G-Tech Pro runs (a little long)
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I've owned a GTech Pro for about a month now, and I've been using it several times a week. I thought I'd share some of my findings.
First of all, I have a 2000 TL-P. Only modification is H&R Sport Springs. All runs have been made late at night
on chilly roads (outside temp about 35-40). The only measurement I ever really care about is 0-60, so that's all I'll discuss. All runs were in Sportshift mode.
My first run, I didn't really punch it because I knew I would probably spin. I got 7.4.. I was expecting over 8 seconds on a very very conservative launch so this was a surprise. 7.4 seconds without trying!
That piqued my interest, so the next few times I tried harder and got 7.1. In fact, 7.1 is a time I got very consistently for quite a while. One time, I got as low as 6.86.
A lot of guys on this forum advise "just stomping it." Well, that may be OK if you have sticky tires and a nice warm track.. but I tried it once and just SPUUNNNN the tires (EEEERRRRRR!!!!!) No good. Maybe when it gets warmer out...
Well, last night I decided to try something new. I decided to try this:
1) Start from a stop, zero the GTech Pro
2) Touch the trottle lightly to get the car rolling
3) Once rolling for a fraction of a second, STOMP IT
My first run got me 6.79! I knew I could do better, so I tried again. 6.75! And that was with ZERO wheel spin. (Z-E-R-O)
Conclusion so far: the launch is very important and has a significant impact on the 0-60 times. I would never have realised this without the help of a GTech Pro.
So next, I'm going to work on trying different launches. I don't feel that the 6.75 time was the lowest I can go - I believe that because my launch was still conservative. I think that by just working on my technique I can trim off another 1/10th of a second or more.
Those good runs above, I was concentrating too much on NOT making the wheels spin. By just focusing on how fast I put the pedal to the floor, I know I can get better times.
I haven't tried torque braking yet, and probably won't even bother if I start hitting 6.6.
If anyone is interested, I'll continue sharing my findings as I work on my launch. If you are interested in lowering your times, I STRONGLY suggest that you buy a GTech Pro. I have learned a great deal just by using it several times, much more than trying to learn technique by reading second hand. GTech Pro provides instant feedback, so you know if what you are trying is good or bad. It is invaluable!
One more note about the GTech Pro, if you're not sold yet. If you're wondering "should I get one? Or maybe not?" consider this: I trimmed off 4/10's of a second just by learning good technique. I'd need around 40HP more to do the equivalent with mods! So $140 is a steal. Personally, I got mine cheap of ebay![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
OK long post. Sorry.
First of all, I have a 2000 TL-P. Only modification is H&R Sport Springs. All runs have been made late at night
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My first run, I didn't really punch it because I knew I would probably spin. I got 7.4.. I was expecting over 8 seconds on a very very conservative launch so this was a surprise. 7.4 seconds without trying!
That piqued my interest, so the next few times I tried harder and got 7.1. In fact, 7.1 is a time I got very consistently for quite a while. One time, I got as low as 6.86.
A lot of guys on this forum advise "just stomping it." Well, that may be OK if you have sticky tires and a nice warm track.. but I tried it once and just SPUUNNNN the tires (EEEERRRRRR!!!!!) No good. Maybe when it gets warmer out...
Well, last night I decided to try something new. I decided to try this:
1) Start from a stop, zero the GTech Pro
2) Touch the trottle lightly to get the car rolling
3) Once rolling for a fraction of a second, STOMP IT
My first run got me 6.79! I knew I could do better, so I tried again. 6.75! And that was with ZERO wheel spin. (Z-E-R-O)
Conclusion so far: the launch is very important and has a significant impact on the 0-60 times. I would never have realised this without the help of a GTech Pro.
So next, I'm going to work on trying different launches. I don't feel that the 6.75 time was the lowest I can go - I believe that because my launch was still conservative. I think that by just working on my technique I can trim off another 1/10th of a second or more.
Those good runs above, I was concentrating too much on NOT making the wheels spin. By just focusing on how fast I put the pedal to the floor, I know I can get better times.
I haven't tried torque braking yet, and probably won't even bother if I start hitting 6.6.
If anyone is interested, I'll continue sharing my findings as I work on my launch. If you are interested in lowering your times, I STRONGLY suggest that you buy a GTech Pro. I have learned a great deal just by using it several times, much more than trying to learn technique by reading second hand. GTech Pro provides instant feedback, so you know if what you are trying is good or bad. It is invaluable!
One more note about the GTech Pro, if you're not sold yet. If you're wondering "should I get one? Or maybe not?" consider this: I trimmed off 4/10's of a second just by learning good technique. I'd need around 40HP more to do the equivalent with mods! So $140 is a steal. Personally, I got mine cheap of ebay
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Some how it did turn into an ad for GTech Pro
I didn't mean it that way; I meant it to advocate getting out there and actually measuring your performance rather than looking at magazine times or whatever.
You can read all about GTech Pros HERE
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I have a 200 tl-p g-teched it in the summer. Bone Stock ran a 15.4. 1 passenger in the car either 5.4 or 5.7 0-60 can't remember. Lot's of wheelspin at launch ( I think it's from the stock tires, more for comfort than performance) Just installed cai before I put it away for the winter will post my results when I run it with cai.
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Tried using my G-Tech on a skidpad a few months ago. I pulled .91Gs in my NSX using street tires after they had cooled down. I'm gonna try it again next week after running a few laps on a track to warm them up and see if I can get it a bit higher.
Don't know if it's accurate, but it's closer than guessing.
Don't know if it's accurate, but it's closer than guessing.
