Front end clunking. Figured out what it was.
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Front end clunking. Figured out what it was.
While driving over bumps and rough roads ive heard it and its drove me nuts. I had a mechanic look into it once too. So its caused me to spend countless hours looking and replacing parts and i finally found it. Others that have it and havent figured out what it is need to look at the power steering rack. Yep thats right. I finally put 2 and 2 together, especially after having replaced all ball joints up front. I have noticed uneven tire wear like toe out of spec or camber but alignment is spot on. I also noticed while turning it doesnt do it. So after a hour or so of yanking and prying and digging into things i discovered its the rack.
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wow- what a thrillseeker-- driving with loose battery!!-
never had a hot terminal hit metal ground before have you!
happened on my truck- lots of fun rewiring half the engine compartment
how many miles now kris, 250k?
so what would the average person expect? 100 150k before rack probs?
Do you think changing the fluid will help, or is it a wearout issue?
never had a hot terminal hit metal ground before have you!
happened on my truck- lots of fun rewiring half the engine compartment
how many miles now kris, 250k?
so what would the average person expect? 100 150k before rack probs?
Do you think changing the fluid will help, or is it a wearout issue?
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
wow- what a thrillseeker-- driving with loose battery!!-
never had a hot terminal hit metal ground before have you!
happened on my truck- lots of fun rewiring half the engine compartment
how many miles now kris, 250k?
so what would the average person expect? 100 150k before rack probs?
Do you think changing the fluid will help, or is it a wearout issue?
never had a hot terminal hit metal ground before have you!
happened on my truck- lots of fun rewiring half the engine compartment
how many miles now kris, 250k?
so what would the average person expect? 100 150k before rack probs?
Do you think changing the fluid will help, or is it a wearout issue?
guess ill go find a battery tie. i dont wanna be rewiring...
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Originally Posted by Vim0314
pics of the rack? i think i have the same problem... i always though it was the battery since i dont have anything holding it down... thx
Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
wow- what a thrillseeker-- driving with loose battery!!-
never had a hot terminal hit metal ground before have you!
happened on my truck- lots of fun rewiring half the engine compartment
how many miles now kris, 250k?
so what would the average person expect? 100 150k before rack probs?
Do you think changing the fluid will help, or is it a wearout issue?
never had a hot terminal hit metal ground before have you!
happened on my truck- lots of fun rewiring half the engine compartment
how many miles now kris, 250k?
so what would the average person expect? 100 150k before rack probs?
Do you think changing the fluid will help, or is it a wearout issue?
Originally Posted by rob-2
I think I have the same problem, do you have to replace the rack?
Originally Posted by acutee
What was wrong with your power steering rack? how did you fix it? something was broken or something was loose?
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They arent cheap Ill tell you that. Its like 690 - 530(using the http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/...catdisplay.jsp site) new for the type-s. I may try to locate a used one.
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well i dont have any problems with my power steering right now. and my car is only 88k. plus i targeted it to only the FR thats creaking not clunking like yours. but ill keep this in mind.
i dont think mine is shocks cause it doesnt really creak then i jack the car up or go over bumps in the road. just at slow speed is when you hear it most, when the body of the car is moving. when accel, breaking and crawling over speed bumps. i can even hear it when pulling in to the garage, its quite loud.
i dont think mine is shocks cause it doesnt really creak then i jack the car up or go over bumps in the road. just at slow speed is when you hear it most, when the body of the car is moving. when accel, breaking and crawling over speed bumps. i can even hear it when pulling in to the garage, its quite loud.
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Originally Posted by rp_guy
fyi i had a clunking, but it was from my strut telling me it was gonna blow
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Originally Posted by aznboi2424
well i dont have any problems with my power steering right now. and my car is only 88k. plus i targeted it to only the FR thats creaking not clunking like yours. but ill keep this in mind.
i dont think mine is shocks cause it doesnt really creak then i jack the car up or go over bumps in the road. just at slow speed is when you hear it most, when the body of the car is moving. when accel, breaking and crawling over speed bumps. i can even hear it when pulling in to the garage, its quite loud.
i dont think mine is shocks cause it doesnt really creak then i jack the car up or go over bumps in the road. just at slow speed is when you hear it most, when the body of the car is moving. when accel, breaking and crawling over speed bumps. i can even hear it when pulling in to the garage, its quite loud.
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Kris, you're probably 10 steps ahead of me, but can you tell if it's the inner tie rod/ball socket? I've had them be tight with the wheels hanging down, and show up loose on the ground. They also tighten on turns because of the angle. It's easiest to check on alignment turntables, or by disconnecting the outers and putting the tie rod in line with the rack. I've replaced plenty on other cars, but pretty rare on hondas. If it is this, you can usually change them without pulling the rack.
You can get a good reman rack for around $300.00
You can get a good reman rack for around $300.00
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Kris, you're probably 10 steps ahead of me, but can you tell if it's the inner tie rod/ball socket? I've had them be tight with the wheels hanging down, and show up loose on the ground. They also tighten on turns because of the angle. It's easiest to check on alignment turntables, or by disconnecting the outers and putting the tie rod in line with the rack. I've replaced plenty on other cars, but pretty rare on hondas. If it is this, you can usually change them without pulling the rack.
