thelastaspec

Honda still has not accounted for a defective batch of parts.
This is about the third recall.

new recall details:
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/12/02/h...for-640-airba/

01tl4tl

we have been expecting an expanded vin list,,they already did that twice,,,
Everyone ck in with acura care or your dealer service dept can run the vin

or self serve types- look up list online and compare to your cars numbers

the inflator prob is worse than I thought,,not just causing severe injury due to excess speed,
It has (guessing based on there is a recall) actually exploded and broken the bag itself !
possible results: death to driver!!!

I've always said airbags are dangerous because they break collarbones and burn your face.
Learn to drive and avoid their use
Now THIS!! the airbag itself will cause more damage to you than the actual crash,,,greaaaaat

makes me long for the cars of old, when steel met steel = everyone shook hands and walked away

totaledTL

Well if you think it's more dangerous w/ them enabled you can always disable them.

I'll take my chances with them working.

Edward'TLS

Looks like the 2002 TL's are no longer affected by this new recall, since my ex-2002 already had the airbag replaced twice in the previous two recalls.

01tl4tl

recall: its not the bag = the inflator mechanism is deploying the bag at excess speed
which CAN rupture the bag
so the fix is a new inflator part

Even if `fixed` before- we all know what that means = may be a new part again

my point on airbags are dangerous-- was actually to encourage people to attend a few track day/high performance school days on a real race track- with a pro racer as your coach

End result is the abilty to spot problems ahead.. and how to drive around the scene of the crash- rather than plow into it

Plus you get to drive the TL at full throttle to max late braking points- correct turn-in to the apex- maybe some trail braking to stabilize it then back on the gas- full throttle again,,a major learning experience for 200$

my friend `the ER Doctor` says more injuries occur from the actual bag deployment,
the gas the talcum powder the impact to face and chest.. on smaller people especially!
all that = do what you can to never need the experience~

jimgriggs

Not crashing the car is certainly the best idea. However in the event that it does happen, and lets face it, it does happen an airbag is a handy thing to have. An ER doctors anecdotal evidence aside, airbags have saved far more lives than they have taken.

Back on topic, How long does it take to have the work done? which airbags are they working on, the drivers side front, passenger front, or the side impact as well? Just curious, I have not had mine done yet and am wondering how long it takes and how involved the process is.

koukii

let's hope so

thelastaspec

dont you get a loaner for the day?

01tl4tl

if loaner is available..better chances of that tues wed thursday
Ask when making appointment, driver age minimums may apply

Its not very long actual working time, but the tech has to be trained and certified in the repair, so they have to work in time between other jobs,
or more likely = have one guy doing these all day long

if my understand is complete and correct, its the steering wheel inflator mechanism
replaced with unit of correct speed
does not remove or mess with the airbag itself during the repair

jimgriggs

I guess I should schedule it then. Nearest Acura dealer is 70 miles from me, so I have been putting it off.

thelastaspec

I remember reading the guys who work on anything airbag related carry tons of insurance...

thelastaspec

I'm not in the recall according to Acura.ca

kqxqx

My 02 tl-s will be affected by this recall. What should I do? I'm not the first owner of this car. Do they have my contact information (probably through DMV)?

cheekoo

@kqxqx : Register at owners.acura.com.
Talk to service department of your local dealership. They will lookup your VIN to find if your car is covered in this or not, and then you can take an appointment with them if needed.

Bearcat94

This recall is basically expanded to inspection of ALL vehicles with this part. Something like 273,000 Acura's and over 600,000 Acura/Honda vehicles.

The current TSB (from 12/8/11) list no VIN range. It says the car must be checked via some Acura/Honda system (InVIN or something). TSB 09-033, revised 12/8/11.

http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/SB/B09-033.pdf

Additional documentation avialable via the NHSTA here: http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/recalls/recallsearch.cfm

After you get the seach results choose "Document Search" for a (long) list of avialable documents regarding this recall.

cheekoo

So we don't need to check VIN coverage and all that. and can directly go take an appointment with dealer n get it checked?

Bearcat94

Not exactly.

The way I read it was, call a dealer and have them run the VIN in their system to determine if they need to inspect your car.

That's what I did and they said, "Yes, bring it in." However, I think a LOT of people are going to get that answer.

Of course, you could just "stop in" or make an appointment if that's more convenient than a quick phone call.

totaledTL

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Bearcat94

Go here: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/3g-tl-technical-service-bulletins-tsbs-3g-garage-j-016-a-613659/

Follow Ron A's instructions, then try the link again:

cheekoo

Okay, I asked that because I called my local dealer and the guy on other side mentioned my VIN is not covered, n am confused.

TLer trash

I'm curious; where did you read this? I've never had it come up for myself or any of my techs.

thelastaspec

I remember at a baseball game a guy i know who owns a shop was telling me about airbags and insurance as above.
I think i read something in car and driver too.

Maybe for dealerships doing recalls/replacements where the whole process is detailed and engineered to the extreme its not an issue.

I've always been curious after hearing about it, interesting that its different for you.
-or-
maybe up here in BC with our government run insurance agency they enforce rules like what i heard.
edit: fyi: in BC we only have one insurance company - its run by the government
we have these things called "crown corporations" - its a company, ran like a business, but owned by the monarch/gov.
-or-
im wrong :P

thelastaspec

Thanks Bearcat!
Accessing Honda TechNet wasn't working for me lately and following what you posted works again!

Manus99

So I just got back from my dealership to have this recall addressed. I was notified via the mail that my car was affected by this recall. I called to schedule an appt. with the dealership last week. They checked their system, and my car indeed needs the replacement. I went today for my appt. and after an hour of waiting, they tell me they didn't have the part! I am extremely pissed about this because if they confirmed last week I needed the replacement, why did they not have the part on hand for the appt. This is defintely my last Acura.

thelastaspec

Wow, thats disappointing.