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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 04:44 PM
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What are you guys with stock TL-S engines getting for top apparent speeds? Over in the RSX forum they're having this discussion with lots of moralists and their views on 'speeding' and 'safety'. Let's just talk facts here and presume open flat road used intelligently and no other cars around (unless they're in the rear-view mirror) . What does your TL-S ('99-'03) top out at if you've gotten it there or close, and at what RPM's?

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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My buddy's stock 2000 TL-P got up to 135 with 5 passengers.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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145 with me and my girl loved it and it handled and was so smooth at that speed

we were at about 4200 RPM's

2002 TL-S
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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People on here have gotten close to 155 on flat to downhill grades in the TL-S and TL-P, it just takes awhile after 130ish to climb there. I personally have only taken this car to 135 with myself in it before I had to slow down.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Larrymotormon
What does your TL-S ('99-'03) top out at if you've gotten it there or close, and at what RPM's?
TL-S was only made in 02 and 03. I've had my TL-P to 147 once, but that was over 2 years ago. Was in the lower-mid 4K's.
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 01:24 AM
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top speed is around 152 ish, ive hit 140 a few times
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 01:40 AM
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once again...top speed is 149, TL-P or TL-S. The guages arent very accurate over 130mph. The ECU will cut fuel to slow you down when it registers 149mph, but the electrical signal strength to the gauges, and their calibration, is usually off by that point, giving the appearance of a slower or faster speed.

Just throwing that out there
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 01:43 AM
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i thougt there was no top speed limiter, just a rev limiter cutoff?
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 01:46 AM
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nope. Forgot where I read it, but the service guys at the local Honda/Acura dealerships agree.

Shit, I'd love to proven wrong, really. A TL realistically going 170 would be badass.
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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135 racing another type s on the highway in 4th gear after vtech...kept my eyes on road not gauges
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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topped my tl-s out at 147. theres a speed governor so i cant go faster
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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i got mine to 142mph just last night and it felt like it could of did 155 but i bitched out and slowed down
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by orgnlprankster7
i thougt there was no top speed limiter, just a rev limiter cutoff?
There are both speed limiter (my speedo said 147 when the speed limiter kicked in) and a rev limiter (which does not take speed into consideration, only RPM)
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 04:51 AM
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145 racing an Impala, ran out of room. and hit a 45 zone so I had to slow down. I think Icould have gone faster though......... not sure wha rpm's.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 05:37 AM
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(here in the uk) i raced my friend's 4 door g35 and i got to almost 155 (tho it took forever once 5th gear kicked in @ 135). i didnt feel any limiter. but we had to slow down, as the uk version of ricers were "trying" to keep up.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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I've heard that 5th gear is an overdrive, so top speed is reached in 4th.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by AMGala
I've heard that 5th gear is an overdrive, so top speed is reached in 4th.
That's correct. At 147, my RPMs were ~6000 I believe. Don't remember exactly, but I was definitely in the VTEC range. SS mode of course
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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Damn whoever gets their stock tl-p to go to 150 probly waited a long ass time!
I had 3 people in my tl-p and it seemed to take forever to get to 100+
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 11:13 PM
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i went 147 and the governor stopped me from going any faster. surprisingly tl-p's has a higher top speed than the tl-s's but are slower
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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Top speed of tl-p vs tl-s

The TL-P has a higher top speed? How does this happen? Any specs on their gearing... don't they use the same notorious transaxle w/ the same gears?

Technically, too, isn't fourth gear overdrive also... it is in the
newer ones since it's ratio is less (or more, depending on how you look at it) than one to one.?

Also, are there any ECU chips or programming out there which doesn't cut back on fuel at the top end?

Does the car float much over 135? My old Prelude would float so bad over 110 I'd have to either ease off or launch 'er!
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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Top speed TL-P or TL-S 149 or 155? A winner every time!

Adamlee, where does your info come from? You sound confident.


Originally Posted by adamlee05
once again...top speed is 149, TL-P or TL-S. The guages arent very accurate over 130mph. The ECU will cut fuel to slow you down when it registers 149mph, but the electrical signal strength to the gauges, and their calibration, is usually off by that point, giving the appearance of a slower or faster speed.

Just throwing that out there
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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my tlp was clocked on radar at 157. i have since gotten it to 150 with the manual when the ecu intervened. The Tl-Ps dont have a higher topspeed. they are all limited to 149. My limiter was lazy when it kicked in on the TL-P

Originally Posted by kinghost1
Damn whoever gets their stock tl-p to go to 150 probly waited a long ass time!
I had 3 people in my tl-p and it seemed to take forever to get to 100+
You might be surprised on how little time it takes. Learn to shift and hold gears longer and it doesnt take much time at all
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Larrymotormon
Adamlee, where does your info come from? You sound confident.
if it doesnt kick in at 150 the speedo is typically off. I cant explain mine geting as high as it did but radar told me the correct #
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Larrymotormon

Also, are there any ECU chips or programming out there which doesn't cut back on fuel at the top end?

Does the car float much over 135? My old Prelude would float so bad over 110 I'd have to either ease off or launch 'er!
No there arent any chips or reprogramming.

What year lude? mine was rock solid at 140+
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Larrymotormon
Adamlee, where does your info come from? You sound confident.
I read a service manual on our cars once, thats the first time I saw it say 149. Second, personal expeirence. Third, Kris. And lastly, I'm friends with a lot of techs @ the local Honda/Acura store, my friend owns 3 dealerships.

As for the voltage to the gauges, thats common sense. Our cars are calibrated for lower-mid speeds for a more accurate reading at those speeds, since most people dont drive over 80-85mph in these cars. It makes sense that Honda would engineer is that way so people would look at their guages and be as close to accurate speeds as possible so they wouldnt get tickets a lot. Honda didn't intend for people to take a 4-door luxury sedan over 100 that often, especially not 150+, so the reading isnt nearly as accurate.



Kris what year prelude did you have? I'm assuming you got rid of it about the time you got the TL?

Ludes are great cars IMO, just heavy for what they are
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
No there arent any chips or reprogramming.

What year lude? mine was rock solid at 140+
Kris what year prelude did you have? I'm assuming you got rid of it when you got the TL?

Ludes are great cars IMO, just heavy for what they are
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