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Old 10-02-2001 | 12:46 PM
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A few newbie questions...

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im new to the board, this is my first time posting. i have a 2000 silver TL. i have a few questions that i'd like to get cleared up.

1. how many speakers are in the car and how powerful are they (watts)? im guessing its 4 speakers and a sub? 200 watts? thats what im thinking but i don't know if im right.

2. are the HIDs on the car real? i've been to some boards and some people say that the TL xenons are fake emulations of real HIDs? i always thought the TL HIDs were real...who's right?

3. are the 2000 TL stock tires V-rated?

4. at what rpm does the VTEC engage at?

5. is the audio system in the TL-S different from the TL?

6. are all the speakers bose? or is it only the sub?


thx
Old 10-02-2001 | 12:59 PM
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fake hids? Pretty sure they are real
Old 10-02-2001 | 01:17 PM
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Re: A few newbie questions...

Originally posted by 130hp
hey

im new to the board, this is my first time posting. i have a 2000 silver TL. i have a few questions that i'd like to get cleared up.

1. how many speakers are in the car and how powerful are they (watts)? im guessing its 4 speakers and a sub? 200 watts? thats what im thinking but i don't know if im right.

2. are the HIDs on the car real? i've been to some boards and some people say that the TL xenons are fake emulations of real HIDs? i always thought the TL HIDs were real...who's right?

3. are the 2000 TL stock tires V-rated?

4. at what rpm does the VTEC engage at?

5. is the audio system in the TL-S different from the TL?

6. are all the speakers bose? or is it only the sub?


thx

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Old 10-02-2001 | 01:24 PM
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READ THE MANUAL!!!!!
That could be the answer for 90% of the questions asked here. You are a big help thanks for coming in.

Now for the questions. I'm not an expert and I don't have a manual in front of me but here's what i think:

1. 4 speakers and a sub is right. Watts i don't know.

2. Fake? never heard that before.

3. Don't know have a 2002

4. 5000 I think

5. pretty sure there the same

6. They are all Bose
Old 10-02-2001 | 01:32 PM
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I think it's Blowz... not Bose.....
Old 10-02-2001 | 01:55 PM
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Stock tires are V-rated

All the speakers are Bose. It's four speakers (in the doors) and the sub. Don't know the wattage.

Interesting note. My wife's Pathfinder as a 6 speaker Bose system WITHOUT the SUB and in my opinion it blows away the system in the TL hands down. It sounds cleaner and crisper.

I believe that the system in the '02 is pretty much the same as the '99-'01 versions with the only difference being the in-dash 6 disc changer in the '02s.

I believe I read that VTEC engages around 4300 - 4500 RPM

As for the HIDS, I believe they are real. All the independent literature I've read is that the TL has Xenon High Intensity Discharge lights. It is not just the blue covered bulbs that you can buy at PEP Boys. Must be a reason why they are getting stolen left and right (no pun intended) on the east coast.

Hope this helps.
Old 10-02-2001 | 02:05 PM
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Have you driven your TL lately? Of course the HID's are real...drive another car without HIDs..look at the difference...fake HID bulbs can't replicate this kind of lighting, no way...

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Old 10-02-2001 | 02:15 PM
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First of all the TL has the ignitor and ballast which only HIDs have, and also hyper white bulbs make less light than standard halogen even though they appear brighter.
Old 10-02-2001 | 02:42 PM
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Re: A few newbie questions...

Originally posted by 130hp
5. is the audio system in the TL-S different from the TL?

02 TL comes with in-dash CD changer and 00 TL doesn't.
Old 10-02-2001 | 02:47 PM
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Well, the VTEC is engaged at 5300. Ask your dealer and they will pull up a service manual and they will tell tell you 5300. I had to use VAFC to get VTEC to engage at 4700.
Old 10-02-2001 | 02:52 PM
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Well, the VTEC is engaged at 5300. Ask your dealer and they will pull up a service manual and they will tell tell you 5300. I had to use VAFC to get VTEC to engage at 4700.
I stand corrected.
Old 10-02-2001 | 03:35 PM
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that v-tec engagement doesnt make much sense. if that was the case then when you changed gears you would drop below v-tec engagement. an integra gs-r's v-tec engagement happens at 4400 rpm's and that car has an 8100 rpm redline. also.....my v-tec engagement is set at 3600 rpm with my v-afc and when you set it any higher than 4000 you feel a pronounced "push" when v-tech engages. stock v-tec can barely be felt at all ( in fact i never noticed it until i got cai ). i believe the stock v-tec engagement point to be closer 3600-3700. thats just what makes sense to me.
Old 10-02-2001 | 03:50 PM
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First the VTEC on the TL engages at 4400 rpms.
5 speaker BOSE (4 doors...1 sub)
The HIDs are true HIDs....what people are saying is that they aren't as bright as European ones because those are channelled through a projector bulb rather than a normal headlight set up like ours.
Finally, the tires are V-rated to ensure safety.
Old 10-02-2001 | 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by moomaster_99
First the VTEC on the TL engages at 4400 rpms.
5 speaker BOSE (4 doors...1 sub)
The HIDs are true HIDs....what people are saying is that they aren't as bright as European ones because those are channelled through a projector bulb rather than a normal headlight set up like ours.
Finally, the tires are V-rated to ensure safety.
OK, maybe I wasn't corrected. Can anyone provide any info from Honda on when the VTEC does engage?
Old 10-02-2001 | 04:15 PM
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From Acura's web site:

