyone loves their Comptechs but with that 100 dollars I could put that into my future custom Y pipe for my Comptech Exhaust. So......i need to know best springs for best price. I want H&R sport or H&R race. Eibach would be third only because I don't know much about them. Just heard they're really reliable on accords. Help me out!
#9
Dude, go with the Sport, the race will lower your car way too much for the conservative look you are looking for.
Ask bdimc2001, we just bought his springs and installed them as a Christmas gift. He has pics of before and after. Also no rubbing, he has a lot of weight in the trunk due to system and the rear sits perfectly tucked in.
Real nice if you ask me.
Ask bdimc2001, we just bought his springs and installed them as a Christmas gift. He has pics of before and after. Also no rubbing, he has a lot of weight in the trunk due to system and the rear sits perfectly tucked in.
Real nice if you ask me.
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Three Wheelin'
Joined: Apr 2001
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From: Salem, OR
They say its 25% stiffer, I wouldn't want it any stiffer, it is multiplied by the fact I put 45 series tires on too. I will probably go back to 50's for the next set, no scraping problems
The race springs definitely make look it look slammed (lose sight of the top of the tires inside the wheel wheels) and they say they are 100% stiffer. No I think it gets rid of the front end sitting higher (stock), because the front drop is greater than the rear.
The race springs definitely make look it look slammed (lose sight of the top of the tires inside the wheel wheels) and they say they are 100% stiffer. No I think it gets rid of the front end sitting higher (stock), because the front drop is greater than the rear.
#15
sorry.....I meant i "am" getting sways. I want to know whether I should stick to comptech sways or neuspeed sways? I'd rather save money(leaning over neuspeed) but I'd rather have the more efficient set.
#16
Some feel the comptechs lower the front too much and the back not enough, what they define a 'rake' look.
Some people like that, some people don't. Its all in the eye of the beholder.
I hope no one gets PO'd at me, but i'm taking the liberty of posting some some links with owner rides for a comparison between the two:
H&R Sports
Comptech Springs
Hope this helps...
Some people like that, some people don't. Its all in the eye of the beholder.
I hope no one gets PO'd at me, but i'm taking the liberty of posting some some links with owner rides for a comparison between the two:
H&R Sports
Comptech Springs
Hope this helps...
#17
When I get the H&R springs installed, won't I have a negative camber setting? If so, is there a camber kit that will help resolve this problem? First off, I just need to make sure that this is a problem. Are you guys getting more tire wear?
#18
You won't need a camber kit with the Comptechs because they only drop the rear 1.5"
Any more drop than 1.5" (H&R Sport, Eibach, etc.) will likely require a camber kit if you don't want to be too far out of spec.
Even with the Comptechs you may be borderline out of spec (I'm RIGHT on the borderline - I saw the digital printout when I got my alignment), so I have to image that more than a 1.5" drop will create a need for a camber kit.
Any more drop than 1.5" (H&R Sport, Eibach, etc.) will likely require a camber kit if you don't want to be too far out of spec.
Even with the Comptechs you may be borderline out of spec (I'm RIGHT on the borderline - I saw the digital printout when I got my alignment), so I have to image that more than a 1.5" drop will create a need for a camber kit.
#20
Dude, just get the H&R Sport Springs. They will give you the ride you want, and the amount of drop you want. If you want at least a 2 inch drop, the Comptech do not fit your list. Even the H&R Sports are 1.75 - 2 inches. The H&R Race and Eibach Pro-Kit seem to drop about the same. If you're worried about rubbing, go into the tire forum, and read the sticky asking people if their setup (wheels, tires, and springs) make their cars rub.
MY H&R Springs haven't started sagging, and I did not need a camber adjustment for them, either. Tire wear is still even. BUT, if you want performance, a little camber is good, helps out around the corners.
As for Comptech, the front wheel gap will be less than the rear wheel gap, giving it a "raked" look, like the rear is slightly higher than the front. There have been members saying that the wheel gap was different on one said than the other, too. Not sure what they determined that to be.
As for sways... just to throw another wrench into the equation, Eibach should have their new bars out by now. Eibach (you said you don't know much about them) make some of the best performance parts in the world.
MY H&R Springs haven't started sagging, and I did not need a camber adjustment for them, either. Tire wear is still even. BUT, if you want performance, a little camber is good, helps out around the corners.
As for Comptech, the front wheel gap will be less than the rear wheel gap, giving it a "raked" look, like the rear is slightly higher than the front. There have been members saying that the wheel gap was different on one said than the other, too. Not sure what they determined that to be.
As for sways... just to throw another wrench into the equation, Eibach should have their new bars out by now. Eibach (you said you don't know much about them) make some of the best performance parts in the world.