You can get a good reman rack for around $300.00
You can get a good reman rack for around $300.00
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Jack up the car and get a spray lube of somesort (if you can find something thick(i cant remember off the top of my head right now which brand has it but its out there) spray the coils and let the car down. See if that stops it. If it does get the MDX coil isolators from the dealer and install them on your springs
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Originally Posted by TLer trash
Kris, you're probably 10 steps ahead of me, but can you tell if it's the inner tie rod/ball socket? I've had them be tight with the wheels hanging down, and show up loose on the ground. They also tighten on turns because of the angle. It's easiest to check on alignment turntables, or by disconnecting the outers and putting the tie rod in line with the rack. I've replaced plenty on other cars, but pretty rare on hondas. If it is this, you can usually change them without pulling the rack.
You can get a good reman rack for around $300.00
You can get a good reman rack for around $300.00
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about the wierd tire wear my pass front wears more on the outter side like alignment is off but its on point. could i be having the same issue? i just rolled over 112,000. i dunno i get some weird noises from the front end sometimes but it sounds like a bad shock or strut (since they have never been replaced im sure they are shot at 112k) but thats why im saving for the TEIN SS. but seriously ive been stumped on this tire wear for a while now.
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Originally Posted by pizz419
about the wierd tire wear my pass front wears more on the outter side like alignment is off but its on point. could i be having the same issue? i just rolled over 112,000. i dunno i get some weird noises from the front end sometimes but it sounds like a bad shock or strut (since they have never been replaced im sure they are shot at 112k) but thats why im saving for the TEIN SS. but seriously ive been stumped on this tire wear for a while now.
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Originally Posted by acutee
Can you live with the noise and keep on driving until it broke, or it is something it has to be replaced to avoid other related damages?
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
My wear is on the passenger side front inside. Im leaning towards under rolling pressure there is enough force to pull the toe out to cause the wear. Ive always had wear on that tire (minimal) but it was always there and i could never figure it out.
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Have an alignment shop inspect the rack and tierod ends for play.
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Kris,
I have the same problem since a few months now. It's drive me nut sometime. I noticed that in the morning time driving through the rough road is very smooth (except 5mph speed bump) , only after like 10min of street driving with a few turns/brake/accelerate that I can hear the clunksy on both front tire. Stucks are replaced and so engine mounts. Dealer want $95 for troubleshoot. Do you think it came from the streeing rack?
I have the same problem since a few months now. It's drive me nut sometime. I noticed that in the morning time driving through the rough road is very smooth (except 5mph speed bump) , only after like 10min of street driving with a few turns/brake/accelerate that I can hear the clunksy on both front tire. Stucks are replaced and so engine mounts. Dealer want $95 for troubleshoot. Do you think it came from the streeing rack?
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Have an alignment shop inspect the rack and tierod ends for play.
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Originally Posted by Tommy99TL
Kris,
I have the same problem since a few months now. It's drive me nut sometime. I noticed that in the morning time driving through the rough road is very smooth (except 5mph speed bump) , only after like 10min of street driving with a few turns/brake/accelerate that I can hear the clunksy on both front tire. Stucks are replaced and so engine mounts. Dealer want $95 for troubleshoot. Do you think it came from the streeing rack?
I have the same problem since a few months now. It's drive me nut sometime. I noticed that in the morning time driving through the rough road is very smooth (except 5mph speed bump) , only after like 10min of street driving with a few turns/brake/accelerate that I can hear the clunksy on both front tire. Stucks are replaced and so engine mounts. Dealer want $95 for troubleshoot. Do you think it came from the streeing rack?
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Originally Posted by pizz419
i just got an alignment about a month ago. go back to the same place and have them look at it??
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Very well could be. Have you had your ball joints inspected?
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^ Find an alignment shop and have them inspect things. They will be able to diagnose that as easy or easier than the dealer as they deal with that daily and inspect for it before doing alignments.
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just a thought before i go take it back to the shop that did the alignment.....could my pass side motor mount be shot causing the weird tire wear on the pass side?? the way my logic works if its shot and not holding its load then the engine would sit a lil lower on the pass side...is this correct? if so that in my opinion it would cause the outter to have more than normal wear. ideas?? i dont wanna go look like and idiot at the shop.
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Originally Posted by pizz419
just a thought before i go take it back to the shop that did the alignment.....could my pass side motor mount be shot causing the weird tire wear on the pass side?? the way my logic works if its shot and not holding its load then the engine would sit a lil lower on the pass side...is this correct? if so that in my opinion it would cause the outter to have more than normal wear. ideas?? i dont wanna go look like and idiot at the shop.
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My clunking stopped all together when I changed my hood stays and when I put isolators on my H&R springs. The Clunking was coming from the front right. I think the hood stays have a large part in keeping the hood still. just because your hood stays open doesnt mean they arnt worn out. If they are good your hood will pop itself all the way up once it is about a foot open. FYI
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Yea im looking at my options (i found a used rack just down the road from me with 40k on it for 100 bucks) . The amount of clunking im now getting i think is more than just the rack. Its really starting to piss me off. I dont have the time or money to be dinking around right now. Ill have to though as its starting to drive me nuts