New Shoes are on!
08-30-2012, 08:35 PM
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I'm glad you're happy. 
08-30-2012, 08:42 PM
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They kind of look like the TL-SH-AWD wheels.
08-30-2012, 09:03 PM
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08-30-2012, 11:48 PM
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He means Aspec suspension kit. Not body kit.
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08-31-2012, 02:11 PM
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I struggled with that as well. I'm a fan of simple and elegant, not busy. Anything that I looked at in this odd size felt busy to me. Even the Nuernburgring from TSW felt busy, although I liked them a lot. Problem with those was the color in that it was Gun Metal to begin with and not a perfect match for the Carbon Gray RL I have, so it looked like I tried to match and botched it. These I LOVED from the start. I think I'f I didn't have the brakes that I do have that these would actually look silly, but this way I feel like I have 2 focal points. Overall I am happy I went this way. I think they look pretty slick.
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HEAVY_RL (08-31-2012)
08-31-2012, 02:49 PM
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I think larger rotors would help, but more importantly a different caliper paint. That is the biggest problem I have.
Luckily it's not really a problem for me.
Luckily it's not really a problem for me.
08-31-2012, 02:54 PM
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They sure do stand out now don't they? Now that I have the black on gray going, I may consider gray or black for the calipers, but right now I kinda dig the contrast. I know this is a luxury cruiser, but that small amount of drama that the orange offers is just enough for me without looking like I'm an assphat from CT that has an entirely too wealthy family.
08-31-2012, 03:00 PM
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It also doesn't help that I absolutely hate orange, but that is just because of my religion.
Gig 'Em.
Gig 'Em.
08-31-2012, 07:35 PM
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So he isn't the guy with orange calipers? I know there is one member here with them. They look pretty orange to me. His taillights look red.
08-31-2012, 09:22 PM
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Your list of mods leads on that you know something about cars, but your post suggests otherwise.
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BDoggPrelude (09-01-2012)
08-31-2012, 10:00 PM
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These wheels would only look good if at all on a Black RL. Italianos wheels work perfect because his car is all black. Your cars polished window frame with polished lip is just to much "to me". Enjoy your car.
09-01-2012, 06:32 AM
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09-01-2012, 04:44 PM
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When you increase your wheel size, you decrease your tire sidewall by an equal amount. Unless you donk your car out or don't properly size your tires, your hub will sit the same height off the ground regardless of wheel size because your tire diameter won't change.
The idea that a car with bigger wheels needs to be lowered to look good is only an illusion. The diameter of the tire should not change.
The idea that a car with bigger wheels needs to be lowered to look good is only an illusion. The diameter of the tire should not change.
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09-01-2012, 05:07 PM
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When you increase your wheel size, you decrease your tire sidewall by an equal amount. Unless you donk your car out or don't properly size your tires, your hub will sit the same height off the ground regardless of wheel size because your tire diameter won't change.
The idea that a car with bigger wheels needs to be lowered to look good is only an illusion. The diameter of the tire should not change.
The idea that a car with bigger wheels needs to be lowered to look good is only an illusion. The diameter of the tire should not change.
Some great tools:
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html (my favorite)
http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp
https://acurazine.com/forums/tire_rim_calculator.php (AZ's own)
09-01-2012, 06:54 PM
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When you increase your wheel size, you decrease your tire sidewall by an equal amount. Unless you donk your car out or don't properly size your tires, your hub will sit the same height off the ground regardless of wheel size because your tire diameter won't change.
The idea that a car with bigger wheels needs to be lowered to look good is only an illusion. The diameter of the tire should not change.
The idea that a car with bigger wheels needs to be lowered to look good is only an illusion. The diameter of the tire should not change.
09-01-2012, 10:24 PM
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I agree tire size may play a role in trying to keep same diameter,,,look at any car that has gone up 2 to 3 sizes and u will clearly see that the car sits higher than stock set up...Hence 4x4 status...Its not an illusion..Even when a car is lowered and u go up a couple sizes from stock,Your car will sit higher..Thats a fact
4x4 status...well in that arena we change the tires to be bigger and typically leave the wheel size alone or just step up to fit the tire we want. Ground clearance is a direct correlation to hub height. You can lift your Jeep (for example) 7" and leave the stock wheels and tires on and your net increase in ground clearance will be 0 because the lowest point is your differential, which of course is on your axle, which is attached to your wheels & tires . You ADD diameter via a higher profile and then your hub height increases creating more ground clearance.