#22
Bricot:
You need a camber kit for your H&R's right now? With sways, I want the Neuspeeds. But! It is a TL by the way so I might just either get the Eibach sways or Comptech sways, whichever is cheaper. I guess I'll stay conservative. It is my daily driver.
You need a camber kit for your H&R's right now? With sways, I want the Neuspeeds. But! It is a TL by the way so I might just either get the Eibach sways or Comptech sways, whichever is cheaper. I guess I'll stay conservative. It is my daily driver.
#24
Bricot:
That's nice to hear. Guess I'll do that. I think I'm just going to wait for the Eibach Anti-Roll Kit. It costs about the same as the Comptech sways plus the rear Eibach sway I heard is thicker and I think the front sway is solid. Oh yeah, how does your headers sound? Is there any sound coming from there?
That's nice to hear. Guess I'll do that. I think I'm just going to wait for the Eibach Anti-Roll Kit. It costs about the same as the Comptech sways plus the rear Eibach sway I heard is thicker and I think the front sway is solid. Oh yeah, how does your headers sound? Is there any sound coming from there?
#25
I have a set of H&R sport's off my CL-S and is torn between choosing the OEM or sports. I like the lower look of the sports but do not like the fact that my +42 off set 18's will most likely rub.
I was hoping that the H&R OEM with my +42 -18" rims will not rub?
Can anyone confirm this? Can anyone post pics of OEm with 18's or 19's?
Allen
I was hoping that the H&R OEM with my +42 -18" rims will not rub?
Can anyone confirm this? Can anyone post pics of OEm with 18's or 19's?
Allen
#26
Hn R Sport Drop
I noticed that my front is higher than the rear. Especially on an incline! LOL I've noticed that I have even tire space all around, but I still have a bit of a raked look. (Which I prefer). Hn R claims 1.75 front and 1.50 for the rear. If you want the rear lower just talk to the Soprano's! Right now I have even tire space ( or though it appears anyway) all around.
#27
"Just spend the extra $$ and get the Comptechs. The H&Rs were designed for the Accord will sag too much on the TL due to the additional weight "
That's not true...they were not designed for the Accord...I talked to H&R about this. The OE's drop more because the drop is listed for the Accord...this is not true with the Sport Springs. Comptech springs, as with all Comptech, is just springs + a name...and you pay for that name. That doesn't mean they're bad...it just means that they provide the same quality as other springs for a larger sum of money. I've now ridden in a ride with Comptechs and with H&R Sports...and I'd go with the H&R for sure.
As for sways...go search...I was trying to decide the same. Neuspeed sways are the way you want to go. Make sure to get the 25mm (1") rear sway.
Austin519
That's not true...they were not designed for the Accord...I talked to H&R about this. The OE's drop more because the drop is listed for the Accord...this is not true with the Sport Springs. Comptech springs, as with all Comptech, is just springs + a name...and you pay for that name. That doesn't mean they're bad...it just means that they provide the same quality as other springs for a larger sum of money. I've now ridden in a ride with Comptechs and with H&R Sports...and I'd go with the H&R for sure.
As for sways...go search...I was trying to decide the same. Neuspeed sways are the way you want to go. Make sure to get the 25mm (1") rear sway.
Austin519
#28
billyvader:
front is higher for you? Well, on an incline when you sit on your car, does it feel like the front's propped up or something's heavy in your trunk? I don't really care. Not too many huge hills around my area away. I'll stick with H&R sport.
front is higher for you? Well, on an incline when you sit on your car, does it feel like the front's propped up or something's heavy in your trunk? I don't really care. Not too many huge hills around my area away. I'll stick with H&R sport.
#31
hey, for all of you H&R sport spring owners(especially) and spring owners with at least 1.75, can you guys still get the lift under your car? I do my own oil changes and I'm afraid I won't be able to anymore. Please help!
#34
Originally posted by MoDzHuNgRy
billyvader:
front is higher for you? Well, on an incline when you sit on your car, does it feel like the front's propped up or something's heavy in your trunk? I don't really care. Not too many huge hills around my area away. I'll stick with H&R sport.
billyvader:
front is higher for you? Well, on an incline when you sit on your car, does it feel like the front's propped up or something's heavy in your trunk? I don't really care. Not too many huge hills around my area away. I'll stick with H&R sport.
#35
HnR Drop
Originally posted by SimTypeS
That's true. Missouri is flat as Michael Jackson's newest fling.
That's true. Missouri is flat as Michael Jackson's newest fling.
#36
Three Wheelin'
Joined: Apr 2001
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From: Salem, OR
I do my own oil changes and put on the sways. If you have a a standard floor jack as I do, I wind up having to go in behind the front wheel to get around the body kit.
Got PSI, I hear you it would be nice if the springs were 1/2" higher.
Got PSI, I hear you it would be nice if the springs were 1/2" higher.
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