Buying used TL from auction - things to look out for?
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Buying used TL from auction - things to look out for?
I've already searched, and transmission issues seem to be the most prevalent (as with many automatic hondas from back then).
I'm looking for a beater to put a lot of miles on, and as much as I'd like a stick this needs to be shared amongst people who can't drive manual..only way I'm buying a stick is if I get it dirt cheap (missed out on a 2001 Accord LX sedan, manual, ~80k miles, for $2100). Used 01-03 TL's go for ~$4000-$4500. I'd prefer to get something cheaper, but with most automatic accords going for almost the same price I figured the TL is a better bet.
During a brief test drive I guess the only thing I can look for when assessing the condition of the auto is a slipping transmission? Are certain years more prone to failure than others?
Other than that what I've read shows this car to be fairly rock solid and dependable..there's nothing else to really "watch out for," right?
I'm looking for a beater to put a lot of miles on, and as much as I'd like a stick this needs to be shared amongst people who can't drive manual..only way I'm buying a stick is if I get it dirt cheap (missed out on a 2001 Accord LX sedan, manual, ~80k miles, for $2100). Used 01-03 TL's go for ~$4000-$4500. I'd prefer to get something cheaper, but with most automatic accords going for almost the same price I figured the TL is a better bet.
During a brief test drive I guess the only thing I can look for when assessing the condition of the auto is a slipping transmission? Are certain years more prone to failure than others?
Other than that what I've read shows this car to be fairly rock solid and dependable..there's nothing else to really "watch out for," right?
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smell the trans fluid- burnt? walk away!
you wont feel a trans failure unless its about ready to go---- if they even let you drive auction cars-most are `start in place` and thats it-
the 105k miles service is critical with water pump-timing belt -tune up--$1200
The TL is not a good `beater car` to put a lot of miles on,, within a budget.
gets poor mileage in town, vtec encourages poor mileage everywhere,
and overzealous use of the SS mode in downshifting to 3rd and 2nd will wear out the known weak clutch disc/packs! Its NOT a 5 speed!! $4000 out of warranty or salvage cars
other things to know- some 03s had a recall for free timing belt replacement
worst trans years 00-05
How to tell if its got a warranty replaced trans- blue painted bolt heads on the trans
you wont feel a trans failure unless its about ready to go---- if they even let you drive auction cars-most are `start in place` and thats it-
the 105k miles service is critical with water pump-timing belt -tune up--$1200
The TL is not a good `beater car` to put a lot of miles on,, within a budget.
gets poor mileage in town, vtec encourages poor mileage everywhere,
and overzealous use of the SS mode in downshifting to 3rd and 2nd will wear out the known weak clutch disc/packs! Its NOT a 5 speed!! $4000 out of warranty or salvage cars
other things to know- some 03s had a recall for free timing belt replacement
worst trans years 00-05
How to tell if its got a warranty replaced trans- blue painted bolt heads on the trans
#3
the steering rack leaks if the fluid isnt changed now and then
The brake calipers and abs can fail due to no brake fluid flushes
Ball joints are prone to wear
The brake calipers and abs can fail due to no brake fluid flushes
Ball joints are prone to wear
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wham bam thank you ma'am
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what 01tl4tl. sometimes u get a great deal on auctions cars. like when i bought my 03 smr cl-s6 for $1800 and about another $1300-$1500 in parts and paint.
also if theirs a vin on they trans then it has not been replaced. look under any car u buy to make sure that when teh car was moved they didnt rip any brake, fuel lines or wires.
also if theirs a vin on they trans then it has not been replaced. look under any car u buy to make sure that when teh car was moved they didnt rip any brake, fuel lines or wires.
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the acura techs are supposed to swap the trans vin plate to the replacement unit ,, but most are too lazy (according to the Senior Tech at my dealer)
I was addressing the OPs stated desires, vs the reality of owning a TL.., like when 50 bucks for spark plugs shocks you....how will you take the news of timing belt time?
If you dont get the lucky one at auction- you could have a problem that effects several people who depend on the car--not just you needing a loaner or rental
Many auction cars are salvage flood cars or `retitled` thru some states~-
so it makes me shudder at the thought of not having access to all the cars history and being able to drive and put on the rack- thats the mechanic part of me
Take your cell phone and call acura 1-800-382-2238 x5-
tell them you are just - `looking to buy-research` `NOT registering as new owner of that Vin` and can they give you a records check-
check if any recalls open/need to be done, and was the trans ever replaced--
they will do it for you no prob- more fun than taking a complaint call!
The other items were just notes on expected cost or probs to look for - as the OP requested
Would I get another gen2- sure! If there is a trans warranty available for it aftermarket
Maybe its from looking at so many TLs' in the search for mine- lots of cars had not been cared for- that can lead to problems
A TL you can test drive to at least give the clutch packs a quick check- is risky biz- in my opinion
I was addressing the OPs stated desires, vs the reality of owning a TL.., like when 50 bucks for spark plugs shocks you....how will you take the news of timing belt time?
If you dont get the lucky one at auction- you could have a problem that effects several people who depend on the car--not just you needing a loaner or rental
Many auction cars are salvage flood cars or `retitled` thru some states~-
so it makes me shudder at the thought of not having access to all the cars history and being able to drive and put on the rack- thats the mechanic part of me
Take your cell phone and call acura 1-800-382-2238 x5-
tell them you are just - `looking to buy-research` `NOT registering as new owner of that Vin` and can they give you a records check-
check if any recalls open/need to be done, and was the trans ever replaced--
they will do it for you no prob- more fun than taking a complaint call!
The other items were just notes on expected cost or probs to look for - as the OP requested
Would I get another gen2- sure! If there is a trans warranty available for it aftermarket
Maybe its from looking at so many TLs' in the search for mine- lots of cars had not been cared for- that can lead to problems
A TL you can test drive to at least give the clutch packs a quick check- is risky biz- in my opinion
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the quick check for trans replacement is to look under the car at the bolt heads that are part of the trans main bolts- blue heads = acura rebuilt unit
I agree Raj- sometimes you can get a winner- you scored!!
In my time working at shops, there were some real pieces of auction garbage- that got buffed out and smallest amount of work to cover up existing problems that indicate near future part failure
When you go in knowing the car will need work and have that budgeted for- thats one thing- To get one and expect to thrash it as ~beater~ without any initial or ongoing expeditures...not a realistic concept in my world
The OPs statement about the intended trans useage makes me think they have not driven a TL, or read the tranny failure thread on here
an auction score for a MT track day car- thats cool!!!
I agree Raj- sometimes you can get a winner- you scored!!
In my time working at shops, there were some real pieces of auction garbage- that got buffed out and smallest amount of work to cover up existing problems that indicate near future part failure
When you go in knowing the car will need work and have that budgeted for- thats one thing- To get one and expect to thrash it as ~beater~ without any initial or ongoing expeditures...not a realistic concept in my world
The OPs statement about the intended trans useage makes me think they have not driven a TL, or read the tranny failure thread on here
an auction score for a MT track day car- thats cool!!!
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