EBC GS > Hawk HP+
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EBC GS > Hawk HP+
So I've run both of these pads now in the rear. It's been the same pads in the front (Rotora).
After much street driving and some time spent on the track, I can say that the Greenstuff pads are superior to the HP+ pads. Don't even bother with the Hawks, whether you just want some good street pads, or for the occasional track visits.
The Hawks have a relatively decent temperature threshold, but once it's reached, the braking power quickly diminishes. I almost went into a wall of tires at the end of a straightaway when they lost all braking power (in the rear). Same situation, with the Greenstuff, and it didn't happen. They don't lose the braking ability as quickly as the Hawks; it's more gradual and it gives you a little bit of warning. In other words, they are more predictable.
Just a FYI.
After much street driving and some time spent on the track, I can say that the Greenstuff pads are superior to the HP+ pads. Don't even bother with the Hawks, whether you just want some good street pads, or for the occasional track visits.
The Hawks have a relatively decent temperature threshold, but once it's reached, the braking power quickly diminishes. I almost went into a wall of tires at the end of a straightaway when they lost all braking power (in the rear). Same situation, with the Greenstuff, and it didn't happen. They don't lose the braking ability as quickly as the Hawks; it's more gradual and it gives you a little bit of warning. In other words, they are more predictable.
Just a FYI.
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
So I've run both of these pads now in the rear. It's been the same pads in the front (Rotora).
After much street driving and some time spent on the track, I can say that the Greenstuff pads are superior to the HP+ pads. Don't even bother with the Hawks, whether you just want some good street pads, or for the occasional track visits.
The Hawks have a relatively decent temperature threshold, but once it's reached, the braking power quickly diminishes. I almost went into a wall of tires at the end of a straightaway when they lost all braking power (in the rear). Same situation, with the Greenstuff, and it didn't happen. They don't lose the braking ability as quickly as the Hawks; it's more gradual and it gives you a little bit of warning. In other words, they are more predictable.
Just a FYI.
After much street driving and some time spent on the track, I can say that the Greenstuff pads are superior to the HP+ pads. Don't even bother with the Hawks, whether you just want some good street pads, or for the occasional track visits.
The Hawks have a relatively decent temperature threshold, but once it's reached, the braking power quickly diminishes. I almost went into a wall of tires at the end of a straightaway when they lost all braking power (in the rear). Same situation, with the Greenstuff, and it didn't happen. They don't lose the braking ability as quickly as the Hawks; it's more gradual and it gives you a little bit of warning. In other words, they are more predictable.
Just a FYI.
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When I first had the EBC Greens on my car, its was great! But when it broke in (after the first week), my brakes were not responsive at all. It had lost the aggresive initial bite and did not stop my car during slow cruisin speed(below 30 mph). A few times I almost rear ended the person in front of me. They were great for high speed stopping conditions after the pads were heat up. Althought i could only get about 2-3 60-0 mph stop before I lost all braking. I probably wont buy them again, and will be looking into Hawk HPS or HP plus pads since couple of my buddies run those pads with great results.
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Originally Posted by MotionEffects
When I first had the EBC Greens on my car, its was great! But when it broke in (after the first week), my brakes were not responsive at all. It had lost the aggresive initial bite and did not stop my car during slow cruisin speed(below 30 mph). A few times I almost rear ended the person in front of me. They were great for high speed stopping conditions after the pads were heat up. Althought i could only get about 2-3 60-0 mph stop before I lost all braking. I probably wont buy them again, and will be looking into Hawk HPS or HP plus pads since couple of my buddies run those pads with great results.
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
they should not have acted like that. ive never had them loose any braking even after repeated 100+ stops. and they never were bad cold. they always had great bite and only got beter when warm
Maybe I didnt break them in correctly. I just drove normal. I know on some pad, your suppose to stop harder progressively 30-0 MPH than 40-0 mph, 50-0 mph and so on.
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Originally Posted by MotionEffects
Maybe I didnt break them in correctly. I just drove normal. I know on some pad, your suppose to stop harder progressively 30-0 MPH than 40-0 mph, 50-0 mph and so on.
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