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Old 03-10-2003 | 03:13 AM
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Acura CL v. 350Z

Hey guys I need your input.

Since my friend got his 2002 CL-S, he's been smokin my 99TL (stock except for headers). He wants to race my new 350Z and keeps telling me how much he's going to smoke me. I haven't raced him yet because I want to break my 350Z in for the first 500 miles. Last time I looked he had headers and exhaust. (but I'm sure he has air intake and other stuff by now). Still think I have a good chance on him? (going back to manual tran is a btch but love the 6 speed) (damn sportshift got me all mixed up)
Old 03-10-2003 | 03:16 AM
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And my 350Z is stock and will stay that way since its leased.
Old 03-10-2003 | 07:32 AM
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Are the new 350Z's based on the Infinti G35 engines? How many horses? With RWD it shouldn't be any match.

Concerning RWD does anyone know why Acura/Honda is slow to adopt RWD? You'd think with their success with the SUV's and S2000's they'd had it in the RL's and TL's five years ago.
Old 03-10-2003 | 07:52 AM
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Your Z car will whip his ass as long as you learn how to shift.
That car is an animal.
Old 03-10-2003 | 08:51 AM
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yea it is..... You'll absolutley kill him. The 350Z has 287 HP, and the G35 has 7 less hp, and is 200 lbs heavier.
Old 03-10-2003 | 08:52 AM
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I would delay racing until you have a good amount of miles on that VQ engine, At least 3000 if not more.

Once you are ready to race, make sure you know the best rpm clutch drop you can make for optimal jump off the line without spinning the tires too. Once you got this and you perfected your shifting with that Z shifter you should have no problem beating him in a straight line race and also in the twisties.

Sounds like fun.
Old 03-10-2003 | 09:37 AM
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unless you dunno how to shift.
u definitely smoke him.
Old 03-10-2003 | 11:21 AM
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Here we go again.

It's faster because:

it's got rear wheel drive
more HP
more torque
yadda yadda yadda.

I've heard this over and over about how the SC430 would whip me, or the 330i, last-gen M3, etc.

Well in case you folks missed it, I beat the SC430, two different ones.

So while the Z is technically faster than a stock Type-S, it is too close to call when it comes to a modded Type-S.

Since the Z in reference here is still new, I'll place my odds on the modded Type-S.

Stay tuned as the discussion over on the CL boards is that my next challenge is a G35 or even Z350, or should I say next victim.

Ruf
Old 03-10-2003 | 11:59 AM
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Ruf87 what mods do you have on your CL? My dad always tells me that front wheel drive has more control over rear wheel drive, but it also lacks the punch. (I had the discussion way back before I bought the TL cuz I didn't want a front wheel driver car then) (glad he changed my mind tho)
Old 03-10-2003 | 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by hzm82
Ruf87 what mods do you have on your CL? My dad always tells me that front wheel drive has more control over rear wheel drive, but it also lacks the punch. (I had the discussion way back before I bought the TL cuz I didn't want a front wheel driver car then) (glad he changed my mind tho)
Front wheel drive, in my opinion was made popular because of its 'general' traction advantage in wet, ice and or snowy conditions.

Personally, I prefer rear wheel drive. Better for daily driving and or racing - all the way around.

As for mods,

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Old 03-10-2003 | 03:09 PM
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How about all wheel drive then! Next TL/CL should have that.
Old 03-10-2003 | 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by Ruf87
Here we go again.

It's faster because:

it's got rear wheel drive
more HP
more torque
yadda yadda yadda.

I've heard this over and over about how the SC430 would whip me, or the 330i, last-gen M3, etc.

Well in case you folks missed it, I beat the SC430, two different ones.

So while the Z is technically faster than a stock Type-S, it is too close to call when it comes to a modded Type-S.

Since the Z in reference here is still new, I'll place my odds on the modded Type-S.

Stay tuned as the discussion over on the CL boards is that my next challenge is a G35 or even Z350, or should I say next victim.

Ruf
There's no way....NO WAY you can compare the performance of the SC430 (luxury roadster) with that of the 350Z (sports car). Just going by weight alone, the Z is about 500lbs lighter than the SC. Not too mention it packs a 6sp manual tranny where the SC is auto only. And if the Z-driver can drive, he'll run upper 13s stock.

