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Old 07-16-2001 | 11:22 PM
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H&R Sports and Racing OWNERS!

I'd like to see some pics from you and how is the ride and the handling compared to stock? any scratches? are you satisfied? any other springs owner are welcome too! Neuspeed? Thanks all
Old 07-16-2001 | 11:40 PM
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I'm in the same position. H&R stage 2 vs. comptechs. $100 is a big difference.
Old 07-16-2001 | 11:54 PM
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I'm also considering the NeuSpeed springs.
Old 07-17-2001 | 01:42 AM
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Just got my H&R Stage 2 Sport Spings installed last week. It had a rating of 1.75/1.75 in (front/ back) drop for the TL-P, but i have a TL-S. The drop seems much lower than 1.75/1.75...TL-S is heavier, but i don't know by how much. I'm always scared of tire rubbing, i can barely fit 1 finger through between the fender and the tires. Scraped the front bumper numerous times. But handling is MUCH better...i just found out how MUCH stock tires SUCK!!! Ride quality is about the same, you woun't notice the difference when you drive, just maybe the bumps or pot holes..but when you drive, you don't really notice or concentrate on feeling the bumps.

The first week i thought the springs were really bumpy, but it was all in my head, i ask the other passenger and they didn't really notice any difference in ride quality..

hope i help
Old 07-17-2001 | 01:54 AM
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love the H&R's. the front does scrape once in a while but if you're experienced with lowered cars then you're used to going on driveway ramps at a diagonal. speed bumps? no problem...i took some today and i was thinking how many times i have posted saying how they don't bottom out yet people are still afraid.

ride comfort is the same though i think the stock shocks will need to be replaced in a year or so. the comfortable ride is such that i am rethinking my intentions to switching to tanabe sustec pro-street coilovers.

and the prices i've seen for comptechs versus H&R are somewhat of a joke considering that comptech must outsource for their springs unless they have their own equipment to temper the steel, shot peen them inside and out, pre-set them and then powder-coat them...think about it...you have no idea where those springs come from...
Old 07-17-2001 | 02:40 AM
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pics with stock rims?

anyone with the Neuspeed that lowers 2 inch? I'm interested in that too. thanks guys!
Old 07-17-2001 | 08:10 AM
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redhot, youve got a 2000 (2 years old now) and your going to go for a 2 inch drop? thats pretty drastic. your shocks might die pretty quickly.
id say go for a smaller drop
Old 07-17-2001 | 01:12 PM
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It was 2 years before I had my 96 Nissan 240SX SE dropped with RS-R springs that dropped about 1.75/1.75 and I drove it for another two years with no sign of shocking giving out anytime soon, Id say, dont worry too much about it...
Old 07-17-2001 | 01:40 PM
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would you guys consider H&R OE or Sports? Seems like some people like the OE better. My car is fairly new, but I don't think the drop on the OE is enough for me. Too subtle, don't you think? And the rear has a larger drop than the front? I'd think it would look weird. I'm opting for the H&R Sports now unless someone can give me a good reason not to get them.
Old 07-17-2001 | 03:48 PM
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we installed the OE Sports (thats what H&R calls them) on another TL after a customer saw my car in the parking lot of my friend's shop. he said he didnt want to go too low. after they were installed...we all had the same reaction..."Doesn't look lowered..." the customer was at best disappointed with the perpetual wheel gap and further frustrated when his car was parked next to mine...the point? why bother...
Old 07-17-2001 | 08:55 PM
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This pic is of H&R Race springs.....
Old 07-17-2001 | 09:04 PM
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BEFROE I GOT MY RIMS w/H&R RACE SPRINGS
Old 07-18-2001 | 02:25 AM
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Comptech definitely outsources for their springs. I know that for a fact.
Old 07-18-2001 | 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by HA 65MPH
BEFROE I GOT MY RIMS w/H&R RACE SPRINGS
Damn... looks nice. Are those stock rubbers as well? Does anybody have pics of Sports springs with stock rim/tire setup?
Old 07-18-2001 | 06:35 PM
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OK..we all talk about the 1.0 OE HR drop..
and the sport 1.75 even.. and race which is 2 or more..

NOW..is there any aftermarket springs out there..that'll do 1.25...1.5.....somewhere around there????
1.5-1.5 or 1.25.1.25....1.35-1.35 inch? if i install the bodykit..1.75 would be very low right???

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Old 07-24-2001 | 02:46 PM
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HA 65MPH:

I'm also thinking about getting some H&R race springs for my 1999 TL. Did you have any problems with rubbing? I have only stock rims. Do you have a camber kit? Did you get an alignment
adjustment? How's your factory shocks holding up? Any info
you provide would be much appreciated! Thanks!
Old 07-24-2001 | 09:56 PM
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H&R Race springs
Old 07-24-2001 | 10:00 PM
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I have noticed I need a alignment. my rear tires lean into the car. I dont think I will need a camberkit. But I plan on getting a alighment this week and will post the results If i need a camber kit. OH YES AND NO RUBBING TOO. on stock 16's or stock TL S Rims.

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Old 07-24-2001 | 10:24 PM
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do you need alignment on the 1 inch or 1.75 inch drop???

have u guys heard of ST = suspension techniques' springs???

they also have 1 inch even drops...

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Old 07-25-2001 | 12:35 AM
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yes you usually need an alignment with any kind of drop.
Old 07-25-2001 | 12:53 AM
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Hey HA 65MPH:

One quick question: with the H&R race springs, it's a 2.2" drop front, 1.75" drop rear (I believe). Does the front end of the TL look more lower than the rear? What I'm trying to say is, does
the lowering look even, or does the front look more lower? I
can't tell from your pic. If it doesn't look even, what do you think about the H&R sport spring (stage 2), which is 1.75" drop front and rear? Anyone here with experience with stage 2 springs?
Wheel well gap? Thanks in advance!

Patrick
Old 07-25-2001 | 12:22 PM
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The ANSWER:

the rear tires are about 1/4 inch in the wheelwell.

the front tires are flush with the wheelwell.


The handling of the car is amazing.
Old 07-25-2001 | 10:47 PM
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Me TooOo. I wanna see pics of H & R Sports on a TL or TLS. Anybody with the Eibach Pro-Kit??
Old 07-25-2001 | 11:17 PM
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H&R Race springs

OK all, I've decided. I will definitely get the H&R race springs (stage 3). Now I have to get them. I could go to a local mod
shop in my area, but they charge approx Cdn $380 (including
labour and taxes). Anybody know if I can get the springs
installed cheaper than that? I live in Vancouver, BC. If I can
buy the springs cheap, I might just take em to the shop and
pay them labour to install. Comments welcome!

Patrick

PS once I have em installed, I'll you all of you know how it turns
out
Old 07-28-2001 | 09:38 PM
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Talking H&R race springs installed!!!

Just got the H&R race springs installed this afternoon. Man,
can't believe the handling! You're right, HA 65MPH, handling
really good. I can't believe I can actually feel the road.

According to the mod shop, the springs will settle another
quarter of an inch in about 1 week's time. If need be, I will
take it in for alignment adjust.

No honking big wheel gap!

Definitely recommend race springs to all, as sport and OE
will not give that lowered look. Now, to save up for more
after market goodies!!!
Old 07-29-2001 | 06:57 AM
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I knew you would like them.... Post pics now...


Evan
Old 07-29-2001 | 12:52 PM
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Talking

HA 65MPH, yeah, as soon as I can get my hands on a digital
camera (earliest will probaby be mid next week). Hang on guys,
stock wheels with H&R race springs coming up!
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