What's your favorite thing about your RL?
#42
Hey what can we say, it's shotty marketing & neglect from Acura. I've never seen an Acura commercial or even ad solely for the RL since I've had my '08.. It's also a fact that ppl would rather spend the same amount for a Base 528i or Mercedes E350 with vinyl seats & no nav just for the status symbol. Everyone wants that Bimmer key fob or the Mercedes insignia on the hood.. Plus AWD is extra..
Eventhough the RL is a bit dated by today's standards (but blew competition out of the water back when it debuted), it is still ALOT of car for the money, especially since Acura's lack of RL marketing has led to 5k-10k discounts off MSRP for new RL's by many savvy Aziners on here.. Honda is renown for value & reliability and the RL is no exception!
Can't dispute the facts.. I do however like the exclusivity though (for only 41K too!!).. I see 528's, E350's, and GS's on the road countless times but I remember everytime I see an RL..
Eventhough the RL is a bit dated by today's standards (but blew competition out of the water back when it debuted), it is still ALOT of car for the money, especially since Acura's lack of RL marketing has led to 5k-10k discounts off MSRP for new RL's by many savvy Aziners on here.. Honda is renown for value & reliability and the RL is no exception!
Can't dispute the facts.. I do however like the exclusivity though (for only 41K too!!).. I see 528's, E350's, and GS's on the road countless times but I remember everytime I see an RL..
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#43
Hey what can we say, it's shotty marketing & neglect from Acura. I've never seen an Acura commercial or even ad solely for the RL since I've had my '08.. It's also a fact that ppl would rather spend the same amount for a Base 528i or Mercedes E350 with vinyl seats & no nav just for the status symbol. Everyone wants that Bimmer key fob or the Mercedes insignia on the hood.. Plus AWD is extra..
Eventhough the RL is a bit dated by today's standards (but blew competition out of the water back when it debuted), it is still ALOT of car for the money, especially since Acura's lack of RL marketing has led to 5k-10k discounts off MSRP for new RL's by many savvy Aziners on here.. Honda is renown for value & reliability and the RL is no exception!
Can't dispute the facts.. I do however like the exclusivity though (for only 41K too!!).. I see 528's, E350's, and GS's on the road countless times but I remember everytime I see an RL..![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
Eventhough the RL is a bit dated by today's standards (but blew competition out of the water back when it debuted), it is still ALOT of car for the money, especially since Acura's lack of RL marketing has led to 5k-10k discounts off MSRP for new RL's by many savvy Aziners on here.. Honda is renown for value & reliability and the RL is no exception!
Can't dispute the facts.. I do however like the exclusivity though (for only 41K too!!).. I see 528's, E350's, and GS's on the road countless times but I remember everytime I see an RL..
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#44
Instructor
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#45
Senior Moderator
Wow, interesting debate in here while I was working today. I can tell you ceb is not a troll. He hasn't owned an RL and so has not had the opportunity to drink the Kool-Aid. It's our job to feed it to him.
With that said, back on topic....
The best feature of my RL was SH-AWD. Even though I now own two RWD cars, there is absolutely no experience in my driving life like what SH-AWD offered. Even better, I had sticky tires so I could appreciate it even more. I wish I had the torque I have now with a CTS-V with SH-AWD. I often wonder how many bars I'd get on the MID with 400 lb-ft on tap, mashing the accelerator, in a turn.
Don't get me wrong, I love feeling the butt end of my car swinging just a lil' wide in a turn as only a RWD car can do, but the feeling of complete stability in a high-speed turn with SH-AWD means that anyone can be Mario Andretti.
With that said, back on topic....
The best feature of my RL was SH-AWD. Even though I now own two RWD cars, there is absolutely no experience in my driving life like what SH-AWD offered. Even better, I had sticky tires so I could appreciate it even more. I wish I had the torque I have now with a CTS-V with SH-AWD. I often wonder how many bars I'd get on the MID with 400 lb-ft on tap, mashing the accelerator, in a turn.
Don't get me wrong, I love feeling the butt end of my car swinging just a lil' wide in a turn as only a RWD car can do, but the feeling of complete stability in a high-speed turn with SH-AWD means that anyone can be Mario Andretti.
#47
Wow, interesting debate in here while I was working today. I can tell you ceb is not a troll. He hasn't owned an RL and so has not had the opportunity to drink the Kool-Aid. It's our job to feed it to him.
With that said, back on topic....
The best feature of my RL was SH-AWD. Even though I now own two RWD cars, there is absolutely no experience in my driving life like what SH-AWD offered. Even better, I had sticky tires so I could appreciate it even more. I wish I had the torque I have now with a CTS-V with SH-AWD. I often wonder how many bars I'd get on the MID with 400 lb-ft on tap, mashing the accelerator, in a turn.
