"Wind" noise - possible solution
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"Wind" noise - possible solution
From the start, I noticed a low pitch, wind-like noise that did not seem to be related to the tires or drivertrain (see corresponding post). I took the RL in for a number of issues (wheel alignment, apply 3 "campaigns") and spoke to the knowledgeable technician about the noise. I showed him a copy of the TQI Service Bulletin that describes a potential wind noise issue if the shipping tie-down holes are not properly filled with supplied grommets. Frankly, he was surprised that I had the document.
Later that afternoon, he called back and reported that 3 of the grommets were in fact missing. When I picked up the car, I noticed a difference - the noise I had been hearing was gone. WOOHOO!
Hope this information proves helpful.
Later that afternoon, he called back and reported that 3 of the grommets were in fact missing. When I picked up the car, I noticed a difference - the noise I had been hearing was gone. WOOHOO!
Hope this information proves helpful.
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I think unrelated to this wind noise problem.. but I have a pretty loud (maybe my ears are sensitive) wind noise near my head .. i think coming from the driver door area again right behind my head. Most noticiable when I'm around 60mph.
Has anyone else noticed this?
Thanks
Has anyone else noticed this?
Thanks
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I've noticed it too
I too have noticed wind noise right by my head- apparently coming from the upper part of the door or window on the dirver's side- most noticable when the car exceeds 75 mph (which may make it difficult for the dealer to diagnose)...
it'd be great if someone found a solution to this! John
it'd be great if someone found a solution to this! John
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Mine also comes from the driver side window, I did not detect any air coming in, tried real hard to pinpoint the location but could not, and thought that possible the driverside door handle might be the culprit
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Originally Posted by jsclarke
I too have noticed wind noise right by my head- apparently coming from the upper part of the door or window on the dirver's side- most noticable when the car exceeds 75 mph (which may make it difficult for the dealer to diagnose)...
it'd be great if someone found a solution to this! John
it'd be great if someone found a solution to this! John
I've been thinking about enlisting the aid of someone with better hearing than I have to ride in the back seat to see if they can locate the source and further to determine whether it is present on the passenger side as well. Griot's sells an "improved automotive stethoscope"...been thinking about adding that to my next order for my permanent RL tool kit.
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Originally Posted by jkanon
thought that possible the driverside door handle might be the culprit
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Originally Posted by JMikeF
From the start, I noticed a low pitch, wind-like noise that did not seem to be related to the tires or drivertrain (see corresponding post). I took the RL in for a number of issues (wheel alignment, apply 3 "campaigns") and spoke to the knowledgeable technician about the noise. I showed him a copy of the TQI Service Bulletin that describes a potential wind noise issue if the shipping tie-down holes are not properly filled with supplied grommets. Frankly, he was surprised that I had the document.
Later that afternoon, he called back and reported that 3 of the grommets were in fact missing. When I picked up the car, I noticed a difference - the noise I had been hearing was gone. WOOHOO!
Hope this information proves helpful.
Later that afternoon, he called back and reported that 3 of the grommets were in fact missing. When I picked up the car, I noticed a difference - the noise I had been hearing was gone. WOOHOO!
Hope this information proves helpful.
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Originally Posted by bluemule
Where are those grommets located? Are they something I can check for myself?
I've wondered what these were for...can anyone elaborate where these go?
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please tell... and the tsb # if any
A number of links to documents are listed including the following which shows the location of the grommets.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...SB04-028_3.jpg
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Originally Posted by dadcat1
It is in a link from the the "Known Problems and Quirks" sticky thread.
A number of links to documents are listed including the following which shows the location of the grommets.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...SB04-028_3.jpg
A number of links to documents are listed including the following which shows the location of the grommets.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...SB04-028_3.jpg
Later today or tomorrow, I'll inspect those locations. All I know at the moment is that I've got 4 new grommets sitting on my desk...but that doesn't mean that grommets are not installed on the RL.
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update on tie down grommets
Originally Posted by bluemule
Thanks very much for posting that link. I thought I'd downloaded all the pdf's relating to my RL, but for some reason, that one is missing.
Later today or tomorrow, I'll inspect those locations. All I know at the moment is that I've got 4 new grommets sitting on my desk...but that doesn't mean that grommets are not installed on the RL.
Later today or tomorrow, I'll inspect those locations. All I know at the moment is that I've got 4 new grommets sitting on my desk...but that doesn't mean that grommets are not installed on the RL.
Unless I discover differently later when some of my head stuffiness clears up, I believe that the wind rustling noise I've been hearing since June, 2005, coming from the left side of the car has been virtually eliminated...I may have heard a slight rustling type wind noise like I'm accustomed to hearing at around 85mph but it was barely noticeable and not sustained.
What I do notice now is a slight wind noise coming from the rear window behind my head, which I'm consider to be normal.
Immediately adjoining the grommet positions at each of the rear wheel locations, are two (2) small round holes...mine have nothing in them. Now I'm wondering whether these should also be plugged.
I installed the grommets dry and checked them again tonight and adjusted them slightly so that they all look to be firmly in and the sealing lip is located ok. A better approach might be to clean the openings with a cloth and put lubricant on the plugs so that they install easier...I had to force them in this morning...I was in a hurry to get to work and didn't want to mess with any wd40 or the like.
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Originally Posted by dadcat1
It is in a link from the the "Known Problems and Quirks" sticky thread.
