yeedatoy

I'm looking at the mount kits on Ebay with the lifetime warranty. Is anyone familiar with these sets and If they hold up better than the OEM mounts? I figure you can't go wrong with a lifetime warranty, but who wants to keep having to pull out mounts every 20k? The plan is to install an engine damper kit at the same time to hopefully help prevent premature failure. Any input is appreciated.

EL_PIC

A lot of Ebay auto parts are made in China.
There is reason to question ...

yeedatoy

True, but I do 90% of my online shopping on ebay and normally don't run into quality issues. The OEM mounts don't seem to be sufficient either, or there is another issue causing them to fail. These mount kits sold on Ebay aren't specific to Ebay, many of these parts that people label an "Ebay brand" are the same after market parts many other websites or part stores sell. I should have posted in the original post that these are "MotorKing" mounts, they are sold on may sites if you throw the name into Google shopping.

Karanx7

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They will be shitty quality. I doub't they will be vac assisted, and changing the rear mount every year will suck balls. Also expect more vibrations.

bl3ujay07

My brother bought me a set of front and side from rockauto. no vac assistance. During idle, you can feel a SLIGHT vibration, but nothing really annoying (as my two previous cars had soild mounts). However, if i had the money and was to pay for it myself, i would have gone with OEM or try to find some with vac assistance.

yeedatoy

Thanks, these are the vac assisted mounts. With the OEM mounts failing so often I'm hesitant to purchase them, especially considering the price difference. These are around $130 shipped for all three with a lifetime warranty. Rockauto sells these as well as Amazon and some other places but there are no reviews.

bl3ujay07

vac assistance? Life time warranty? hmm..if you do order, give us an update.

assclown

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poly fill

Excelerate

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If you are looking for a more durable engine mount set you should consider our XLR8 motor mounts:

http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-411798.aspx

XLR8 Performance’s Engine Mounts were engineered with longevity, performance and value in mind. Many Acura enthusiasts are having issues with broken motor mounts. These mounts are heavy duty mild steel mounts that have been coated with a satin black finish and improved polyurethane bushings that range in firmness. Controlling the durometer of the polyurethane inserts minimizes engine movement. We offer 3 different durometers of inserts, which are available at no additional cost. When ordering, specify whether you want: Street (62A) or Strip (75A) polyurethane inserts. The polyurethane inserts also have a lifetime warranty.

yeedatoy

XLR8, do you feel like the engine damper will help improve motor mount life or is the main issue the design of the stock mounts?

Karanx7

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Have you read his mount thread? In the early stages, he discussed the design with AZine, and how it should be changed. I read it too long ago, but it was something about horizontal vs vertical blah blah.

yeedatoy

Hmmmm, I'll have to take a look. Thanks! I have to make a decision on this quick! Good thing its tax season.

gold2003tl (90)

iv been running the Ingalls Stiffy ETD for while now, its adjusted to almost maximum preload and dampening stiffness. Engine stays in place with almost no movement, minimal vibrations at idle in D5. One of the best things iv ever done to my car. Id say for daily driving all you would need would be the Ingalls Stiffy ETD on new stock mounts, if you want more get the XLR8 poly mounts along with the ETD.

I wonder if vibrations are an issue with the poly mounts from XLR8?

Excelerate

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Yes, the damper will help reduce engine movement, which will reduce stress on the engine mounts. INGALLS makes a good ETD for your vehicle:

http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-389457.aspx

If you want a more durable mount set though our XLR8 mounts would be the best choice. They do have polyurethane inserts so they will be firmer than stock mounts and transfer more vibration but it isn't that much with the street bushings.

yeedatoy

Thanks for the info, this is the route I'll go with the exception being I'll try these OEM replacements on Ebay. Gotta love a stiffy

yeedatoy

Pm'd sir

gold2003tl (90)

haha

well id stay away from an ebay oem replacement mount. make sure its vac assisted if you do.

yeedatoy

They are, lifetime warranty. Found em on amazon for the same price of $130 shipped since Paypal is pulling some identity authorization crap thats taking too long! Picked up an Icebox while I was at it!

gold2003tl (90)

also, if you get the stiffy, make sure you adjust it to a stiffer setting and add more preload. out of the box its basically worthless, it contains instructions on how to adjust it you just need a few big wrenches.

AcuraCls6speed

Thread from a while back i know! I hate my stock mounts and I have been reading about aftermarket mounts and a lot of guys say that the aftermarket poly gets all messed up really fast? Its hard to believe it... I want somebody to answer a question for me and tell me straight up if the xlr8 mounts will acturally last me.