Don't get me wrong, I love feeling the butt end of my car swinging just a lil' wide in a turn as only a RWD car can do, but the feeling of complete stability in a high-speed turn with SH-AWD means that anyone can be Mario Andretti.
With that said, back on topic....
The best feature of my RL was SH-AWD. Even though I now own two RWD cars, there is absolutely no experience in my driving life like what SH-AWD offered. Even better, I had sticky tires so I could appreciate it even more. I wish I had the torque I have now with a CTS-V with SH-AWD. I often wonder how many bars I'd get on the MID with 400 lb-ft on tap, mashing the accelerator, in a turn.
Don't get me wrong, I love feeling the butt end of my car swinging just a lil' wide in a turn as only a RWD car can do, but the feeling of complete stability in a high-speed turn with SH-AWD means that anyone can be Mario Andretti.
I've driven AWD exclusively for about 20 years now with a short foray into a FWD (GTI) and absolutely agree that AWD plus good tires is just so much better than either RWD or FWD.
However, I'm not convinced that the SH-AWD is superior to quattro, x-drive, 4MATIC or the slew of Haldex variants out there. Torque Vectoring doesn't come into play in day to day driving and is only valuable when driven to the limits. I've not seen a lot of RLs on the track nor would I suspect that any RL driver has ever reached the handling limits of their car. Accordingly, I don't believe that SH-AWD is a feature that sets the RL apart from the competition.
Keyless (or properly named "fobless") entry is a nice feature, but hardly exclusionary to the RL. One may argue that the RL is behind the times because one still must twist the "key" in the ignition while others have push button start.
The need to justify the shortcomings of a car merely indicates that you agree.
Here is a "pro"
When the 2005 came out it was a very nice modern design. I thought it was lovely when I saw a test mule (dk blue) driving in DC and followed it for miles. The ealy RLs are a pretty timeless design - Acura screwed that up with the beak.
#48
Senior Moderator
You must not have taken many U-turns. I have squealled the tires and had the rear end come out a little more than once.
But still, you have yet to contribute to the thread in the way the OP requested. What is you favorite feature of the RL?
Also, anyone who argues that turning a knob is less luxurious than pushing a button doesn't deserve to be driving a luxury sedan as they obviously cannot appreciate the features this car has.![2 Cents](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/2cents.gif)
I also misse the part where we said SH-AWD was superior to anything. I think you have confused this thread about a single car's features for a debate about the RL > *.
But still, you have yet to contribute to the thread in the way the OP requested. What is you favorite feature of the RL?
Also, anyone who argues that turning a knob is less luxurious than pushing a button doesn't deserve to be driving a luxury sedan as they obviously cannot appreciate the features this car has.
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I also misse the part where we said SH-AWD was superior to anything. I think you have confused this thread about a single car's features for a debate about the RL > *.
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#49
"However, I'm not convinced that the SH-AWD is superior to quattro, x-drive, 4MATIC or the slew of Haldex variants out there. Torque Vectoring doesn't come into play in day to day driving and is only valuable when driven to the limits. I've not seen a lot of RLs on the track nor would I suspect that any RL driver has ever reached the handling limits of their car. Accordingly, I don't believe that SH-AWD is a feature that sets the RL apart from the competition."
Really? Using your logic, why buy a car that can go over the speed limit?
Really? Using your logic, why buy a car that can go over the speed limit?
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#51
Instructor
Pray tell how do I reach the handling limit ?
Let me know and I'll try it this weekend.
Well that is as long as running off the side of a mountain is not involved.
Let me know and I'll try it this weekend.
Well that is as long as running off the side of a mountain is not involved.
#52
Hands down my favorite features are sh-awd. Along with manual mode... A BEAST in my opinion.... Can't wait to add j- pipe pre-cat deletes and CIA. Its sure to wake her up a bit!! Got my 07 with 75k for 16500. Best car for the money
#53
Side note: my LEAST favorite feature is how the rear shade goes down when u put in reverse, I feel that it's going to cause the motor to fail prematurely....I love the shades in this car. Makes my tint look darker
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#54
Senior Moderator
I've driven AWD exclusively for about 20 years now with a short foray into a FWD (GTI) and absolutely agree that AWD plus good tires is just so much better than either RWD or FWD.
However, I'm not convinced that the SH-AWD is superior to quattro, x-drive, 4MATIC or the slew of Haldex variants out there. Torque Vectoring doesn't come into play in day to day driving and is only valuable when driven to the limits. I've not seen a lot of RLs on the track nor would I suspect that any RL driver has ever reached the handling limits of their car. Accordingly, I don't believe that SH-AWD is a feature that sets the RL apart from the competition.
