NYDesi80

To my knowledge the reason for the tranny fluid in turning brown is cuz of the 2nd gear clutch pack being worn down and literally being shredded and those shredded filing are in the fluid changing its color from clear pink to brown.

So even if you do change your tranny fluid and flush it out and what not..yada yada... if your 2nd gear clutch pack is being shredded, it will continue to happen and continue to change the tranny fluid to brown again. I mean if its a defective tranny, its a defective tranny and there is nothing me, you or maintainance can do about it. I mean sure, the tranny flush might just prolong the inevitable, but would you want the tranny going bad on you after the warranty coverage is over??

I dont know my build date on my car, but I bought my car in August of 2003, and I can tell you already I had a few slips in the tranny and Im only at 18k miles.

I think the people that dont experience tranny problems are those that do mostly highway driving and are predominantly switching in and out of 3rd, 4th and 5th gears. When people do a lot of city driving or local driving, your car switches a lot between 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. Cars that switch from 1st to 2nd and from 2nd to 3rd, I feel are going to damage their 2nd gear cluth pack sooner since this is where the weakness is. Of course this is somethign that is my opinion and I could be wrong, but I talked to many people and taken a mini survey and from that... this is what I've concluded. I could be wrong too.

Now Im posting a poll here to see what the real deal is.

NYDesi80

Oh and to add to that comment, my car's slips on my previous 99 Accord was when the car would go from 1st into 2nd and from 2nd into 3rd... 3rd into 4th was fine, and there was no 5th gear since it was a 4 speed.

Booker

Booker

I think the people that dont experience tranny problems are those that do mostly highway driving and are predominantly switching in and out of 3rd, 4th and 5th gears.

Although I do not know nearly enough to dispute your theory, I have over 55k miles on my 2003 TL-S (bought 7/1/02 new) and my tranny was replaced. 90%of my driving is done on the NJ Turnpike - 100 miles/day roundtrip to & from the office.

NYDesi80

Neither do I... that is why Im conducting the poll. But what Im saying is that just cuz you do mostly highway driving doesnt mean that your tranny wont go, it just wont go as fast as somoene doing mostly local driving thas all. So to take your case, we should consider when your tranny failed and was replaced, and compare it to people that drive locally. Hope that clarifies things a bit.

Booker

Booker

It does clarify. For your poll purposes, mine failed just before 50k miles. I didn't feel any obvious symptoms, but told the dealer I did to have it "on the record." I was shocked when I got the call telling me I needed a new one. By the way, I learned of this site after all of this happened, unfortunately.

P.S. I apologize for the blank replies. I have NO idea how to delete them.

1fasttl

I have 02 TL-S and mine went out at about 30,000. My friend just got his car a couple of months ago and the same thing, his car just hit 30,000 and tha trans took a dump.

vandy786

I'm at 34k in my 2002 TLS. I'm still abusing the original tranny on a regular basis and hoping it goes out before 100,000 miles.

fsttyms1

[QUOTE=Booker]I think the people that dont experience tranny problems are those that do mostly highway driving and are predominantly switching in and out of 3rd, 4th and 5th gears.
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NOT True. most of my driving is HWY and i have had 2 go.

LiQiCE

Who told you the 2nd gear clutch pack is the one that fails most often? In the MDX it maybe the 2nd gear clutch pack, but in the CL-S / TL-S its the 3rd gear clutch pack.

Read up here

Street Spirit

I have a used '99 TL (4-speed) and am at around 115,000km and running on original tranny...

`ill*tl

Sadly to say..2 weeks ago, when going from 3rd > 4th..it slipped. I know that it slipped and I wasn't just buggin' b/c it felt like I lost power..so I take a peek at my rpm gauge and see that it revved all the way to 2800-2900 (I usually shift at 2000rpm in D5) before it caught 4th gear then..then I felt a slight jerk then it felt like I had power again. But it has been driving fine ever since..so I figured I wouldn't post about it since I'm just in a shitty mood and need to vent about all the shit thats going on (for those that're clueless, read the post "Need Legal Advice!!!" posted by me in OT) ..why not bitch, eh? :o

2003 TL-S (Build Date: 7/03 - 8,800 miles)