8000k H.I.D
02-10-2002, 12:32 AM
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8000k H.I.D
What do you guys think about 8000K H.I.D ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...item=601727113
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...item=601727113
02-10-2002, 02:16 AM
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I think he's bull****ting. they're probably just 6000k
He said porsche,bmw,acuara has been using 8000k. haha yeah right. oem are usually 4200k and the new phillips one are 6000k.
if you go up to 8000k that's when it starts to look bluer than white.
He said porsche,bmw,acuara has been using 8000k. haha yeah right. oem are usually 4200k and the new phillips one are 6000k.
if you go up to 8000k that's when it starts to look bluer than white.
02-10-2002, 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by ssk0771
From what I know, Japanese car usally uses 4100K HID and German cars use 6000K HID like BMW. This is the reason why BMW's lights are little more blueish.
From what I know, Japanese car usally uses 4100K HID and German cars use 6000K HID like BMW. This is the reason why BMW's lights are little more blueish.
the 6000k bulbs aren't legal in the states OR europe (as printed on the bulbs
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02-10-2002, 08:16 PM
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hehehe...i did see 7000K tho. Just came out. And I gotta say....too bright. and it's very blue! or you can choose purple. the new 7000K is made by Hella Industries.
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02-10-2002, 08:57 PM
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if there made buy hella they are probably really expensive cause alot of the time hella products are expensive
if there made buy hella they are probably really expensive cause alot of the time hella products are expensive
02-10-2002, 08:59 PM
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Nah, there is 8000k, check it out....http://www.autolites.net And they arent street legal, but who gives a flying f*ck?
02-11-2002, 10:11 AM
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I wouldnt go past 6000k. That is just too damn bright. I mean, have some consideration for the people around you. It's bad enough that half of the stare into stock hids like bugs, but anything above 6000k is just too much. Also, wouldnt the heat melt the headlight housing?
02-11-2002, 02:17 PM
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I heard about them 10000K kits, coming out in another 2 days on e-bay. It's so bluish/purple that it acts like a black-light so that only things which are white on the road get illuminated. But be careful when viewing from certain angles, you might get bombarded with small does of ultraviolet radiation which may cause retinal damage.
But that sheeetttss gonna be da bomb!!!
Seriously, I don't think the light scale goes up to 10000k or even 8000k for that matter. That 8000K kit from K2 (I heard for real somewhere) are blue-tinted 6000K bulbs and the output is so blue there is almost no difference between them and the crappy blue-tinted halogen bulbs.
But that sheeetttss gonna be da bomb!!!
Seriously, I don't think the light scale goes up to 10000k or even 8000k for that matter. That 8000K kit from K2 (I heard for real somewhere) are blue-tinted 6000K bulbs and the output is so blue there is almost no difference between them and the crappy blue-tinted halogen bulbs.
02-11-2002, 04:14 PM
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Actually they make bulbs in whatever K you want them I believe.
Here is a pic of 20k's on somones fishtank. The 20000k give a very very deep purple light. Not very bright tho.
I have no idea how this works in car lighting...but with aquarium lighting, the more K you have, the less the light output is.
The left is 6500k and the right is lit by a 20000k.
http://www.reefsplendor.com/pages/lighting/mh.html <-- bulbs available for fishtanks
Here is a pic of 20k's on somones fishtank. The 20000k give a very very deep purple light. Not very bright tho.
I have no idea how this works in car lighting...but with aquarium lighting, the more K you have, the less the light output is.
The left is 6500k and the right is lit by a 20000k.
http://www.reefsplendor.com/pages/lighting/mh.html <-- bulbs available for fishtanks
02-11-2002, 09:19 PM
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The "K" rating of a light bulb is the equivalent color that an ideal "black body" will emit when heated to that temperature (K stands for Kelvins, a unit of temperature). In the case of a light bulb, it tells you the color temperature of its dominant spectral component.
So the color temperature (that's what those numbers mean) of a bulb tells you their color, not their brightness.
A good estimate of wavelength as a function of color temperature is: Wavelength in nm = 2,900,000 / color temperature in K. So a 4200K light source has a predominant spectral component at 690nm, which is still well in the red part of the visible spectrum.
A 6000K light has a predominant spectral component at 483nm, well into the blue region. An 8000K light goes up to 363nm, which is well in the UV region!
A 10000K light is useful for suntanning.
(By the way: yes, those fishtank "black lights" emit mainly UV. It makes the corals glow).
Remember though that the color temperature usually only refers to the dominant spectral component, and not the spectral power distribution, which is arguably more important. In fact, what blue filters do is cut down light output on all but the "desired" dominant frequency, so they can advertise a "higher temperature" bulb. What you get in the end is simply a dimmer bulb!
So the color temperature (that's what those numbers mean) of a bulb tells you their color, not their brightness.
A good estimate of wavelength as a function of color temperature is: Wavelength in nm = 2,900,000 / color temperature in K. So a 4200K light source has a predominant spectral component at 690nm, which is still well in the red part of the visible spectrum.
A 6000K light has a predominant spectral component at 483nm, well into the blue region. An 8000K light goes up to 363nm, which is well in the UV region!
A 10000K light is useful for suntanning.(By the way: yes, those fishtank "black lights" emit mainly UV. It makes the corals glow).