007 is right on, and for reference, here is one of my other toys:
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09-01-2012, 10:53 PM
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I agree tire size may play a role in trying to keep same diameter,,,look at any car that has gone up 2 to 3 sizes and u will clearly see that the car sits higher than stock set up...Hence 4x4 status...Its not an illusion..Even when a car is lowered and u go up a couple sizes from stock,Your car will sit higher..Thats a fact
It's amazing the amount of crap that goes around in this forum. Seriously. Let's look at numbers for a minute since you like to talk about "facts".
The stock tire size on the RL is P245/50R17. This tire has a 26.6" diameter.
The OP's aftermarket tires are a P245/40R19. This tire has a 26.7" diameter.
The two tires are nearly identical in overall exterior dimensions. It doesn't matter what size wheels they are. How would this have made the car sit higher? It has increased the ride height by exactly 0.05", (0.10" difference in diameter divided by 2 gives a 0.05" difference in radius). Sure, the 17" tires with taller sidewalls are going to squat a little bit more so this changes the height a little bit...but we're not talking about a visibly noticeable difference here. You just can't argue the straight mathematical facts involved with tire sizing.
If you want to speak facts then by all means please do so. If you want to just start blurting out a bunch of middle school sounding, ignorant rumors please go back to the TL forum.
When you increase your wheel size, you decrease your tire sidewall by an equal amount. Unless you donk your car out or don't properly size your tires, your hub will sit the same height off the ground regardless of wheel size because your tire diameter won't change.
The idea that a car with bigger wheels needs to be lowered to look good is only an illusion. The diameter of the tire should not change.
The idea that a car with bigger wheels needs to be lowered to look good is only an illusion. The diameter of the tire should not change.
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09-01-2012, 11:00 PM
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09-01-2012, 11:30 PM
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My point is he needs to lower his car period...that wheel gap kills his car looking proper..... a one inch drop won't be noticiable enough,to pull off those wheels..u contradicted your self in saying that the height on the tire set up is higher but not enough to notice..anytime someone goes with different wheels,tire specs pretty much always change..due to offset,width or whatever..u geeks wanna pull out your calculators and do math... wheen u upgrade to bigger size wheels normally equates bigger tires..car sits higher.. u can debate it all u want...doesn't matter if it a TL,RL,or go to hell...
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09-01-2012, 11:48 PM
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Drifting
You are seriously showing your lack of intelligence and maturity. There's nothing to argue about. Facts are facts. It has not raised the car. The size of wheel has nothing to do with with the overall tire size.
And how did I contradict myself again? Do you even know the meaning of the word contradict? I'm assuming that since you obviously don't know the meaning of a simple four letter word such as "fact", a more complex ten letter word like "contradict" is way over your head.
I said that the ride height has changed by 0.05". This is a number that is so small it is hardly visibly measurable by the human eye. That's 1/20th of an inch. You could burn 1/20th of an inch of tread off your tires in a few thousand miles of normal driving and it would make up the difference.
In case you wanted to brush up a little bit, here's a link to the definition of the word "fact":
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fact
And your original point was that he should lower his car. Then you blurted out an ignorant statement. Two members here that are obviously more knowledgeable than yourself corrected you and you still continued arguing. They spoke facts. You spoke ignorance. End of story.
And how did I contradict myself again? Do you even know the meaning of the word contradict? I'm assuming that since you obviously don't know the meaning of a simple four letter word such as "fact", a more complex ten letter word like "contradict" is way over your head.
I said that the ride height has changed by 0.05". This is a number that is so small it is hardly visibly measurable by the human eye. That's 1/20th of an inch. You could burn 1/20th of an inch of tread off your tires in a few thousand miles of normal driving and it would make up the difference.
