1st timer

Is it best to do it while the engine is cold? How much do i have to torque the bolts?

jjashaa

iTrader: (23)

of course its best work on it while its cold.. don't wanna burn yourself. and torque wise?? not sure.

fsttyms1

Why do you want to change your TB?

1st timer

I just changed it and feel better throttle response,feels a bit better.

jjashaa

iTrader: (23)

i think you could've just cleaned your old one..

fsttyms1

Agree.

1st timer

I compared the old one with this one and there was no build up whatsoever.
I'm not saying that i gained the same hp that headers would give but,there's definitely better throttle response at low end.I also added the spacer.

1st timer

I will port match the IM and install UD pulley and then headers but before I do all this i'll probably change the mufflers and remove the pre muffler. Maybe i'll just change the IM...

fsttyms1

A tooth brush and some carb cleaner would have removed any buildup.

SodaLuvr

Throttle body cleaner is a better choice. Carb cleaner might remove the coating on the throttle body (if one existed).

fsttyms1

true but most carb cleaner now is also for fuel injection as well which will work just fine. Sea foam works too. Any thing designed for cleaning carbon buildup should work.

5daddy13

Speaking of TB. I know for my '89 5.0 PONY they make larger TBs for better air intake. Is there that same availablity for the TL-S? I haven't seen any threads on here that mention larger heads, injectors, fuel rails/pumps, fuel pressure regulators, advanced/retarded timing, msd type ignition, or cams? Am I missing something or is the good-old-fashion motorhead stuff not applicable/available for our TL-Ss?
Apologize for post-whoring!

fsttyms1

No to all.

5daddy13

I see superchargers referenced on the site; are the stock TBs/heads/intake truly effective in delivering enough air to justify the expense of a SC?

rp_guy

they're fine, but if you want more power obviously you can bore out the TB, port the heads, etc etc etc

1st timer

when i removed th TB,there was a "spacer" that was screwed to it. Do i need to add it to the other TB I added? It's made of the same material the tb is made of.

SodaLuvr

I just bought a can of GUMOUT Carb & Choke Cleaner. On the back label, it clearly states "Not recommended for fuel injected vehicles. Use GUMOUT Air Intake and Throttle Body Cleaner instead." So, while carb cleaner might remove the carbon, there's also that possibility that it may cause damage to the coating on the throttle body. You can take your chances, but the few extra dollars for the correct product is a small price to pay compared to the consequences.

fsttyms1

Note i said most. Ones that don't say it i wouldn't use. I guess i should edit my post to reflect that, but was hoping that most would understand its carbon cleaner designed for fuel injection (since thats what our motors run) i was referring to

fsttyms1

Yes. Of course doing port and head work would be a good thing, its not necessary unless your out for every last drop of HP