detinater

So here is a little more a technical question, 90% of my swap pieces are in short of the 10% which is the transmission. I've been looking for a few weeks but I haven't found a CL transmission I'm happy with for the price/miles.

So here is the technical question, I want to do the full on swap, not the RV6 harness, I want to swap ECM, harness' ect. I know many members have done this with a CL trans but can you do it with the 04-06 trans or is it going to throw all kinds of lights etc? I'm assuming if you can do it with a TL trans that you need to swap some sensors?

From looking up the part numbers I see they are close to the same:

20011-RDE-C62 (04-06 TL)

20011-PYZ-C62 (03 CL-S)

I'm sure there is someone out there who is much more knowledgeable then I about what all interchanges.

Any thoughts?

Rockstar21

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i dont believe anyone has actually done it yet...

many have said it can be done. but i dont remember anyone getting it put in.

you can use the 03-06 Accord V6 6 speed though, member HAVE done that one.

Silva-type-s

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Phee did his swap with a 3g 6mt tranny

detinater

No LSD though on the Accords

detinater

Didn't Phee use the RV6 harness though? I can't remember.

assclown

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Rockstar21

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thats one of the cheapest parts of a car.

difference between lsd and no lsd is like $200

you can find the accord tranny is MUCH cheaper also, so you save money and get the same thing

Silva-type-s

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i heard lsd by itself is quite expensive

assclown

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IIRC when i was hanging out on estore... the list price for the LSD in the Cl tranny was over a grand...

Rockstar21

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from the dealer.. yes...

anywhere else.. 100-400 bucks

JCharged

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You can use the 3g transmissions. There's not much a difference if any at all.

The harness and everything else from the CL-S shall work. Rewiring will be the hard part, why don't you want to run the RV6 harness? It saves alot of time and money.

The transmission is just a mechanical part, One of my swapped friend's are running a '03 CL-S transmission in his 7th gen accord. (Wanted one with LSD)

assclown

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i've got an 03CL-s tranny sitting right now, just waiting on engine, clutch flywheel, starter and spring break haha.

phee

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u cannot use the tl tranny or the accord tranny without the richie harness. they dont have the 2nd crank sensor that the cl need.

why not use the richie harness? you against saving money?

phee

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not true. LSD from acura is 800 beans and the LSD trans is wzaaaay worth it

Rockstar21

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yes sir, but im talking buying by other means... most honda/acura lsd components are sold for less then half that.

trick is finding one.

hANDYcaptd

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This.

phee

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yes. and the associated parts. then u gotta take the trans apart and recheck the differential pre-load with a special tool that is no longer sold by honda.

Cozmo

Does anybody know anything about differences in gear ratios between the different transmission options? I imagine the CL-S would have shorter gears than the accord.

JCharged

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Same.

adamlee05

You'll have a constant code, 03 CLS 6 trannies are the only ones with the additional crank sensor on the clutch housing. If you're using the CL6 ECU you have to have the sensor as well as the CL6 flywheel, it has the timing tabs built onto it.

If you already have the CL6 flywheel, you could find a cheap Accord 6MT tranny and change the clutch housing to a CL6 one, then just pop the sensor into place.

adamlee05

They're all the same

CL6 w/ LSD:
1st: 3.933
2nd: 2.478
3rd: 1.700
4th: 1.250
5th: 0.976
6th: 0.771
Final drive: 3.286

Accord 6 w/o LSD:
1st: 3.933
2nd: 2.478
3rd: 1.700
4th: 1.250
5th: 0.976
6th: 0.771
Final drive: 3.286

TL 6 w/ LSD:
1st: 3.933
2nd: 2.478
3rd: 1.700
4th: 1.250
5th: 0.976
6th: 0.771
Final drive: 3.286 (listed as 3.285 by Honda, is a typo)

Cozmo

Awesome thanks. It seems that the 3g one is the winner then.

detinater

No it's more a matter of time, the car has been sitting since December and I'm getting antsy. I would do the RV6 harness but he seems to be really behind on getting them out. How many people are waiting for a harness just on Acurazine?

If he could get one to me within the month I'd do it but I'm not sure it's a possibility. No offense ment to Richie, I know he's probably knee deep in requests for these things.

phee

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i got my harness a week after payment...

he is quick on getting them out. gotta sign up on the other site. if u pm him he can bump u up if this is the only thing you need.

phee

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or u can keep waiting until the cl6 tranny comes along.

detinater

If he's that quick then it won't be an issue, I'm waiting for the weather to warm up before I jump in on this. Do you have a link to the other site, I know I talked to him once and he put my name on the list but I want to double check, I'll also PM him.

Thanks

assclown

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http://www..net/forums/showthread.php?t=73383

Cozmo

http://www.v6 performance.net/forums/showthread.php?t=73383

assclown

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ooops i dunno how that got truncated

Cozmo

Yeah I was about to flame you then I realized that it is the forum software doing it.. try it. You can't put v6 performance (as one word) because they filter it out. I guess they don't like people linking to other forums so they treat it like a bad word.

phee

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yup. remove spaces and go to the 6 speed obsession thread. last pagwe

Cozmo

That thread is painfully long, and mostly consists of people asking the same few questions over and over, 50% of which is "when will mine be ready?" :P

assclown

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i read it all and yes it was very long, but very helpful too