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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 08:01 PM
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Question Where to change the date in the RL computer?

When I try to select one of my previous destinations for navigation it shows standalone points like "CHEVRON" as well as packages like "2005 February 21 destinations -1".

First of all I don't understand wery well what does it mean - some date destinations minus one or minus two. When I select one of them it asks "Are you sure to replace?". Well I'm not, because I don't know what and where is going to be replaced.

Second and more important - it is only February 20 when I write this! Looks like the car computer thinks it is Feb 21 today. I easily found how to change the time in the Setup menu, but where can I fix date?? I'm puzzled.

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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 08:07 AM
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Konstantin -

I haven't played with the previous destinations feature too much, so I can't answer the questions about the negative numbers. However, I assume you started this thread around 9 PM last night, correct? If so, I suspect that the date being shown as 2/21 is due to the car using GMT instead of your local timezone. The time the car receives from the GPS system is in GMT, but it should automatically offset for your local timezone, which might not be happening. This is just a guess though. When I get my car back from the dealer I'll look around for another explanation if someone else hasn't replied by then...
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by larryka
When I get my car back from the dealer I'll look around for another explanation if someone else hasn't replied by then...
Thank you, I appreciate that.

I tried to call Acura customer service about it today, but they are closed for Presidents Day Will try again tomorrow.

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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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Actually time adjustment is also not so clear

I tried to adjust time and to my surprise I can set Hour to numbers from 0 to 11!
I would understand 0 to 23 OR 1 to 12, but 0 to 11!? and no way to set am/pm somewhere. So at 12:15pm it actually shows 0:15. Very weird.

And what is "Reset"? I tried it and got 3:24 while on my hand watch it was 2:24. So I manually adjusted the time to 2:24, but still confused about the whole paradigm of the date and time in this system.

Can anybody shed some light on it?

Thanks!
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by konst_ms
When I try to select one of my previous destinations for navigation it shows standalone points like "CHEVRON" as well as packages like "2005 February 21 destinations -1".

First of all I don't understand wery well what does it mean - some date destinations minus one or minus two. When I select one of them it asks "Are you sure to replace?". Well I'm not, because I don't know what and where is going to be replaced.

Second and more important - it is only February 20 when I write this! Looks like the car computer thinks it is Feb 21 today. I easily found how to change the time in the Setup menu, but where can I fix date?? I'm puzzled.

Any ideas?

Konstantin
IMO... could I say somehting?

For example, if you see "2005 February 21 destinations -1", it usually means that you have had your Navi to route the direction to that destination (Today's Destinations) on Feb. 21.

You could try this.

1. Try to add somewhere into your "Today's Destinations"
2. Enter there and have your Navi directed you to that target
3. Cancel current route (Acutally as long as you put targets into Today's Destination, the previous destinations would show records... )
4. Go to "Previous destinations", you should see "2005 February 22 destinations -1" on the top.

If you did this again to another destinations, you will see "-2".
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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Do you think that "2005 February 21 destinations -1" is like my last destination on that date and "2005 February 21 destinations -2" is my prelast destination and so forth? Hm-m... But it looks like when I select one of these and confirm the prompt "Are you sure you want to replace" it replaces all my current today's destinations with the whole package for the selected day. I.e. all my current Today's Destinations get removed and one or two or three prev dest. appear there. I even thought that the number (-1, -2, etc.) is the number of destinations in the package, but it doesn't seem to be right.

I'm still puzzled

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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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You're right... I feel confuesd now... Did Acura Navi System owner manual say anything about this? Someone should play their Navis and this should be very easy to figure out.
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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No word about "2005 February 21 destinations -1" in the manual. At least in Navigation System manual I checked. Will try to call Acura on Wednesday.
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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I called Acura Client services at 1-800-382-2238
They DON'T KNOW! Darn!! Who knows then?
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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Exclamation Wish this could help...

Well, it's all about Today's Destinations...


1. Today's Destinations is the key. If you put anything there now, your Navi's Previous Destinations will start to count and display "Year Month Date destinations -X".


2. As for "Are you sure you want to replace ?" issue, if you still have targets inside Today's Destinations, and you try to click any of Year Month Date destinations -X from Previous Destinations, this message will be displayed.


3. As for Time issue, your Navi displayed 2005 February 21 destinations -1 on Feb. 20, you have to check your TIME/CLOCK setting. Go to Navi setup and check if your time zone and clock are correct. For example, if you entered at 4:21 PM (Navi/clock displays 4:21 only) and your destination shows the next day, it could be because your Navi/clock actually is 12 hours faster, I mean 4:21 AM (next day).