A number of links to documents are listed including the following which shows the location of the grommets.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...SB04-028_3.jpg
A number of links to documents are listed including the following which shows the location of the grommets.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...SB04-028_3.jpg
I'm not doing something right. I can't find a link to download Service Bulletin 04-028 TQI. What I get from the link is only the first page. I use Firefox and IE interchangeably, and may have tightened up security on these to the point that everything isn't loading properly. I got the .pdf's from the TL forums, but can't figure out how to download any of the Service Bulletins from the RL site.
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I'm not doing something right. I can't find a link to download Service Bulletin 04-028 TQI. What I get from the link is only the first page. I use Firefox and IE interchangeably, and may have tightened up security on these to the point that everything isn't loading properly. I got the .pdf's from the TL forums, but can't figure out how to download any of the Service Bulletins from the RL site.
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Originally Posted by dadcat1
Do a Google search for "TSB 04-028: TQI and New Model Information" and you should find a link to the full TSB in PDF form.
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Hmm, weird. I do not have this but sucks to hear some of you do.
JMikeF,
totally unreleated but are you the the J.Mike dude who posts at AVS Forum?
JMikeF,
totally unreleated but are you the the J.Mike dude who posts at AVS Forum?
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I installed these on our RL we got last week (none of the 4 were installed)... and it appears (knock on wood) that the noise is completely gone. Additional high speed driving will confirm this- but I recommend everyone check that these are there and install if not. The dealer just handed 4 tie down gromets to me- and using the s.o.'s lighted vanity mirror on the floor under the car- it took 5 minutes to install these. Now, a normally very quiet car, is even quieter. John
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Can anybody post a picture of their installed grommet? What does the grommet look like? I just looked underneath the car, and if what I think it is, the grommet is a black rubbery kind. Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by rollinm
I think unrelated to this wind noise problem.. but I have a pretty loud (maybe my ears are sensitive) wind noise near my head .. i think coming from the driver door area again right behind my head. Most noticiable when I'm around 60mph.
Has anyone else noticed this?
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Has anyone else noticed this?
Thanks
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Originally Posted by Rob L
Hmm, weird. I do not have this but sucks to hear some of you do.
JMikeF,
totally unreleated but are you the the J.Mike dude who posts at AVS Forum?
JMikeF,
totally unreleated but are you the the J.Mike dude who posts at AVS Forum?
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Hey guys...I too have a wind noise near the driver's door. I just thought it was me...after all it seems I'm the only one the dealer knows that has rattles or noise complaints. Now after reading this forum...I don't think I'm CRAZY but part of the RL majority.
Here's hoping my service advisor realizes it may be me writing in and his cover has been blown.
Here's hoping my service advisor realizes it may be me writing in and his cover has been blown.
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I checked my car yesterday and found one grommet missing. It's hard to explain why the dealer installed only three. But I also found there are two round holes (about the same size as the grommets') adjoining the grommet positions at each of the front wheel locations. That setup is different from the image shown in the service bulletin. But I believe those holes should also be filled.
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Originally Posted by autofill
I checked my car yesterday and found one grommet missing. It's hard to explain why the dealer installed only three. But I also found there are two round holes (about the same size as the grommets') adjoining the grommet positions at each of the front wheel locations. That setup is different from the image shown in the service bulletin. But I believe those holes should also be filled.
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Originally Posted by bluemule
Yeah, I've also got those empty round holes and mentioned them previously. BTW, a sort of update, after installing all four of my grommets, which did eliminate most of the noise, I'm still hearing that particular wind noise at higher speeds...90 to 95.
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Originally Posted by JMikeF
Ummm - where is the speed limit 95??? ![Wish](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wish.gif)
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Over the past few years, traffic speeds have been increasing around that particular city, and the fact that traffic volume can be dangerously high doesn't seem to bother those folks.
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I have my RL in service for a few items to be looked at. I still dont have it back (going on day 8 now). But on the wind noise by driver door. They claim the rubber door seal was not in the proper position and it was replaced with a new one. I havent confirmed this actually fixes it. I'll write back when I get to test it out again.
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Originally Posted by rollinm
I have my RL in service for a few items to be looked at. I still dont have it back (going on day 8 now).
Eight days now! What, are they replacing your engine? I'd have a serious talk with the service manager if I were you!
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Originally Posted by rollinm
I have my RL in service for a few items to be looked at. I still dont have it back (going on day 8 now). But on the wind noise by driver door. They claim the rubber door seal was not in the proper position and it was replaced with a new one. I havent confirmed this actually fixes it. I'll write back when I get to test it out again.
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Originally Posted by dwboston
Figured i would bump this instead of starting a new thread. Did replacing the door seal fix your wind noise problem? I have the same issue (wind noise seemingly coming from the driver side front door handle/window). Jusy for the heck of it I checked to make sure the tie-down grommets are installed and they are. Just wondering if anyone found a solution for this.
On top of that, the rear tiedown holes on my TL aren't plugged, either.
I'll be calling on my dealer tomorrow!
Thanks, guys.
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Well, I also went out and checked my 06 RL last night in the garage. No grommet in any of the 4 squarish tie down holes. I notice that others are reporting the same thing. Did Acura stop doing this for 06 or are all of these dealers just lazy/sloppy as can be?
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Originally Posted by UW RL
what's the purpose of those tie down holes which need gromments?
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