ifski

im going to get comptech exhaust but have a few questions, i was wondering if anyone can help. is therea major differance between axel or cat besides price? where can you get the best price? is b-pipe needed or recommened? please help! i'll take any info. thanks

racersky

you better have money to buy the exhaust cause comptech full cat is running 1352.00
if i were you just be patient and wait and buy a used set of comptech axle back from the black market. That's what most of the pplz on this forum does anyway

fsttyms1

there is a few more HP to be had by the cat back comptech as opposed to the axel backs 1-2 hp gain. also check into the quiet tip inserts. they make a big difference in sound (like if you are going ona trip and want it quieter)

bigman

it depends what model TL you have. If you have a TL-P you will benefit more from having a Cat back setup. If you have a TL-S, you will not gain much from going cat back. The cost vs power is not worth it, unless you are supercharged. Also why spend so much on comptechs, when you can have a full custom cat back for the same price.

bello425

IFSKI,

You located in Cali? Well bigman is right about the price, but if you are in Cali spend the extra money on the Comptechs, especially with the STUPID new changes being implemented by the California Air Resource Board. Meaning stricter restrictions to the changing of exhausts, adding aftermarket intakes, etc. Sorry had to vent. I have an 02 TL-P with axlebacks. 3 different Acura parts dealers recommended just the axle backs due to the cost vs pwr equation. If money is not an issue get the "whole" package.

BeemerKiller

Can someone tell lme what's the main difference between the cat back an the axel exhaust?

I keep hear ppl talking about them, but dont relly know What's the difference.
I dont even know the OEM one we have is an axel exhaust or cat back.

bigman

Axle back exhaust is from the y pipe back.The cat back is from the catalytic converter back.

etxxz

^^ And i'm sure there are places very near you that can do a custom catback for less than $500...this is worthless unless you like the sound this much in which case a catback is just wasting money since it can be taken care off by removing the resonator or putting 2x $30 2.5inch tips.

quality of sound is a different story. not too different in sound though...just $400 more.

OR if you want it really loud, do what i did when i installed my headers, run it straight outa the down pipe and leave everyone in the neiborhood deaf! in which case you save $800.

nucleusTL

I have a 03 tl NOTtype S And the CAT BACK will NOT fit the Non type S . PERIOD

ifski

Thanks for all the helpfull feed back, to answer your q.'s, I have a 2002 type-s and yes I am from Cali. up north, but the regulations don't really matter to me.

Anyone know were I can buy an affordable comptech axel cat exhaust ?

bigman

well since you have a type s, a cat back wont net you much. You can do obx headers and 2 magnaflow mufflers intalled for 500. You will gain 20+ horses from that.

joseph_99tl

bigman.
where did you purchase your magnaflow parts?.

NYZGREATST

bigman, i have a tl-p. where can i get the pipe that goes from the headers to the exhause. i already have the comptech exhausts but dont want to pay another 600 for that pipe.

bigman

you can buy a magnaflow y pipe for about 50 bucs and have an exhaust shop put one together for less than 250. You will notice the difference in flow right away. And up high in the rpm will be a different experience.

bigman

since you have comptech mufflers, i believe they are 2.25 inlet, so go with 2.25 inch piping from the cat to the y and get a 2.25 inlet/outlet y pipe. Any more questions, you can hit me up with a pm.

phipark

ummm...try about $1000.

etxxz

WHERE did you get the y pipe for this price??

BTW* if you can, this is a 30-45min swap, and there's no real need to even lift the car. 3bolts gets the y-pipe off with the mufflers. swap mufflers. bolt back on. (mufflers held by rubber, if you ever played w/ LEGOyou'll figure it out. 1/10 difficulty.)

ifski

hey big man, do you have any pix of the magnaflow? is the sound same as comptech. i was just going to get the axle comptech and call it a day. since im from cali i dont think i can do the whole headers to exhaust deal (thats what i think).