So, let's do some tests now.


If you put 3 targets into Today's Destinations, your Previous Destinations should show Year Month Date destinations -X (X=1, 2, 3).


Once you have done all your trips, you should clear all targets inside Today's Destinations. IMHO.


If you do not clean out any targets inside Today's Destinations and you try to click any of Year Month Date destinations -X from Previous Destinations, your Navi will ask you "Are you sure you want to replace?".
  1. Under this circumstances, if you click "-1" and answer Yes, all your targets in Today's Destinations would be erased and -1's target will be the only one shown in Today's Destiantions.

  2. If you don't click "-1" but click "-2", your Today's Destinations would only erase 3rd targets and leave 1st and 2nd targets there.

  3. If you click "-3", your Today's Destinations would erase nothing and display all of 3 targets.
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rets
1. Today's Destinations is the key. If you put anything there now, your Navi's Previous Destinations will start to count and display "Year Month Date destinations -X".
I went to the garage and tried it - this just doesn't happen
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by konst_ms
I went to the garage and tried it - this just doesn't happen
Ok, so you're sure there is NOTHING inside your Today's Destination now...



How's about the Time/Clock setup? Did you check it yet?
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rets
Ok, so you're sure there is NOTHING inside your Today's Destination now...
I start with empty Today's Destinations. Then add something there from my address book. Then go to Previous Destinations and nothing changes there.

Oh, I got two observations:
1. Manual says - address book entries should not be shown in Previous Destinations, because Address Book can be protected by the PIN.
2. address book entries appear in Today's Destinations as addresses, not as corresponding address book names.


Originally Posted by rets
How's about the Time/Clock setup? Did you check it yet?
I can't check this before I manage to get something to Prev Destinations, because that's the only place where one can see the date. Clock setup allows you to change hour in 0..11 interval and it doesn't have any a.m./p.m. notion.
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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Thanks for trying...

Originally Posted by konst_ms
I start with empty Today's Destinations. Then add something there from my address book. Then go to Previous Destinations and nothing changes there.

Oh, I got two observations:
1. Manual says - address book entries should not be shown in Previous Destinations, because Address Book can be protected by the PIN.
2. address book entries appear in Today's Destinations as addresses, not as corresponding address book names.
So, how's about emptying Today's Destinations again then adding something else except addresses from your Address book?




Originally Posted by konst_ms
I can't check this before I manage to get something to Prev Destinations, because that's the only place where one can see the date. Clock setup allows you to change hour in 0..11 interval and it doesn't have any a.m./p.m. notion.
No AM/PM or 24HRs setup... No one knows how to change Clock???

Or could you have your Navi automatically sync clock/time from the satellite?
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rets
So, how's about emptying Today's Destinations again then adding something else except addresses from your Address book?
Just tried exactly that. No adding items to Today's Destinations doesn't change anything for Previous Destinations. May be it matters if I actually reached these destinations or not...

Originally Posted by rets
No AM/PM or 24HRs setup... No one knows how to change Clock???

Or could you have your Navi automatically sync clock/time from the satellite?
Yes, looks like for indication purposes this car doesn't distinguish am and pm. For calculation purposes it definitely uses exact time it gets from GPS and one can even see this time (it is in Universal Coordinated Time) in the Servicing menu.

So the story remains dark... but I can live with it
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by konst_ms
Yes, looks like for indication purposes this car doesn't distinguish am and pm. For calculation purposes it definitely uses exact time it gets from GPS and one can even see this time (it is in Universal Coordinated Time) in the Servicing menu.
I didn't have time to play with the previous destination stuff since getting my car back last night. However, I did check the time settings under the setup menu. I noticed the 0 to 11 thing, but I also noticed the automatic time zone and daylight saving time options. What are yours set to?
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by larryka
What are yours set to?
Mine were both ON and when I moved the dial to the right to Reset (whatever it means) the time get off by one hour. Or by 11 hours, I don't know as there is no am/pm.

Then I turned Auto Daylight Saving time to OFF and the time after Reset got exactly as my local time (I'm in Seattle - Western Standard Time).