For an 02 TL, VTEC engages at 4400 RPM.
For an 02 TLS, VTEC engages at 4800 RPM. In addition, butterfly valves in the intake plenum open at 3800 RPM.
Old 10-02-2001 | 04:20 PM
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I guess I was correct then.

Thanks DAVERMAN!
Old 10-02-2001 | 04:29 PM
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just wanted to state that us 1st gen TL's have 8 speakers stock hehe we're so special.
Old 10-02-2001 | 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by unx979
just wanted to state that us 1st gen TL's have 8 speakers stock hehe we're so special.
Actually the Vigor was the first to have eight speakers, I know because I owned one. '92 & '93 Vigors were also a little ahead of their time because the stock stereo employed Digital Signal Processing (DSP) which allowed you to replicate different listening environments (i.e. Concert Hall, Studio, Cathedral, Den, etc.).

It was deleted in the '94 Vigors.

I don't remember what was in the Legends, but that's a different car altogether.
Old 10-02-2001 | 11:59 PM
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how powerful are they (watts)?
The wattage on TL stereo system is 160 watts.
Old 10-03-2001 | 12:21 AM
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The wattage on TL stereo system is 160 watts.
What does one need to do to increase it to 300watts?
Has anyone done this mod todate?
Thanks for any info.
Old 10-03-2001 | 01:36 AM
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All your answers have been pretty much answered so I just wanted to tell you to change your screen name to 225 hp.
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What does one need to do to increase it to 300watts?


Change your whole stereo system. From what I know, if you want to increase the wattage, you can't do it on stock. You have to take out the factory system and put a whole new system including head unit, amps, speakers and subs. I think you may be able to use factory head unit if you have RCA converter but you will not have clean sound. You will have lots of distortion because you are converting high input to RCA (low input).
I would just go buy a new aftermarket head unit with RCA jacks. This will make you sound much more cleaners than coverting your factory head unit. Also your factory speakers can not handle 300 watt out put.

I hope this helps.
Old 10-03-2001 | 02:25 AM
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All your answers have been pretty much answered so I just wanted to tell you to change your screen name to 225 hp.


I second that.
Old 10-03-2001 | 11:33 AM
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Change your whole stereo system. From what I know, if you want to increase the wattage, you can't do it on stock. You have to take out the factory system and put a whole new system including head unit, amps, speakers and subs. I think you may be able to use factory head unit if you have RCA converter but you will not have clean sound. You will have lots of distortion because you are converting high input to RCA (low input).
I would just go buy a new aftermarket head unit with RCA jacks. This will make you sound much more cleaners than coverting your factory head unit. Also your factory speakers can not handle 300 watt out put.

I hope this helps.
Thank you for the kind reply. It seems too much hassle & costs doing it plus the time & headaches involved for the upkeep.
I'll just have to stick to stock.
Old 10-03-2001 | 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by BlackShadow
All your answers have been pretty much answered so I just wanted to tell you to change your screen name to 225 hp.
LOL!
maybe i will. im just use to having this user name cause in the protege boards im 130hp :P (i have a 2001 Protege ES, my project car)


thx everyone for the replies and answers.
Old 10-03-2001 | 08:12 PM
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of course our hid's are real.. that is why when we turn them on it takes a second for them to start up cause they have to ignite so to speak.. and the light starts out blue then gets white after 2 or 3 seconds... what kinda question is that?






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Old 10-03-2001 | 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by unx979
just wanted to state that us 1st gen TL's have 8 speakers stock hehe we're so special.
Yeah, but didn't your car cost more than ours when it was new? Maybe that's how they reduced the MSRP, by cutting down on the number of speakers!
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