agean

If this has been posted before, sorry.

This is my first time with a CAI, and my neighbor was mentioning a problem he had with his on his legend. Specifically, in the winter, snow would get packed onto the area around the CAI and freeze up, blocking air flow. Has this happened to anyone before? Is this something I should be looking out for once winter sets in?

Thanks

juniorbean

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hmmm.. I never had a CAI in winter.. only a short ram intake. I guess it could be possible, however, it's unlikely unless you are running through deep snow. If that's the case I'd check it after you drive to make sure it's not blocked.....

agean

same here, i've always had a short ram. it seems possible though, especially if water gets on the filter in real cold weather, it could freeze up.

i'd assume its much less likely with a short ram, given the heat of the engine and lower chance of the filter getting wet.

guess we'll find out come november or so...

69tl

well that's always an alternative which is by pass value.

juniorbean

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Well, I do have the by-pass, and that would help keep water out.. however, agean is not talking about sucking up water... he's worried about the airflow being blocked down by the filter itself....

roadman

Agean,

TL-S (w/stock tires) and Snow do not mix. After your first time in the white stuff you will almost surely leave the TL-S home till the salt starts to work.

agean

yah i can imagine...at least its fwd though, that was the big determining factor that swayed me from the g35.

any recomendations for a good winter tire? all i need to do is replace the fronts right?

fsttyms1

00 tl cai works just fine in the winter. no problems with the snow packing around it. as for tires mich artic alpin u will go throug snow like a awd btw i live in wisconsin

Davidas

NO NO!! Never put winter tires on FRONT only. If really your budget can afford only 2 winter tires, it is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED to put them in the REAR. (even if it is a FWD vehicule). In that way, you have less chance to loose control of the vehicule.

fsttyms1

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Davidas


NO NO!! Never put winter tires on FRONT only. If really your budget can afford only 2 winter tires, it is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED to put them in the REAR. (even if it is a FWD vehicule). In that way, you have less chance to loose control of the vehicule. [/QUOTE


like Davidas said NO NO!! i didnt mention that you should only put four snow tires on not just two... (i tried once just for grins. VERY dangerous

agean

okay okay, i get the hint guys =)

its not a budget thing, i've just heard that since the car is driven by the front wheels only, replacing those would yield decent results.

whats the reasoning for replacing the rear tires only? I dont understand how that would work better in a front drive car?

fsttyms1

it wont yeild better results in traction as far as accelerating but ig you only put them on in front the back end will tend to slide around alot. most places like the tire rack and other stores will only sell them in sets of four unless you are replacing 2 worn out ones

juniorbean

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No one said to replace rear tires only... they are all saying to replace all FOUR tires with snows... front AND rear......

Replacing the two front tires will help you get traction from a stop... but you have to remember that you have 4 tires in contact with the road. If you're rear tires are not snows you will have problems turning and braking... it would just be dangerous. Like fsttyms1 said.. most places will only sell you 4 tires.....

Driving in straight lines, you'd be OK.... however, I don't know about you... but out of all the places I drive to NONE of them are a straight route from my house.

Go for all 4......

agean

i definitely understand what you all are saying, but DAVIDAS did say, "it would be better to put the snow tires in the rear, even in an FWD". that's all i was questioning.

i realize that all 4 tires being replaced is optimal, i was just curious about davidas's comment.

juniorbean

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Go back and re-read his whole post... I think he just forgot to put the word "too" after rear.... I mean.. his first sentence he's saying to never put snows on the fronts only..... so he obviously means to replace all four


"NO NO!! Never put winter tires on FRONT only. If really your budget can afford only 2 winter tires, it is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED to put them in the REAR too (even if it is a FWD vehicle). In that way, you have less chance to loose control of the vehicle."

fsttyms1

i agree with juniorbean

juniorbean

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I also edited your subject in case other people were looking for tire info

agean

thanks juniorbean...that makes sense now

Davidas

I should have said, no matter it's a FWD or RWD, for winter, the tires that have the most grip (or less worn) should be placed on the REAR. It's a question of physic, you don't want to lose control on the snow with a "dancing car tail". This is called OVERSTEER. As someone said, for straight line acceleration and braking, ok put 2 in FRONT only.

For safety : Please replace 4 winter tires at the same time.

paxus

Let me get this straight. I live in the washington d.c. area and I get my fair share of snow. Not a lot, but nevertheless it still snows here. I flipped a car once on black ice (Chevy Corsica -- ewww), and have almost lost control of my 94 accord on snow too. Part of the reason I bought my TL was the VSA and FWD.

So we are saying the stock OEM tires suck in the snow? I know they weren't all that great for performance.

What tire brands do we recommend here?

roadman

It depends on what you consider performance. If you are looking for a high mileage grand touring tire that is good in the rain and quiet at highway speeds the the stock tires are what you use. If you are looking for better handling then the treadlife will be less and more noisy at highway speeds. Looking for a high performance all-season tire then that is the tire for you. The choice is up to you and how you drive your car.

Davidas

Choosing the right tire is a world of compromise.

TLS RULZ

Guys..

I bought my car in Aug 2001. Nov 2001 I bought 4 Michelin Pilot Alpins... (these ones are rated upto 210kmph or 130mph )...

Let me tell you its TOTALLY different feeling when you have winters on there... sometimes it instills overconfidence which is BAD.

All I know is it saved my ass acouple of times last year... espically when it we get flash icey patches..like when the temp drops really fast... This one time I was on the 401 and my VSA light on on for like 20min while I was doing like 60-70 kmph ... everyone else was like I even saw an accident in my rear view ...

BTW... mixing winters with regular tires will probably screw up VSA anyway