just a thought. is there no way of getting a honda sign in place of the Acura sign in the front grill of a 99' tl? i wanted to do jdm conversion but i have not seen any options for the front grille besides mugen or custom. Any suggestions?

 

Don't down grade your car by putting a "H" on it. That's just my

 

haha once i got a ticket for parking in the wrong spot and it said "honda accord"....oh well but is there a way to get an H on there?

 

You can buy a Mugen grill and put an H on it. Or you can leave the A and not ruin your Acura by making it a Honda

 

 

I honestly could care less about how people say I have "downgraded" my car.

 

How is that a down grade.What does a acura have that a honda doesn't.If we were talking about Lexus and Toyota or Nissan and Infiniti,I would see your point.

 

^Class my friend. If you want to put things in that perspective what's the point of manufacturing then??? Also we're talking about Acura and Honda so there's the point. There's a big difference.

 

You still have not told me the differences. Honda sells the whole Acura line as Hondas in Japan for less. They put an "A" on it and TELL us it's better. They have not really created a more luxurious car. All they did was bring some Japan models here and put an "A" on it. How smart does that make us as Americans? I'll tell you one thing, I fell for it. I can see a difference in luxury when you compare a Toyota and Lexus....Take a fully loaded accord and tl, the difference...Acura really needs to step there level of luxury up some. They can't compete with Lexus or Infiniti. The whole JDM thing is not for every one. If you don't like it,thats fine but don't criticize.

 

Dude, what does it matter what our cars are sold as in other parts of the world? You don't live there. You live here, where Acura is the premium brand of Honda.

If you really don't think there's no difference between Acura and Honda, go valet an Accord and a TL together. Guess who's going to get the better spot out front? (Well, assuming there's no Ferraris or Bentleys rolling up.)

You're comparing USDM Acura to JDM Honda. That's stupid. They are totally differnet markets. Now if USDM Acura was sold as JDM Acura for less, then it would be stupid for us to fall for it. But comparing USDM Acura to a brand that doesn't even exist in Japan? First off, you don't live in Japan. Second, Japan doesn't have Acura. Thus it's not a valid comparison.

 

 

Forget the whole Acura vs. Honda things, Why do you want the H instead of the A anyway?

 

To each their own, can't we all just leave it at that? By the way, I have the JDM conversion because its cool!

 

Umm, you do realize that in Japan, Lexus cars are sold under the Toyota name and Infiniti is sold under the Nissan name right?

The Lexus IS300 is the Toyota Altezza in Japan, the Infiniti G35 Coupe is the Nissan Skyline in Japan (not the Skyline GT-R) ... there are pretty much matches for every Infiniti in the JDM Nissan lineup and the same for JDM Toyota/USDM Lexus. The TL isn't marketed as the Honda Accord in Japan, the 2nd gen TL is marketed as both the Honda Inspire and Honda Sabre in Japan, pretty much the same exact cars both targeted at the luxury market but in different marketplaces.

Honda was the first to market their luxury automobiles in the USA with a different "luxury brand" name, but both Toyota and Nissan quickly followed.

Infiniti had the I35 which was more of a rebadged Maxima than the TL is a rebadged Accord. Lexus does a better job trying not to rebadge but you can see where their cars share the same platform when you look at the Camry/Avalon and the ES300.

If you want to compare a fully loaded Accord to the TL, lets compare the 2nd Gen TL (99-03) to the 6th(?) Gen Accord (98-02)...

Accord - Looks the same no matter what, the 4cyl $16k version to the $25k fully loaded Accord EX v6. 200hp 3.0L v6, no heated seats, no in dash changer, 4 speed automatic w/o SportShift, 15" Alloy wheels, average quality leather seats, traction control only, 6-speaker non-BOSE audio, no On-Star, no heated side view mirrors, no cup holders (?? couldnt find a picture of an accord with cup holders and it isnt mentioned in the features), 4-wheel multi-link suspension, no-HID headlights, no memory seats or memory side view mirrors, no auto-dimming rear view mirror

TL - Looks different than the Accord, immediately says the car is a luxury vehicle versus the Accord, Heated Seats, optional GPS Navigation, 3.2L v6 (225hp or 260hp in Type S), 5 speed automatic with Sport Shift and Grade-Logic control (4 speed with Sport Shift in '99), 16" Alloy Wheels (17" Alloys on Type S model), Higher quality leather seats, Vehicle Stability Assist available for Type S model, 6 speaker BOSE Audio with subwoofer, On-Star Available for 2003 models with Navigation, heated side view mirrors, cup holders, 4-wheel independant suspension, HID headlights, Memory seats with seat position, and side-view mirror position, auto-dimming rear view mirror, increased room inside for passengers and drivers

There's probably even more features listed here that I failed to mention ... But as you can tell from this list, there's more to the TL than just being an Accord clone. If you were comparing a fully loaded Maxima to a I35 I would agree with you, but in this case I believe the TL offers more in terms of luxury features than a fully loaded Accord can.

Oh - To stay on topic, I believe you can find JDM parts for your Honda Inspire from both www.kingmotorsports.com and www.aj-racing.com

 

Nicely said

 

SHIMBO519 >>>>> loved how you painted the chrome outer part of the grille to the SSM color... i want to do that... where you get it done?? i see you in Jersey-- i got o jersey like almost every wekend... i dotn mind comin out there

 

JDM Conversion

 

wsup, i got it done by a bodyshop up near my school(up-upstate NY). There are plenty of bodyshops in NJ and NYC that will do it.

 

IMO, it's YOUR car, so do what YOU want to it.

You're doing these mods for yourself, not for anyone else, so be happy and do what you like.

 

 

damn songoku! where ya been?

 

wow havn't seen songoku on the boards in a long time. That's the saber grill right?

 

IMO- putting a honda logo on an acura IS downgrading.....the reason you MIGHT say that nissan isn't like infiniti, and you MIGHT be right, is because acura is dumb....they SHOULD make their cars as good as infiniti's and their hondas like nissans. acura's behind. i'd rather buy an infiniti than an acura. my opinion....

 

I just upgraded and put my acura emblem back on.Maybe I should upgrade again and put a benz emblem on my tl.If your going to upgrade,go all the way.

 

 

for the ppl who ask why put a "H" emblem on their TL, well i think heres the answer

ppl are into customizing their cars in different styles...theirs all types of styles: JDM style, drifter style, VIP style, etc....ppl that are into the JDM craze want their cars to be as Japanese as it can get

lets say you own a civic hatch all JDM'd out, are you gonna put on a JDM intake with less power gains or a AEM with more power gains? if your into the JDM theme then youd go with the JDM intake even if that means sacrificing for less power

so with the TL's these JDM fanatics dont give a crap if others think it downgrades the car, its all about the theme and style in which they're making their cars

 

Thank you

 

reviving the dead, anyways, instead of everyone posting there own opinion on this matter, why cant you guys just help the guy out? plus.. id like to know too..

 

If your were in JAPN it would be cool. But here in North America, its kind of stupid. :gheyfight:

 

I already posted the link to where to buy a new "H" grille, but incase someone didn't see it already here it is again:

http://www.aj-racing.com/pages.php?page_id=jdm-ua5

I even linked directly (well as direct as possible) to it this time. Cost for the new grill is $70.13 USD

 

If we were in japan i wouldnt be looking for the H, i would already have it

 

close, but thats for 02-03, i have an 01