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Originally posted by Dbone
I have a 200 tl-p g-teched it in the summer. Bone Stock ran a 15.4. 1 passenger in the car either 5.4 or 5.7 0-60 can't remember. Lot's of wheelspin at launch ( I think it's from the stock tires, more for comfort than performance) Just installed cai before I put it away for the winter will post my results when I run it with cai.
I have a 200 tl-p g-teched it in the summer. Bone Stock ran a 15.4. 1 passenger in the car either 5.4 or 5.7 0-60 can't remember. Lot's of wheelspin at launch ( I think it's from the stock tires, more for comfort than performance) Just installed cai before I put it away for the winter will post my results when I run it with cai.
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I waiting for this www.gtechpro.com/competition.html
That is a mofo. I hope the price is reasonable.
That is a mofo. I hope the price is reasonable.
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Originally posted by Dbone
I have a 200 tl-p g-teched it in the summer. Bone Stock ran a 15.4. 1 passenger in the car either 5.4 or 5.7 0-60 can't remember. Lot's of wheelspin at launch ( I think it's from the stock tires, more for comfort than performance) Just installed cai before I put it away for the winter will post my results when I run it with cai.
I have a 200 tl-p g-teched it in the summer. Bone Stock ran a 15.4. 1 passenger in the car either 5.4 or 5.7 0-60 can't remember. Lot's of wheelspin at launch ( I think it's from the stock tires, more for comfort than performance) Just installed cai before I put it away for the winter will post my results when I run it with cai.
Gtech's don't give very reliable times as far as I know.
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Originally posted by Dbone
I have a 200 tl-p g-teched it in the summer. Bone Stock ran a 15.4. 1 passenger in the car either 5.4 or 5.7 0-60 can't remember. Lot's of wheelspin at launch ( I think it's from the stock tires, more for comfort than performance) Just installed cai before I put it away for the winter will post my results when I run it with cai.
I have a 200 tl-p g-teched it in the summer. Bone Stock ran a 15.4. 1 passenger in the car either 5.4 or 5.7 0-60 can't remember. Lot's of wheelspin at launch ( I think it's from the stock tires, more for comfort than performance) Just installed cai before I put it away for the winter will post my results when I run it with cai.
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So can you please clear this up for the rest of us.
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Now that all of u are questioning the 0-60 in the 5's I'm sure it was a 6.4 or 6.7 but like I said I ran a 15.4 quarter mile on the gtech and that's what I gteched it four the quarter mile and not the 0-60. So get off my case ::p :p
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Originally posted by Dbone
I have a 200 tl-p g-teched it in the summer. Bone Stock ran a 15.4. 1 passenger in the car either 5.4 or 5.7 0-60 can't remember. Lot's of wheelspin at launch ( I think it's from the stock tires, more for comfort than performance) Just installed cai before I put it away for the winter will post my results when I run it with cai.
I have a 200 tl-p g-teched it in the summer. Bone Stock ran a 15.4. 1 passenger in the car either 5.4 or 5.7 0-60 can't remember. Lot's of wheelspin at launch ( I think it's from the stock tires, more for comfort than performance) Just installed cai before I put it away for the winter will post my results when I run it with cai.
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I think Torque brake will help.
and if you manually shift from 1-2-D3 will allow you to hit a higher rpm in 1st gear, although I don't think it will actually reduce the peak hp had already occur in lower rpm...
If you got the time, please try troque brake, I will love to know the result... and perhaps different rpm, too... like 2000, 2500, 3000 rpm...
and if you manually shift from 1-2-D3 will allow you to hit a higher rpm in 1st gear, although I don't think it will actually reduce the peak hp had already occur in lower rpm...
If you got the time, please try troque brake, I will love to know the result... and perhaps different rpm, too... like 2000, 2500, 3000 rpm...
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I think 15.4 1/4 mile time should give you a good idea abou the accuracy of GTECH...
With I/H/E/VAFC, you couldn't hit 1/4 in 15.4 by yourself, let alone a passenger.
I believe you did get those readings as I got high 13's for my auto 540 before I put anything in it.
With I/H/E/VAFC, you couldn't hit 1/4 in 15.4 by yourself, let alone a passenger.
I believe you did get those readings as I got high 13's for my auto 540 before I put anything in it.
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Originally posted by AC
I think 15.4 1/4 mile time should give you a good idea abou the accuracy of GTECH...
With I/H/E/VAFC, you couldn't hit 1/4 in 15.4 by yourself, let alone a passenger.
I believe you did get those readings as I got high 13's for my auto 540 before I put anything in it.
I think 15.4 1/4 mile time should give you a good idea abou the accuracy of GTECH...
With I/H/E/VAFC, you couldn't hit 1/4 in 15.4 by yourself, let alone a passenger.
I believe you did get those readings as I got high 13's for my auto 540 before I put anything in it.
As far as the accuracy goes, the gtech is very sensitive to things like inclined roads, obviously.. but people who have run them at a 1/4 mile track (do a search on google.com) have found them to be as accurate as advertised (within .1 sec).
No matter to me though; the greatest benefit I've found is not that it's 100% accurate. I'm impressed that it allowed me to run the same test over and over and allow me to judge whether a change in technique (and soon, an engine mod
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Originally posted by mentl
No matter to me though; the greatest benefit I've found is not that it's 100% accurate. I'm impressed that it allowed me to run the same test over and over and allow me to judge whether a change in technique (and soon, an engine mod
) improves or degrades performance. (in other words, it's not the absolute values I care about, only the deltas)
No matter to me though; the greatest benefit I've found is not that it's 100% accurate. I'm impressed that it allowed me to run the same test over and over and allow me to judge whether a change in technique (and soon, an engine mod
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