@cUr@-TL

i have the same setup as bigman, and from the sound clip i heard, magnaflows sounds better than comptech, but it's a matter of personal preference i guess..

i get a lot of compliments about the sound of my car so i guess im not the only one who thinks it sounds nice!

here are 2 pics of my setup:




@cUr@-TL

etxxz

be a good sport and tell us how much/where to get this please.

@cUr@-TL

i paid around 550$US for it installed. but you can prolly find cheaper in the US.


the parts were around 350 and install was like 200.. from what i remember.. i can take a look at the bills when i get home if ya want.


i think it's the best setup you can get, and it's pretty cheap too!



@cUr@-TL

joseph_99tl

i'd like the part list.
that would be excellent.
it is hard to tell what exactly to order.

bigman

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joseph_99tl

i guess it's the 'the piping was done by an exhaust shop' part that i am concerned.

which kind of leads up to getting the mufflers to line up nicely.

no rattles.

plus it looks like the magnaflow y-pipe is shaped different.

joseph_99tl

so the piping..

1. between the outlet cat and inlet resonator.
2. and between the outlet resonator and inlet Y-pipe.
3. then outlet Y-pipe and inlet mufflers.

is all custom...right?.

:gheywave:

etxxz

wow, let me get this straight...you paid 300 for the tips or tips w/ ypipe? PLEASE TELL ME WHERE?

200 for installation is a ripoff...this takes any regular person 1hr with the car lifted on 1side, on the ground and doing it for the first time...for a shop it takes them like 30minutes since they have those hyd lifts and people who do exhasts all day long.

btw* this is my 900th post.

@cUr@-TL

aight im at home now and lookin at the bills

installation was 185$ (paid no taxes). they had to take off the stock exhaust, mandrel bend the piping, weld everything, make custom brackets, align the mufflers, etc.

parts were 350$ (paid no taxes)

btw congrats for your 900 posts, next step is 1000!

joseph_99TL: yup that's right

@cUr@-TL

etxxz

oh, now the $185labor makes sense...im guessing they ordered the parts and you paid the grand total when you got the car back.

yup, next is 1000, come to think about it thats a lotta time i've spent reading stuff here...its cool...im thinking about getting mine custome done at this place...but first i gotta repair my ww kit:
-http://www.acura-tl.com/forums/showthread.php?p=965946#post965946

how's that TB working for you?

@cUr@-TL

TB is working great except gaz pedal is sticky sometimes i'll have to look into that.

it makes my car sound like it's turbo it makes a hissing sound! i love it

ifski

Wow, That Sounded Really Good. Thanks For The Pix And Sound Clips. I Really Didnt Think You Was Goining To Go Through With It.

Your The Man, Im Sorry "the Big Man[u]"

@cUr@-TL

it sounds waaaaaay better in person too!!

joseph_99tl

i'm definitely doing this magnaflow exhaust.
i just have to a parts dealer.

in NJ.

bigman

Thanks man. I think have converted so many people on this board over to the dark side of Magnaflow.

subtledreamer

damn. that sounds so nice...

someone wasnt wearing his seatbealts though

joseph_99tl

bigman.
where did you get the magnaflow parts?.

bigman

De Dona Enterprises
560 Yonkers Ave.
914-965-4444

they are real scumbags with cursing problems. But they are the cheapest and closest dealers for Magnaflow. Also it would be wise to hurry and get the mufflers. Magnaflow is revamping their line up.

joseph_99tl

is this the Y-pipe part info?.

Part # 10758
List Price $66.56
You Save $36.50
Your Price $30.06
Description Hardware;
Y-Pipe, In/Out 2.25" Dual, 2.5" Single, Len 10"

joseph_99tl

is this the resonator part info?.

14461
XL Powerpack, Unpolished Stainless Steel,
4" Case, 2.25" Core, Len 22"
$44.50

joseph_99tl

did the muffler shop have to bend the Y-pipe?.

bigman

i never got the part number for the y pipe or the resonator. The size of the resonator is up to the sound you want, the smaller it is the loder but raspier you car will be, the longer it is the deeper your car will sound. I went with an 18 ince one. And no, the shop did not bend the Y.