I left it like that, but still have a feeling of unexplained under the hood
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 10:46 PM
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Hey guys, this is funny...we have 17 posts (18 with mine) and not one of us knows how to set the damn clock...now that's good

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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:02 PM
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konst_ms,

Could you try this again when you have chance? Thanx.
  1. Erase all targets inside Today's Destinations

  2. Enter 3 addresses, which are not inside your address book

  3. Let Navi route to 1st target

  4. Cancel 1st target

  5. Check Previous Destinations and see if there is any new "Year Month Date Destination-1"

  6. Go back to Today's Destinations and choose 2nd target, and get the direction

  7. Cancel the route

  8. Check Previous Destination and see if you got "-2"
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 12:41 AM
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Ok, my curiosity is stronger than tiredness after work

I did what you (rets) recommended and get exactly the results you expected.

I'm too tired now to drive anywhere, so I did exactly that - let it calculate the route and then immediately cancel it. Then the same for the second Today's Destination etc.

Two observations:

1. "Year Month Date Destination-1" really appears in Previous Destinations. Then -2, -3 etc. BUT they are all the same - i.e. when I try to select any one of them and confirm overwrite all four destinations I initially entered return to Today's Destinations. So it doesn't matter which one of the Prev. Dest I select (-1 or -2 or -3 or -4) - in all cases I get all four of them in Today's Dest. Probably this is related to the fact that I didn't actually drove to them.

2. I write it at 10:30 Western time 24 Feb. "Year Month Date Destination-1" for me looks like " Feb 25" i.e. in the future. I went to Clock Adjustment. It shows 10:30. I changed hour to 9, 8, 7... 1, 0, 11, 10 (expecting that somewhere internally there is am/pm but it is not indicated), but no luck - new Previous Destinations appear dated as Feb 25.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by konst_ms
Ok, my curiosity is stronger than tiredness after work

I did what you (rets) recommended and get exactly the results you expected.

I'm too tired now to drive anywhere, so I did exactly that - let it calculate the route and then immediately cancel it. Then the same for the second Today's Destination etc.

Two observations:

1. "Year Month Date Destination-1" really appears in Previous Destinations. Then -2, -3 etc. BUT they are all the same - i.e. when I try to select any one of them and confirm overwrite all four destinations I initially entered return to Today's Destinations. So it doesn't matter which one of the Prev. Dest I select (-1 or -2 or -3 or -4) - in all cases I get all four of them in Today's Dest. Probably this is related to the fact that I didn't actually drove to them.

2. I write it at 10:30 Western time 24 Feb. "Year Month Date Destination-1" for me looks like " Feb 25" i.e. in the future. I went to Clock Adjustment. It shows 10:30. I changed hour to 9, 8, 7... 1, 0, 11, 10 (expecting that somewhere internally there is am/pm but it is not indicated), but no luck - new Previous Destinations appear dated as Feb 25.
Well, we start to make this picture clearer and clearer...

For #2, another test for you. If it really runs 12 hours faster and your 10:30 Western Time 2/24/05 would show "2005 Feb 25 Destination-1", could you try to play this in the morning and see if it would show the same day's info? For example, if you play it before 12 noon, I wonder if it would show today. If so, we'd know it's 12 hours faster. If not...
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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I'm getting a feeling that Acura should hire me as a free lance test driver

Trying to make the experiment clean I was looking for the way to clean up my Previous Destinations list, but could not find it. <Cheating spouses - Beware!>

So at the beginning I already had in my Previous Destinations list "2005 Feb 25 Destination-1", "2005 Feb 25 Destination-2" and "2005 Feb 25 Destination-3".

After I proceed with the test sequence I got "2005 Feb 25 Destination-4", "2005 Feb 25 Destination-5" and "2005 Feb 25 Destination-6".

So this proves that the clock is 12 hours forward. At least the clock used for Previous Destinations. I'm not sure if it is the same clock.

What is bad - we are back to the initial question which started this thread: "How do I change the date?"

Failed to find an "official" solution I looked for a hacky one. I opened Servicing menu (Map-Cancel-Menu buttons all together for three seconds) and there under Functional Setup I found GPS Send Time. For me it shows: "GPS Time 2005.02.25" 18:13:43" (my local Western time at that moment was 10:13am). It looks like one can change the date/time value in this menu, but I'm kinda reluctant to touch it.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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Yeah, that time appears to be foreward based on your recommendations. I'll check mine tonight and if mine is wrong I will set it to the correct time. I was waiting on your response to see what happens before I corrected mine if necessary. My post will probably be in the morning though.
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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Thanks...

Originally Posted by konst_ms
...So this proves that the clock is 12 hours forward. At least the clock used for Previous Destinations. I'm not sure if it is the same clock...
At least, we made sure this... sorry for not being able to fix others.
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