Remember though that the color temperature usually only refers to the dominant spectral component, and not the spectral power distribution, which is arguably more important. In fact, what blue filters do is cut down light output on all but the "desired" dominant frequency, so they can advertise a "higher temperature" bulb. What you get in the end is simply a dimmer bulb!
02-11-2002, 09:37 PM
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so what you are saying is that I should get the 6000k kit instead of the 8000k cause although the 8000k is a higher temp, it will be dimmer and it will essentially be the same color as the 6000k? 
02-12-2002, 03:13 AM
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daverman:
How dare you inject sanity and engineering! I want my 40K bulbs...and a good pair of UV glasses...that way I can see the road perfectly but no one will see me
And I can give my buddy I'm following a good tan!
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How dare you inject sanity and engineering! I want my 40K bulbs...and a good pair of UV glasses...that way I can see the road perfectly but no one will see me
And I can give my buddy I'm following a good tan!Austin519
02-12-2002, 12:42 PM
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I had an oppotunity of seeing 6K HID kit on a 2K Grand Cherokee Limited... IMO, I would stick with 4000K+ bulbs instead... 6K bulbs look VERY purple-ish, looks cool I admit, but IMO, doesn't light up the road as well as 4000K ones.... maybe it's just me... but, I would stick with 4000K.... besides, it already looks very bluish with OEM bulbs.... and I want White/Bluish light, instead of Purple-ish... which looks like brand name HID-Alike Halogen bulbs... :p Sorry, no offends to those already have 6K bulbs...
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02-12-2002, 01:10 PM
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i have the 6000k bulbs and they look NOTHING like fake HID halogens.
and you are also talking about a jeep grand cherokee w/o stock HID's, so it may be due to the conversion also or maybe he was just pulling your chain and has just the fake hid halogen bulbs.
and you are also talking about a jeep grand cherokee w/o stock HID's, so it may be due to the conversion also or maybe he was just pulling your chain and has just the fake hid halogen bulbs.
02-12-2002, 05:29 PM
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Heres another piece of scientific knowledge thrown into the mix. Remember that when you are looking at the brightness of a bulb, what you care about it how many Lumens the bulb outputs. Thats the measure of its brightness. The color temp is the color the bulb outputs.
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02-12-2002, 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by AKRY
but, I would stick with 4000K.... besides, it already looks very bluish with OEM bulbs.... and I want White/Bluish light, instead of Purple-ish... which looks like brand name HID-Alike Halogen bulbs... :p Sorry, no offends to those already have 6K bulbs...
Andy Kuo
but, I would stick with 4000K.... besides, it already looks very bluish with OEM bulbs.... and I want White/Bluish light, instead of Purple-ish... which looks like brand name HID-Alike Halogen bulbs... :p Sorry, no offends to those already have 6K bulbs...
Andy Kuo
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Sorry. I couldnt resist. Too funny.
02-12-2002, 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by Reefers3.2TL
The 6000k bulbs make any halogen bulbs look like garbage. As far as the fake HID halogens go???
The 6000k bulbs make any halogen bulbs look like garbage. As far as the fake HID halogens go???
02-12-2002, 05:59 PM
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Actually, 6000K bulbs make 4300K bulbs look like halogen. I know this from personal experience. When I pull up to any car with factory xenon you can hardly tell the other car has HID.
02-12-2002, 06:34 PM
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I just went and took some pics for you guys. My headlights are 6000K as well as the projectors which are true Hella HID projectors. Not some crappy aftermarket stuff. First pic is all 6000K. Sorry but my car is dirty. :p
02-13-2002, 01:03 AM
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It's very important to look at the spectral power distribution of the bulbs, and not just their dominant color temperature. The ideal lightbulb (to me) would have the same spectral composition as daylight, and would appear white, not red or blue. Its dominant color temperature would be yellow, just like the sun.
However, most yellow-color-temperature bulbs like halogens and incandescents produce basically no light in the blue spectrum, while HIDs, even 4000K ones, produce light across most of the color spectrum.
However, most yellow-color-temperature bulbs like halogens and incandescents produce basically no light in the blue spectrum, while HIDs, even 4000K ones, produce light across most of the color spectrum.
02-13-2002, 06:57 AM
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my 8000k's should be arriving tom'w
:wow: ....i should be getting mine tom'w....if you wait 'till then i should have some pics (maybe a day or so)........jon at autolites.net claimed that they are far superior to anything available now.........
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6000k is about as far as you wanna go. Believe me. My friend installed some Phillips HID kit on his 2002 Accord V6. They literally light up all 4 lanes on his side and the shoulder(5 lanes) and most of the road signs light up crazy. 6000k attracts alot of attention already. Why would you want more? So that you could turn on ur car an night and make anything in the scope of your HID look like day time?
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Another old post 
I wouldn't go past anything past 6000k as well. I remember reading somewhere on this forum that anything past 6000k is actually worse for the light output isn't as great because of the "blue tint." 6000k is supposed to be the point where light outputs seems the best. Just my .02$
I wouldn't go past anything past 6000k as well. I remember reading somewhere on this forum that anything past 6000k is actually worse for the light output isn't as great because of the "blue tint." 6000k is supposed to be the point where light outputs seems the best. Just my .02$