EBC Greenstuff pads + Stock rotors... brake dust???

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Old 07-13-2005, 07:04 PM
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EBC Greenstuff pads + Stock rotors... brake dust???

I've read and read again people saying that EBC Greenstuff has low brake dust... I was under the impression low brake dust compared to stock pads. I must admit though that the braking power on these are definitely better than stock.

I got an AMAZING amount of brake dust with just about 400 miles (2 weeks of driving) after cleaning the wheels. Is this normal or is it just me ? The front are bad, the rears barely have any dust since they are barely used.









Old 07-13-2005, 07:17 PM
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Yup... for me at least.

I noticed more brake dust as well. Not quite as much as you're getting be certainly noticable vs stock. It's kind of a pain but from what I've seen other places on the board the EBC Greens produce less dust then the other aftermarket options (Axxis, Hawk, etc).

I feel it's a fair trade though for the increased performance (real or perceived)

Hope this helps,

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Old 07-13-2005, 07:21 PM
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Well, looking at the EBC website... it doesnt tell you the exact composition of the pad, but it does say that the pad hardness is soft, which would most likely mean that its made out of organic material... same stuff that your stock pads has.... theres the answer.

If you want less brake dust try the red pads which are made of of ceramic.

The reason you have more brake dust in the front rather than the back is because its a front wheel drive car. On front wheel drive cars the braking is 75%-80% done by the front rotors.
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thats about right...I have hawks...n it has a tad more brake dust than urs. But both perform great...I had both pads. The black calipers look nice...but u gotta clean it =X
Old 07-13-2005, 07:31 PM
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Thats bout right...I have hawks..and with 500 miles...it has a tad more brake dust than urs. Your caliper paint is nice...but clean them!! =x
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I heard the first few hundred miles on Greenstuff will dust like crazy but after about 1000miles the amount of dust should reduce by a lot. Put a few hundred miles more on the pads and let us know.
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Originally Posted by WiLLs TypE S
thats about right...I have hawks...n it has a tad more brake dust than urs. But both perform great...I had both pads. The black calipers look nice...but u gotta clean it =X
Yeah that and my rims!!

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I heard the first few hundred miles on Greenstuff will dust like crazy but after about 1000miles the amount of dust should reduce by a lot. Put a few hundred miles more on the pads and let us know.
I've put about 2000 miles on it already this is about from 1700 to 2100 miles since I put them on.
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Wow, if thats the case thats a lot of dust. I was going to use the Greenstuff pads but I wanted no dust and the Akebono ceramic pads have been great at doing that. Consider them next time you replace pads. They won't grip as well as the Greenstuff though but its better than stock.
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Yeah I thought so too. A friend of mine with the same car does about the same driving as me has just as much brake dust as well. He put I think about 3000 miles on them so far... since in.

Ok, I will look into those... how much do the run about?
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I bought Akebono's at Tirerack for about $55-65 +shipping
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teh green stuff will produce dust durring break in but then settle down to about oem. they are the lowest brake dust of all teh high end performance pads. that is low. my axxis will do that in a day.

also if you ise tire foam (any thing like that) it acts like a magnet for teh dust (the overspray gets on the rim and as you drive it flings on to the rim
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Yup - ceramic is the lowest for dust. I only used my EBC's for less than 5-10k miles and switched back out to ceramics (wagner) and my old OEM discs (turned). They're still going strong.

As I recall - ceramic pads are the OEM equipment.

(he he - I still have my EBC's and slotted rotors in the garage - with less than 5-10k miles on them)
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hawks and my wilwood pad makes more than that in one week
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I agree... the brake dust is crazy, but like many of you said, its a trade off for the good braking performance, which I guess I'll have to live with. I'm just worried in the winter, when I gotta keep my rims clean.

I think even if a car is dirty, if you keep the rims clean and the tires polished it makes the car appear cleaner on a whole. So I'm really going to have a bitch of a time in the winter.
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Originally Posted by Elegant TYPE S
I agree... the brake dust is crazy, but like many of you said, its a trade off for the good braking performance, which I guess I'll have to live with. I'm just worried in the winter, when I gotta keep my rims clean.

I think even if a car is dirty, if you keep the rims clean and the tires polished it makes the car appear cleaner on a whole. So I'm really going to have a bitch of a time in the winter.
that's why i got a set of winter rims
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Alright, I was just making sure. I guess I just have to clean them more often.
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wow, i would've expected better from the EBC pads, i have axxis and although i dont drive a whole lot and i dont brake hard they definitely give off less dust then that perhaps the akebono's will be my replacement pads
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Originally Posted by TL_S_Driver
wow, i would've expected better from the EBC pads, i have axxis and although i dont drive a whole lot and i dont brake hard they definitely give off less dust then that perhaps the akebono's will be my replacement pads
I also do a lot of city driving, probably 250 of the 400 was city? And this is NYC so its like even more braking than ever even on the highways. Traffic every where you go. I see you are from NYC too so you probably know what I am talking about.
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I am actually surprised with the above results - I have the EBC pads (Green ones) with Rotora Rotors and have seem a great reduction in brake dust as compared to the OEM setup - odd you have this result....
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Originally Posted by Bxscig
I also do a lot of city driving, probably 250 of the 400 was city? And this is NYC so its like even more braking than ever even on the highways. Traffic every where you go. I see you are from NYC too so you probably know what I am talking about.
that likely explains it. but it should get better.

Oh and this stuff is the bomb for cleaning wheels. spray on wait a bit and hose off! ive gotten to be real good friends with this stuff since teh shitty axxis ultimates.

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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
that likely explains it. but it should get better.

Oh and this stuff is the bomb for cleaning wheels. spray on wait a bit and hose off! ive gotten to be real good friends with this stuff since teh shitty axxis ultimates.

Thanks, I got that good stuff already
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HAS ANYONE TRY THE EBC RED STUFF??? I work at Pepboys and saw the Red Stuff supposely better than the Green Stuff
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
that likely explains it. but it should get better.

Oh and this stuff is the bomb for cleaning wheels. spray on wait a bit and hose off! ive gotten to be real good friends with this stuff since teh shitty axxis ultimates.

kris, i bought the Dupont Teflon one, is that gd?

the melguair's and eagle one is gd (used to with the type-S wheel in the pic)
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Originally Posted by 99bluetlwtt
HAS ANYONE TRY THE EBC RED STUFF??? I work at Pepboys and saw the Red Stuff supposely better than the Green Stuff
red is for track use, in the street they are noisy due to the compound
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Originally Posted by 99bluetlwtt
HAS ANYONE TRY THE EBC RED STUFF??? I work at Pepboys and saw the Red Stuff supposely better than the Green Stuff
I Believe the Red Stuff is a more agressive Pad. So you'll go through them quicker, its more for racing I believe. Somone else will verify this hopefully.
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and ceramic pads will have a lot of dust for sure, compare with the OEM pads which they don't bite and not as soft
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Endless pads are also good for minimal dust!
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Bxscig, the blackness on your wheel looks so much like mine with Axis Ultimate ceramic pads. But everybody's been saying GreenStuff pads are not generating as much black dust as Ultimate pads ?!
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I wonder if it is the New York City traffic that makes it worse as well than other people. But definitely when compared to when I had my oem ones, ebc has more brake dust much faster.
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Originally Posted by patrick
Endless pads are also good for minimal dust!
EBC, Endless, Hawks are all gd

but i have heard nth but good about Hawks
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Originally Posted by samkws
but i have heard nth but good about Hawks
except they have half the life of EBC
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