In case you wanted to brush up a little bit, here's a link to the definition of the word "fact":
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fact
And your original point was that he should lower his car. Then you blurted out an ignorant statement. Two members here that are obviously more knowledgeable than yourself corrected you and you still continued arguing. They spoke facts. You spoke ignorance. End of story.
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09-02-2012, 08:43 AM
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Wow, this is getting kinda rough. Italiano your TL is beautiful, no argument there. The ride height thing I believe we've shown that math wins everytime. I can't disagree that my wheel gap is more pronounced even though it is identical to stock. Living in New Hampshire compared to NC presents challenges that you luckily don't need to deal with. We have frost heaves that are higher than your ground clearance, therefore a drastic drop is out of the question for me. I tried it once in my MX6 and the ride was horrific in the winter. So much so that I stopped driving it as it was just freaking dangerous.
This RL is my primary driver. My Jeep is a trail rig now, and the VTX only has 2 wheels =). If I do lower the A-SPEC kit will be as far as I go, but that isn't for at least another year as the wifey would kick my ass if I did another big project this year.
I just compared your TL against my old MX6's ride heights, ground clearance wise, and they look pretty close. Mine is still higher than yours, so there is no way I could pull that off.
For now I think it looks good. I'll try to get some better pics with my SLR soon, put them in a new post, and start with an excerpt from the "I Have a Dream" speech.
This RL is my primary driver. My Jeep is a trail rig now, and the VTX only has 2 wheels =). If I do lower the A-SPEC kit will be as far as I go, but that isn't for at least another year as the wifey would kick my ass if I did another big project this year.
I just compared your TL against my old MX6's ride heights, ground clearance wise, and they look pretty close. Mine is still higher than yours, so there is no way I could pull that off.
For now I think it looks good. I'll try to get some better pics with my SLR soon, put them in a new post, and start with an excerpt from the "I Have a Dream" speech.
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09-02-2012, 09:54 AM
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Please do Tizodm!
09-02-2012, 03:16 PM
#32
Drifting
Sorry for derailing your thread OP.
Werd. Some better pictures would be great.
OP, I don't know how much you know about Advanti but they're a division of Konig. I was actually looking at putting the 15th Anniversary wheels, (similar style to yours), on my wife's TL. They sent us a brochure that had a prerelease picture of them in a darker hyper-silver finish. Unfortunately they scrapped that finish somewhere along the line and ended up only offering it in black and gunmetal.
Werd. Some better pictures would be great.
OP, I don't know how much you know about Advanti but they're a division of Konig. I was actually looking at putting the 15th Anniversary wheels, (similar style to yours), on my wife's TL. They sent us a brochure that had a prerelease picture of them in a darker hyper-silver finish. Unfortunately they scrapped that finish somewhere along the line and ended up only offering it in black and gunmetal.
09-03-2012, 08:44 AM
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Sorry for derailing your thread OP.
Werd. Some better pictures would be great.
OP, I don't know how much you know about Advanti but they're a division of Konig. I was actually looking at putting the 15th Anniversary wheels, (similar style to yours), on my wife's TL. They sent us a brochure that had a prerelease picture of them in a darker hyper-silver finish. Unfortunately they scrapped that finish somewhere along the line and ended up only offering it in black and gunmetal.
Werd. Some better pictures would be great.
OP, I don't know how much you know about Advanti but they're a division of Konig. I was actually looking at putting the 15th Anniversary wheels, (similar style to yours), on my wife's TL. They sent us a brochure that had a prerelease picture of them in a darker hyper-silver finish. Unfortunately they scrapped that finish somewhere along the line and ended up only offering it in black and gunmetal.
09-03-2012, 10:41 AM
#34
Drifting
The 15th Anniversary wheels have a twist to the spokes. This is the prerelease picture of them in the hyper-silver that never made it to production.
09-03-2012, 10:50 PM
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Seeing that ad made me remember now...no 19's, that is why I skipped them. Awesome looking in that Hyper-Chrome, hadn't seen that before. That was a missed opportunity on their part I would say, and the lack of 19's.
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