Romeo1102012

Im excited guys! I bought the car with a rebuilt just 2 weeks ago. Took it into the dealership because it felt like it was downshifting and they offered up a new tranny free of charge! SO, I do have a question about this one! how can I prolong the life of this tranny so the same issue doesn't happen again? (assuming they dont put in the jet kit)

thanks in advance guys!

webmastir

they just flat out offered a new transmission? there's gotta be a piece of info you're leaving out. 1.) acura doesn't do that. 2.) they'll do everything in their power not to do that 3.) no way they still do that for such an old model(right?) 4.) did you get a warranty on the new trans? 5.) just thought i should add a #5

Skirmich

ROFL so they were in the Mood "Yay!! lets give away a New Tranny" ????

Unbelievable!! When mine went out They almost made a pact with the Devil so they would not Change It, In the end they did it when I said "OK, See you in Court" then the Mood change it to "Hey, Hold on maybe we can Do something"....


Regarding your Question:

1.- ATF Cooler
2.- Shorter ATF Changes
3.- Magnefine Inline Filter with #1.

The Jet Kit doesnt help the Problem you Main PRO, Is that they maybe Replace your old Unit with the Post+05 Version that its Improved and Said to be less Faulty...

Romeo1102012

Well, I left the car at Acura on friday because i was complaining about the SRS light being on. I proceeded to tell them that I knew about some type of recall... after that they told me about the power window, air bag and tranny recalls. I did mention after hearing that, that the car felt like it was pulling back around 20-30 mph. so they did tell me they would check and let me know what will be done by the end of the day. Got a call around 6 saying "we sent pics to corporate to see if they will give us the OK to fix, they didn't respond to us so we have to wait until monday". I said Alright no problem, what will you do to fix it? "Well we will open it up to see the damage, it doesn't sound to bad by what your describing so we might just put a jet kit in it and call it a day"

FFW to monday

after calling all morning with no response, they finally got back to me at 2 and told me that corporate gave the OK for a new tranny. they told me its worth the all day wait tomorrow because im getting a 6000$ brand new trans. for free. so hopefully its a remodeled trans. with a jet kit!

Skirmich

Even if its the newer version (Past 05) that Doesnt have the Jet Kit...
They were Kidding you in the 6K Part ROFL I bet I can get a Used TL Type-S for that Money...

Even Back in 07 (When Mine Fried) the total Change was around 3800 (Included Trans Past +05 + Labor) but I got them to do it by Warranty.

Romeo1102012

funny thing is... i copped it for 5,000

Romeo1102012

so there's no way that im gonna get a good tranny from them?

Skirmich

Nahh Odds are You might get the Past 05 Trans that is know to be less defective...
There is no Reason for them to Install a Remanu Original POS Trans, You will be back in No time and they Will have to Replace it Again.

Even if you Got the new past 05, Its not a bad Practice to Install the ATF Cooler + Magnefine Filter.

jra8858

How many miles you got on your tl romeo?

Romeo1102012

is that stuff needed to be installed by a mechanic? i have no idea what any of that stuff is, im really illiterate when i comes to cars... i signed up to learn! lol

Romeo1102012

135,000

Skirmich

Both Stuff are Really easy to Install... Basically the Hardest Part is to Attach the Lines into the Transmission Itself but its hard just cuz of how deep they are.

Steps:
1.- Remove Front Bumper
2.- Attach Out Lines (Must be the Ones going into the Filter)
3.- Route your ATF Line into the Bumper
4.- Install Magnefine Inline Filter into the ATF Line (Secure the Magnefine Filter close to Grill w/Zip Ties so its Easy to Replace!)
5.- Install the ATF Cooler securing it with some Zip Ties
6.- Route ATF Return Line
7.- Attach Return Line into the Transmission
8.- Check EVERYTHING you Just Did.
9.- Turn On your Car and Check for Leaks
10.- Re-Install Bumper
11.- Go for a Drive and Fill ATF if Needed.

DONE!

Romeo1102012

thanks man! ill most definitely try this when i get my car back

Skirmich

Heres a Detailed DIY with Pics:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/184466...ura-tl/page-21

INSPIRE 32V

iTrader: (1)

135k miles with a car that's a decade old they are doing this under warranty.....

WTF am i missing here

MiddleAgeCrisis

Second-hand car warranty?

dreem1er

iTrader: (2)

yea i tried that i even had my attorney..(my cousin)...call them, i called acura services the dealer still told to go fuck myself 20% is all they do... only the thing i was able to do was get my car out of their lot without paying storage fees

Gfaze

Honestly it's pointless to install a cooler. It doesn't help with the real problem which is lack of fluid to the 3rd gear clutch packs, not fluid temperature.