MilwaukeeDave

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They'll last.

AcuraCls6speed

Thanks for the reply but i have to ask. Do you have them on your car?

MilwaukeeDave

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Yup I have the 62A bushing mounts on mine.

Excelerate

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We had the XLR8 mounts made because the factory mounts and the other aftermarket brand didn't last. Our XLR8 mounts with polyurethane bushings last. They are durable and will last longer than the OE mounts and will be able to withstand more abuse.

AcuraCls6speed

Thank you for your comment. I am still trying to decide if I want to buy the motorking mounts or your mounts. Hard to decide. I had poly on my ls1 trans am and they only caused vibrations when first put in but it went away within a week or 2. Is this the case with your mounts also? Will there be more noise in my car overall?

MilwaukeeDave

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How long do you intend to keep this car?? If for a long time then I'd suggest the XLR8 mounts so that you only need install them once. It's not a fun job.

cisgwaping

Hey everyone. So I have EXLR8 mounts 62A and have some vibration when in D5, well I guess this is expected for aftermarket mounts. Just a question tho... If I buy and install the Ingalls ETD, there will be less vibrations when in D5?

victus1

The Ingalls ETD will stiffen it up more, hence more pronounced vibrations. Do a search, as some who have it have reported the extra vibrations.

You can try a custom solution with the EXLR8 mounts, like cutting a piece of softer rubber (than that on the mounts) and placing it on top of the front mount. You don't even need to remove the mount to do this....just the bracket on top. If you got less vibrations with this, then doing the rear will help even more. The oem mounts employ a similar rubber piece to reduce/eliminate vibrations.

MilwaukeeDave

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There's nowhere really to put a piece of rubber on the XLR8 mounts due to the design of them. You could try on the top but it would be inbetween 2 metal parts so I can't see it lasting long. Honestly if you want no vibration then I do not suggest these mounts. These are a fixed mount made only of steel and the poly bushing. I'd recommend them if: 1 - you like to drive hard and/or 2 - you have no desire to change the mounts more than once. It really wasn't an enjoyable job for me doing the rear mount so I'm happy I bought the XLR8 mounts because I intend to keep this car as long as possible.

Excelerate

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There is some vibration but with the 62A bushings it's minimal IMO. The mounts will "break in" over time. It will increase drivetrain noise in the cabin a touch because there's a more direct feeling.

No it will increase vibrations since it will make the motor move even less.

MilwaukeeDave

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The main thing is this: the vibration is idle only. Soon as you step on the gas it's the same as oem. If you're a really good mechanic and don't mind changing the mounts every 20-50,000 miles then stick w oem mounts. If you'd rather do it once and be set, I'd highly suggest the XLR8 mounts for your vehicle.

MilwaukeeDave

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Here's a pic of the front mount. These should give you an idea how they are. I love mine.


This is the only one I could reach to take a pic of.

Skirmich

Its still funny to think how the Engine Basically just Sits on top of these Little Bolts...

3.2TLc

That's probably Ol Mil's reasoning for the EXLR8 mounts !
Remember the saying about " the straw that broke the camel's back " ???
It's too bad that the bolt's and nut's are rusting !

fsttyms1

When my motor comes out to put the new one in im fabricating dog bone style mounts like GM uses on just about every one of their motors to keep the motors in place.


Something like this. Maybe attached to the firewall or something. All i know is our motors need an upper support.

3.2TLc

Do the newer gen TL's have an improved design of mounts to deal with all of that thrusting torque ?

MilwaukeeDave

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I actually cleaned all the bolts and shit up too. They were worse before. Pitch black covere in road grime. That bracket too. I cleaned a ton of gunk up in there. I woulda been ashamed to show it before cause it was plain bad but it's way better now. Still not terrible for an 11 year old Wisconsin car. I'll get her nice and clean.

victus1

I've been spraying the mount bolts and other areas in the engine bay with some RustCheck rust preventer since I got the car. My bolts came out as if nothing when I replaced the mounts. They didn't even look bad. I even sprayed each new mount, its bolts, threads and mounting holes before installing it.

3.2TLc

Yeah, if ya live in a "rust belt' .....every little bit of extra effort pays off down the road, if there is a next time. Ya never really know if you'll be the next one to work on the stuff. Always good to think positively ! Even if ya don't need to go back in, ya may be helping the next person.....and in the meantime, it just looks better !

MilwaukeeDave

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The good thing is only the tops are bad. They came out fairly easily and looked new on the threads. They can rust now lol the mount should last forever.