VoLLy

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My Rotora's are warping and thanks to a seized caliper bolt, my rear Rotora disc is scratched to s**t.

I am going to the the RacingBrake 1pc Rotors in the front along with the StopTech/Centric Rotors in the back.

I originally wanted to get the Akebono ProACT Ceramic Pads in the front with Satisfied Pro Ceramic for the back.

However should I buy the RacingBrake ET300 Front pads to go along with the rotor?

As for the rear pads im going for the Satisfied Pro Ceramics.

SLAKERZ

I have the same setup except with the ET300 pads front and rear. They've served me really well for about 4,000 miles now.

For installation, check with Mr. Heeltoe to see if they've resolved the issue with the pads having an extra tab that got in the way of the brake piston and needed to be filed off. I'm pretty sure they've been resolved by now though.

I'm sure Tom can chime in with his valuable input >)

bibledriver

Even if tab is there, it is an easy fix.

I have the setup you described with 2piece up front though, and ET300's all around. They are excellent.

On my wifes car (3G), I have the one piece with OEM pads. They are also superior.

RB is makes great brakes.

SodaLuvr

Bendix CT-3 pads can be ordered from autobarn.net and they'll probably give you performance similar to Hawk HPS but without the noise. They also come with a one-time free replacement certificate in the box.

01tl4tl will have to tell you more about the ET300 pads, I know nothing about them.

01tl4tl

Actually I am going to try a set of et500s on the front of my car soon, another ziner has some near me, so I need to do a test drive comparison
Had HPS then ET300....5000 miles on each as fair test

RB found that there were no pads on the market that matched the abilty of their rotor- so they make their own now!!
ET300 is for normal human street drivers- I have those on the back with kragen rotors.
5000+ miles on et300 on front with RB 1 piece rotor- excellent stopping, no noise- reasonable dust- kept to a minimum by waxing the rims,
For the more spirited type driver 500 front 300 rear
the pads work fine on other brands of rotors- just work best for their own matched sets

If the rear pad has a middle tab just grind it off flush- they are likely doing it at the factory now- thats the rear pads ONLY- also applies to Hawk pads of all compounds- same backing plate design- You can make a note of it on the order

Siezed rear caliper bolt caused scratching- what???
is the caliper bad- that happens when fluid not changed- happened on my 01TL on LF first, the others showed crud too so I replaced all the calipers - Legend dual piston units up front for exact same price as regular TL calipers- and a master cylinder.

I do drive in the overly spirited manner that would have some people biting the dashboard, thats what happens when you have nice mountain backroads to play on~

FirePR2002

I have basically the setup you're looking at - RBs up front and StopTech in the rear. I'm running ET500 pads on the front and HPS on the rear. The et500s bite hard on the RB rotors - I've been on them for about 1,500 miles or so. Let me know if you have specific questions or want to discuss further.

01tl4tl

Fire- you had the 300s before correct?- in what ways do the 500 bite harder
Is it a ~feeling~ or an improvement in braking? or stick with the 300?

FirePR2002

I had HPS up front before.

The ET500s bit VERY hard for the first 500 - 600 miles, then not quite as hard, but 132X harder than stock. The 500s have a better feel and are much smoother than the HPS, but I was having problems with the RB/HPS set-up and RB sent me these to try out.

I still get a squirrely (sp?) shake in the steering wheel from time to time, but nowhere near as bad before. I have also noticed a slight fade when braking hard - not what I expected with such a hard pad, but some of this could be a rotor issue.

The 500s create more dust than the HPS if you can believe it.

VoLLy

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Ok I got rid of the idea altogether. Not going with RB anymore, too race-y for me.

01tl4tl

ok then buy crap that warps and doesnt stop very well- its your life- literally

SodaLuvr

How is anything other than RB or Rotora, "crap?"

VoLLy

iTrader: (8)

haha.

I upgraded from Rotora, I ended up buying the EBC Ultimax BlackDash USR Slotted Rotors (F&R) with Akebono Street Performance Pads in the front and Satisfied Pro Ceramics for the rear.

01tl4tl

and THATS les race-y than RB?

Soda- chill dude- I am still waiting to see what brands you are comparing rb and similar to as you present the cheaper alternative thread
ebay has cheap rotors too!

VoLLy

iTrader: (8)

Yeah by the voice of MrHeelToe, he said that I NEEDED to get the ET500 pads for the RB 1 pc rotors and no other pads or else they would end up vibrating. The RB setup I was going to get was going to cost me about $550, I got the setup I mentioned above for about $300. I saw that RB has a ton of patented features, and it seemed to me like RacingBrake are for the track. It come down to the price for me.

Also, no one here has used the Ultimax BlackDash USR Slotted Rotors nor the Akebono Street Performance Pads, so I will be the pioneer and set foot in a new territory.

01tl4tl

no- they are great for track day use- and the technology developed in cooling for the race use brake rotors works awesome for spirited street use on the normal 1 piece rotors.
I would run whatever rotors in back- I do! with good pads and rotors on the front- a
If you drive like grandma you dont need them.
You found what you like- please report back after a few thousand miles on them for braking and dusting, so others will have another option- thats what this forum is about- sharing experience not just opinion from non users of a product~
Dust is a normal part of the physics of brake torque
Wax the rims while they are off for the brake job with a few coats of synthetic car wax, and the problem goes way down- too slippery for the scorching hot pad material to stay on the rim - thus attracting road grime and more pad bits

Soda- if you ever make it to a meet- I will take you on a fun run and demonstrate my brakes- we can ever sucker another car or TL waaaaaay too deep into the braking zone, hehehehehe- I will put my setup against a brembo equipped TL ----hows that?
My favorite sport?- bringing tailgaters in about 20 mph faster than they can possibly make the turn- lots of fun in the mirror- I really need a camera to record the excitement

01tl4tl

Mr HeelToe is trying -along with RB- to find a solution to a brake issue that some of us had with RB rotors- they are trying different compounds with a few of us as test subjects now- those that got a wierd vibration- it was oddly limited to gen2 TL-

I put new RB rotors on used 300 pads and the shake is gone completely
Another member is trying the 500pads on old rotors will limited improvement
'another is trying new rotors and the 500 pads
Soon the answer will be known- until then, a harder pad should remove any slight issues with runout or whatever is the root cause- thats why the 500 is being suggested

VoLLy

iTrader: (8)

yeah I will do. Ill post some pics also when I get em.


Yeah, I also didnt want to deal the grinding of that little raised metal (decorative?) groove or whatever it is to make the rear pads fit the caliper.

SLAKERZ

I get this "buzzing" vibration sometimes as well. I always thought it was because of the slots on the rotors. Interested to see what the verdict is. Hasn't affected the actual braking at all, so I can live with it. Better than dealing with warpage.

SodaLuvr

Not sure what you want me to say...I've said again and again that the rotors I recommended in the other thread will not be the same quality as RBs, but they are perfectly fine for most drivers.

01tl4tl

you said cheaper alternative found- I was thinking that meant something less than what kragen type stores charge for decent basic rotors- which were over $80 per when I looked months ago. Which is not much less than Rotora or RB-or EBC...all fine brands IMO
it was my misunderstanding of your intent of thread
AND I like to hassle you ---just for practice~

dope!

iTrader: (28)

dont mean to thread jak but SLAKERZ , do u travel the 405 by any chance? santa monica/culver city area? i think i saw you about 2 weeks ago, not sure though. if it was you..nice car man!

01tl4tl

dope- while I do thank you for finding the dent removal with dry ice trick
PLEASE PM members on personal matters!