As for the reliability of the replacement transmissions, mine was replaced at 75K miles a few years ago. I've now got 140K miles and still going fine. On rare occasions I get an odd shift but other than that, the car runs great.

Skirmich

ATF cooler is to Lower the Temps coused by the Heat produced by the Lack of Fluid going into the Clutch Pad. Besides LACK is not the Same as NOT GETTING ANY.

IMO: Heat its a Problem too for this transmissions Add to the Lack of Fluid going into the Clutch pad couses more Heat in the Metals which = Weakens the Oil = Speed up Clutch Sllippeage = Dead Trans.


In Short: ATF Cooler is not to Bulletproof the Transmission. Is to Longer the ATF Service Life.

Karanx7

iTrader: (2)

My guess is that the issue was the 2nd gear burnout.

There was NO recall on the main tranny issue, the 3rd gear slip. There was only a warranty extension.

There WAS a recall on the 2nd gear burning out, potentially causing you to slam down gears on the highway.

If you have 500k miles on the car, you can get a new trans if they see there is damage on the Recall part.

I have yet to see anyone on AZine have this problem, so this is only a possibility.

01tl4tl

OK here is the real stoy if you read between the lines and understand acura:

WE HAVE TO SEND PIC TO CORP
that means this car NEVER had the recall, they removed the filler cap
and photgraph the top of 2nd gear with a camera acura provides

If the `correct heat damage` is present- it gets a free rebuilt in a post 05 case trans!
they dont use pre 05 cases anymore--all melted down and repurposed

this car never had any of the recalls taken care of- and in this case= scored a trans!

The scary part: reason they are swapping the trans is that heat damage can and has led to snapping of 2nd gear and its shaft while at freeway speed
= bringing the car to a rather abupt halt

best thing is leave the trans alone
in 5000 miles change the fluid,,honda uses its own `dw-1`
then every year change half or all the fluid thru drain and refill method

no real need for cooler,,an extra filter wont hurt
and dont forget the trans has an external filter most neglect,,then add extra ones~

Romeo1102012

Got my car back yesterday, they gave me a whole remodeled trans. so everything looks to be ok! shifting is a breeze! no clunking noise no nothing. its great! i gotta say

"Acura A+ company"

webmastir

You'll eventually eat those words, but congrats to you who got a 1 in a million offer from them.

Romeo1102012

Really why is that?? by the way, thank you! the bill turned out to be 6126$ all covered by acura

webmastir

It's cool. You're still new to your Acura, and you'll find out soon enough that going to the stealership will drain your pocketbook. Check out the DIY in your free time. There's some good write-ups if you're in to that stuff.

Romeo1102012

OH, absolutely, I would never go there for mechanic work! 150 an hour?? yeah OK. I mean A+ company for honoring their recalls without hassle. As far as the DIY thread, I have been looking at it recently and looks like a great cash saver.

01tl4tl

recalls are government mandated and tracked so every vin is accounted for
This one is a major safety issue- there were cars snapping the 2nd gear shaft
or breaking the gear- from heat stress
it wasnt getting any oil

There are pics here of the damage they look for when the car is in for the recall
If it has the heat damage- its no good as a trans-
they cannot do the recall install because its already got the problem...
spraying oil on it wont help at this point
It can still snap
and the sudden downshift into 2nd at 70mph,,or total lockup of wheels
sending the car spinning across the road,,,its happened,,more than once

even though it had high miles and many years since the recall was issued--
its still a recall and they must honor it!
you got a free `rebuilt with new and old parts` replacement, and the new PCM/ecu that some vins required
thats why higher price

in 6 months start changing the atf! keep on it every year
congrats again

01tl4tl

the dealer gets paid for all warranty/recall work
what they showed you was a made-up retail receipt,,
they use a seperate work order and lower labor rate with corp

YeuEmMaiMai

nope, won't work ATF is cooked when it is INSIDE the clutch pack and then temps exceede 315F....damage is done at that point.....

YeuEmMaiMai

I got the post 05 trans (done in 08) and I have had to change my fliuid 3x within 40K and I am easy on the car.....

01tl4tl

most of us suggest every year/15kmiles do at least a 1 x drain and refill of 3.4 qts
on honda dw1 fluid
Keep problems away
40k before change,,shift issues..3 changes in 40k,,good maitenance

if your budget allows, a single drain and refill 3.4 qts with every oil change
at 7500 miles certainly wont hurt!

annual full capacity (7.3) change would probably make trans very happy

YeuEmMaiMai

when I change it, the fluid is actually BROWN and that is evey 10K....with the new "improved" trans and I use whatever acura has available. is this DW1 fluid a new one?