Just no comparison there. Dont be misled!!
Old 03-10-2003 | 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by VQ35DE


There's no way....NO WAY you can compare the performance of the SC430 (luxury roadster) with that of the 350Z (sports car). Just going by weight alone, the Z is about 500lbs lighter than the SC. Not too mention it packs a 6sp manual tranny where the SC is auto only. And if the Z-driver can drive, he'll run upper 13s stock.

Just no comparison there. Dont be misled!!


If upper 13s are possible, where are those numbers.

No being misled here. It's the fact Jack.

Also, do you know what times the SC430 is capable of hitting 60 in? You want to try under 6 seconds.

I've heard this for some many years. All these car mag specialists.

It's why I love going out and whipping up on these "soo very fast cars".

Ruf
Old 03-10-2003 | 07:33 PM
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350Z 5.4 0-60 and 14.1 1/4 mile C&D mag.

Here is the link
Old 03-10-2003 | 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by JPTLS21
350Z 5.4 0-60 and 14.1 1/4 mile C&D mag.

Here is the link
Thanks for helping me in my quest.

I like my meat . . . fast

Especially when folks think they are going to go out and duplicate those "car rag" results.

Which 99% don't.

Just like that 3.5 V6 "Type-S eating" Altima.

Yep, the last 2 tasted like, uh, chicken. And they weren't even close to being as good of a race as the SC430 was. Blew past the last one that messed with me and whipped him like the jerk he was.

So throw all the "car rag" results you guys want. It's that much more satisfying when they go down.

BTW - the last race between me and the SC430, the SC430 would have had to run a 14.075 to beat me. So it looks like the Z350 will be a pretty good challenge. And if the guy can drive half way decent, then ol Ruf may go down.

But hey, it's all in fun so don't get too wrapped up in all those specs. They don't mean much when you get face to face.

Ruf
Old 03-10-2003 | 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by Ruf87


Just like that 3.5 V6 "Type-S eating" Altima.
Ruf
magazine racing is useless. I beat my friends 2003 3.5 V6 Altima 4/4 races by at least half a car length. And I don't even drive a TypeS. Just a stock 2003 TL.

Nissan and their ugly cars. I also personally think the 350Z is ugly. It kinda reminds me of my brown loafers. It kinda looks like a shoe. I saw a brown one the other day, it really looked like a shoe. :p
Old 03-10-2003 | 11:49 PM
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magazine racing is useless. I beat my friends 2003 3.5 V6 Altima 4/4 races by at least half a car length. And I don't even drive a TypeS. Just a stock 2003 TL.

Nissan and their ugly cars. I also personally think the 350Z is ugly. It kinda reminds me of my brown loafers. It kinda looks like a shoe. I saw a brown one the other day, it really looked like a shoe. :p
Eww brown? I personally think any car that is brown just look like Sh(t. My nice blue 350Z doesn't look half bad
Old 03-11-2003 | 12:24 AM
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I'm just kidding, the 350Z is a nice car. Just the brown one I saw the other day looked .... not so good.
Old 03-11-2003 | 01:24 AM
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I want a 350Z but Nissan dealers will not honor VPP on Z's. They are in high demand and not enough cars.
Old 03-11-2003 | 05:18 AM
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I'm getting my G35 coupe soon
Old 03-11-2003 | 09:30 AM
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I have raced a 350Z (dead heat) and a g35 coupe (beat him by less than 1/3 of a car). RWD doesnt make a diff, more HP without launch skills doesnt help either. Both of those car were stock. I have mods (check the sig). I bet a CL-S 6SPD with the same mods would rip the Z a new A-hole


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Old 03-11-2003 | 09:44 AM
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I want a 350Z but Nissan dealers will not honor VPP on Z's. They are in high demand and not enough cars.
350Z is a great car man, hope you get yours.
Old 03-11-2003 | 03:03 PM
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350Z is a great car man, hope you get yours.
Dittos.

And please don't misunderstand my posts as bashing the Z350. Not at all.

I'm just an old street/strip racer of 25+ year experience, built my own engine, set up my own rearends, etc.

I also used to work at a dealership and still have friends who do.

Most of these tests results are just that. Test results and representations of what these cars are capable of. Many times the actual cars and or test conditions are not representative of the actual car or typical conditions. Yes, some are even "tweaked" so that a manufacturer has some bragging rights.

Bottom-line, your results will vary based on a large number of things. So no two cars will perform exactly alike, and no to drivers break in their cars or drive their cars the same. Way too many variables.

So don't get hung up on all this hubbub and enjoy that nice car.

Ruf
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