Gas tank capacity on TL-S
06-28-2002, 12:15 PM
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Gas tank capacity on TL-S
Has anyone notice that the specs in the owner's manual says 18.5 gallon for fuel. I tried letting the fuel goes all the way down till the needle hits the "E" mark, when I fill her up, it would only take a little over 15 gallon ???
06-28-2002, 12:24 PM
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The 2002 capacity is 17.17 US gallons. The fuel light usually comes on with about 3 gallons in reserve. The gauge would definitely be on "E" and the light would be lit if you got 15 gallons in there.
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06-29-2002, 02:23 PM
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Guys,
On a side note... isn't running the fuel pump with low gas bad for it... I think the pump uses gas for lubrication....
I always fill up at the 1/8th mark and at the most inbettwen that and the "E". I like to play it safe.
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On a side note... isn't running the fuel pump with low gas bad for it... I think the pump uses gas for lubrication....
I always fill up at the 1/8th mark and at the most inbettwen that and the "E". I like to play it safe.
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06-29-2002, 09:03 PM
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On a side note... isn't running the fuel pump with low gas bad for it... I think the pump uses gas for lubrication....
06-30-2002, 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by T Ho
More importantly, the fuel pump is COOLED by the gas. If running to empty (I mean literally- not just close to E, but light on for 30 miles) is a habit, expect some service down the road.
More importantly, the fuel pump is COOLED by the gas. If running to empty (I mean literally- not just close to E, but light on for 30 miles) is a habit, expect some service down the road.
06-30-2002, 02:51 PM
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that makes no sense... if the fuel pump uses gas for cooling... which is something new to me, but if it does... as long as gas is running through it, it doesnt matter how much gas u have in the tank... gas is gas... u dont start running less gas when ur tank is down to 2 gallons
06-30-2002, 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by eCo
I've run out of gas twice now.
LOL The capacity on my '02 is much closer to 17 than 18, tho I'm sure there's some variabiliity there from car to car.
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I've run out of gas twice now.
LOL The capacity on my '02 is much closer to 17 than 18, tho I'm sure there's some variabiliity there from car to car. eCo
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Originally posted by T Ho
Of course, it makes sense. With a reasonable amount of gas in the tank, the fuel pump is IMMERSED in fuel, and as such, conducts its heat to the surrounding fuel in the tank. It's not the gas that goes through the pump that provides the majority of the cooling. The case temp of the fuel pump will be significantly higher when not immersed in gas.
Of course, it makes sense. With a reasonable amount of gas in the tank, the fuel pump is IMMERSED in fuel, and as such, conducts its heat to the surrounding fuel in the tank. It's not the gas that goes through the pump that provides the majority of the cooling. The case temp of the fuel pump will be significantly higher when not immersed in gas.
Many manufactures submerge the fuel pump in the tank for this exact reason, and while running it down to fumes a couple of times won't hurt much, constantly running on E *could* shorten the life of the fuel pump. I stress the word could because I don't know of anyone who ever had to replace one....
07-01-2002, 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by copland007
The most I have even pumped into the tank was 17.559 and that was pushing it, I think if I wouldn't have found that gas station I would have been walking, hehe
The most I have even pumped into the tank was 17.559 and that was pushing it, I think if I wouldn't have found that gas station I would have been walking, hehe
This is straight from the Acura Owner's Link web site (and also confirmed in the Helms manual) for 2002 Models:
Capacities
Engine Oil with Filter: 4.6 US quarts
Fuel Tank: 17.2 U.S. gallons (65.0 liters)
Cooling System: 7.8 U.S. quarts (7.5 liters)
Engine Oil with Filter: 4.6 US quarts
Fuel Tank: 17.2 U.S. gallons (65.0 liters)
Cooling System: 7.8 U.S. quarts (7.5 liters)
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Originally posted by pianoman41
Damn Matt, you must have had the gas pushing against the gas cap door. This is straight from the Acura Owner's Link web site (and also confirmed in the Helms manual) for 2002 Models:
Damn Matt, you must have had the gas pushing against the gas cap door.
This is straight from the Acura Owner's Link web site (and also confirmed in the Helms manual) for 2002 Models:Yah, it is very possible the cutoff on the fuel pump didn't stop soon enough. I have been to a few gas stations around here where it hasn't auto-shut off and gas gets poured down the side of the car (and me!). But that hasn't happened in a while, those are back in the good ol' days with the Geo, hehe.
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isnt this terrible for everything!!
I have a hard time believing the fuel pump needs to exchange heat with the surrounding fuel for reliability. For one thing, the power duty on this kind of pump is tiny. As a consequence the heat produced will be miniscule and should be trivial to dissipate - either in air or fuel. Lastly, assuming the temp did rise a tad at low gas levels, those parts would have to really be crap to not withstand a very modest elevation in temperature for the few minutes you could run like that.
But thanks for your concern.
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07-01-2002, 05:25 PM
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But thanks for your concern.
07-02-2002, 12:46 AM
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Originally posted by eCo
I have a hard time believing the fuel pump needs to exchange heat with the surrounding fuel for reliability. For one thing, the power duty on this kind of pump is tiny. As a consequence the heat produced will be miniscule and should be trivial to dissipate - either in air or fuel. Lastly, assuming the temp did rise a tad at low gas levels, those parts would have to really be crap to not withstand a very modest elevation in temperature for the few minutes you could run like that.
I have a hard time believing the fuel pump needs to exchange heat with the surrounding fuel for reliability. For one thing, the power duty on this kind of pump is tiny. As a consequence the heat produced will be miniscule and should be trivial to dissipate - either in air or fuel. Lastly, assuming the temp did rise a tad at low gas levels, those parts would have to really be crap to not withstand a very modest elevation in temperature for the few minutes you could run like that.
Never attempt to bench test a new or old pump. In-tank pumps use fuel for cooling and lubrication. Running one while dry will quickly damage it.
Also note, try not to run fuel under 1/4 of a tank. Most pumps are in the gas tank and run cooler with fuel above 1/4 tank. This also helps to extend the life of you fuel pump. This also helps keep the screens in the injector clean.
07-02-2002, 11:19 AM
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Take a quick look at this article from Popular Mechanics on how to properly replace an in-tank fuel pump. Last paragraph in the "Pump Out" section:
Or this article from an A.S.E. certified mechanic.
I'm sorry, but I still think this a non-issue. Call it a mech. engineer's intuition.
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