Does anyone else feel that the shifter is backwards?
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I'm still getting used to this car... I've had it for a week and a half now...
My first instinct with this shifter is to pull it back up the gear... and I keep wanting to do it(accidently done it a couple times)...
It just feels backwards... or maybe I just need to get used to it...
My first instinct with this shifter is to pull it back up the gear... and I keep wanting to do it(accidently done it a couple times)...
It just feels backwards... or maybe I just need to get used to it...
Actually most racing is exactly like the way Acura and every other manufacturer has it. Punch it to upshift, and pull it to down shift. You might be thinking of paddle shift which is pull for down and pull for up (depending on left side or right side).
It probably will feel un-natural to people used to driving stick shifts. It's hard to break the habit of pulling back for 2nd and 4th.
It probably will feel un-natural to people used to driving stick shifts. It's hard to break the habit of pulling back for 2nd and 4th.
Originally posted by AcuraJoe:
I think they got it backward. I watch racing regularly and they have their tiptronic the other way arround. BTW, I accidently down shifted many times.
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I think they got it backward. I watch racing regularly and they have their tiptronic the other way arround. BTW, I accidently down shifted many times.
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All the manumatics I've seen are this way (BMW, Lincoln, Acura, Audi/VW/Porsche), except the ones that go left/right (like the Mercedes). But at least Acura put the gate in the right place! The Audi/VW/Porsche tiptronic and the Lincoln have the gate on the RIGHT, and people say it's really easy to accidentally pull it towards you and back into drive.
I had a '99 3.2TL before I got the 3.2TL-S and I have never had a problem using the shifter. The way it is setup seems perfectly natural to me. My problem has been when I have gone to shift up or down and forgot I did not have it in the SS mode; like going form D5 to neutral on an upshift. Now THAT pisses me off!
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Originally posted by LordBodak:
The Audi/VW/Porsche tiptronic and the Lincoln have the gate on the RIGHT, and people say it's really easy to accidentally pull it towards you and back into drive.
The Audi/VW/Porsche tiptronic and the Lincoln have the gate on the RIGHT, and people say it's really easy to accidentally pull it towards you and back into drive.
Originally posted by sneuxstorm:
I have a feeling that the way they have set up the shifting is a matter of liability and the problems inherent in a road car...distractions and ergonomics. Engineers and lawyers probably sat around saying "if they reach for the drink in the cup holder or tune the radio, they might accidentally downshift, so lets reverse so that they accidentally upshift, and that way there is less potential for damage and accidents"
just my opinion.

I have a feeling that the way they have set up the shifting is a matter of liability and the problems inherent in a road car...distractions and ergonomics. Engineers and lawyers probably sat around saying "if they reach for the drink in the cup holder or tune the radio, they might accidentally downshift, so lets reverse so that they accidentally upshift, and that way there is less potential for damage and accidents"
just my opinion.

All of the Rally cars that I have seen that use the single stick shifter are pull back for up shifting, and forward for down. CART switched to this method of shifting (sequential) a few years ago, and their cars are back for up and forward for down. If you think about it it is physically easier for them to use, when you are accelerating your are being pulled back, and when decelerating and being thrown forward you shift down.
F1, uses paddles on either side of the wheel. This is all up to the driver, but it seems that most go with up on the right down on the left, with the clutch trigger on the left.
Motorcycles, for many many years, have used sequential shifting. This yould be up with your left toe (unless you ride a norton or something, then its the right, if you ride an old harley its a whole 'nother thing) for upshifting and down for down.
I have a feeling that the way they have set up the shifting is a matter of liability and the problems inherent in a road car...distractions and ergonomics. Engineers and lawyers probably sat around saying "if they reach for the drink in the cup holder or tune the radio, they might accidentally downshift, so lets reverse so that they accidentally upshift, and that way there is less potential for damage and accidents"
just my opinion.

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F1, uses paddles on either side of the wheel. This is all up to the driver, but it seems that most go with up on the right down on the left, with the clutch trigger on the left.
Motorcycles, for many many years, have used sequential shifting. This yould be up with your left toe (unless you ride a norton or something, then its the right, if you ride an old harley its a whole 'nother thing) for upshifting and down for down.
I have a feeling that the way they have set up the shifting is a matter of liability and the problems inherent in a road car...distractions and ergonomics. Engineers and lawyers probably sat around saying "if they reach for the drink in the cup holder or tune the radio, they might accidentally downshift, so lets reverse so that they accidentally upshift, and that way there is less potential for damage and accidents"
just my opinion.

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Originally posted by imax:
I had a '99 3.2TL before I got the 3.2TL-S and I have never had a problem using the shifter. The way it is setup seems perfectly natural to me. My problem has been when I have gone to shift up or down and forgot I did not have it in the SS mode; like going form D5 to neutral on an upshift. Now THAT pisses me off!
I had a '99 3.2TL before I got the 3.2TL-S and I have never had a problem using the shifter. The way it is setup seems perfectly natural to me. My problem has been when I have gone to shift up or down and forgot I did not have it in the SS mode; like going form D5 to neutral on an upshift. Now THAT pisses me off!
Me too. I've done that several times and it is embarrasing!!

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