However, I'm not convinced that the SH-AWD is superior to quattro, x-drive, 4MATIC or the slew of Haldex variants out there. Torque Vectoring doesn't come into play in day to day driving and is only valuable when driven to the limits. I've not seen a lot of RLs on the track nor would I suspect that any RL driver has ever reached the handling limits of their car. Accordingly, I don't believe that SH-AWD is a feature that sets the RL apart from the competition.
Torque vectoring comes into play some while carving corners (e.g. driving assertively), but no one takes their RL to the limits on public roads. I hope.
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In any case, your homework for today is to write a comparo of the various types of AWD you've driven, if possible. That'd be an epic thread IMHO. I think such a comparison would be very useful for everybody here.
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The only RL I know of that was taken to the limits is the Spoon Legend, which was actually used on a race course.
#55
Let's start with this. I'm sure I'll come up with something later as well.
Quite frankly, in normal driving, one would be hard-pressed to see any discernible difference between SH-AWD, quattro or x-drive - you step on the gas, all four wheels get grip.
I suspect that many Acura drivers didn't come from AWD cars and are really impressed with AWD drive in general rather than with SH-AWD in particular.
#56
Turning a knob is clearly less modern than pushing a button and isn't in use by any other manufacturer except Chery.
Reliability by using proven technology is the big advantage of the RL but that also means that there is little cutting edge technology in the car - like there was in 2005.
#57
Senior Moderator
Acura helps your argument in its displaying a graphical representation of torque applied to each wheel on the MID. It is easy to be impressed when you can SEE the presumed benefit.
We need to have a separate thread on AWD.
#58
I drove Audi's for 8 years before buying the RL and quattro, although impressive in its own right, doesn't compare to SH-AWD. I've watched the MID while driving over black ice and was amazed at the rapid torque vectoring to the rear wheels and never once felt the car slipping. On this particular stretch of road that day I saw about 10 cars/trucks that had slid off the highway.
The Audi's were good at cornering also but again, at some of the speeds I have taken the RL into sharp turns I would not try that with the Audi. Probably end up needing a tow truck if I did.
The Audi's were good at cornering also but again, at some of the speeds I have taken the RL into sharp turns I would not try that with the Audi. Probably end up needing a tow truck if I did.
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#60
Instructor
I traded my girlfriend's Audi for the RL. Glad to see that turkey go and thankful that the carfax report on it was very incomplete. CV transmission troubles, interior rain water leak when some drain hole somewhere clogged up (there was a successful class action suit about it). Oh the leak fills up the ECU under the passenger seat. Disaster !
I like the waterproof RL !
I like the waterproof RL !
#61
Damn. Homework on a weekend.
Let's start with this. I'm sure I'll come up with something later as well.
Quite frankly, in normal driving, one would be hard-pressed to see any discernible difference between SH-AWD, quattro or x-drive - you step on the gas, all four wheels get grip.
I suspect that many Acura drivers didn't come from AWD cars and are really impressed with AWD drive in general rather than with SH-AWD in particular.
Let's start with this. I'm sure I'll come up with something later as well.
Quite frankly, in normal driving, one would be hard-pressed to see any discernible difference between SH-AWD, quattro or x-drive - you step on the gas, all four wheels get grip.
I suspect that many Acura drivers didn't come from AWD cars and are really impressed with AWD drive in general rather than with SH-AWD in particular.
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#63
Instructor
I could go with a laundry list of awesome things, but I like that the RL is a bit exclusive. Not meaning that it is unatainable, but that it lacks a frequency of appearances. I see more Bentleys than RLs. To desire an RL, you have to have a different kind of taste altogether.
#64
Racer
Well, I like how the car is the complete package, in a way I had no idea until I took delivery. I wanted a sports car initially, but honestly, that's for 10% of my driving time while this car suits me 90% of the time. It is smooth and comfortable, compliant, but not soft. Looks good, is a classy brand, fits my entire family. It handles good and has the paddle shifters for better control during spirited driving, It has more gadgets than I can use, and the best stereo I have ever heard! I think I would have to spend a lot more to get something I like better. It drives like that Mercedes 500SL I drove years ago, very planted and solid, maybe more so. I can't pick a favorite, it's the complete package!
And the previous poster's comment about exclusivity was spot on! I dont see many out there and people ask me if it's a NEW car. It's seven years old I tell them!!!!
And the previous poster's comment about exclusivity was spot on! I dont see many out there and people ask me if it's a NEW car. It's seven years old I tell them!!!!
#65
A little defensive, aren't we?
Turning a knob is clearly less modern than pushing a button and isn't in use by any other manufacturer except Chery.
Reliability by using proven technology is the big advantage of the RL but that also means that there is little cutting edge technology in the car - like there was in 2005.
Turning a knob is clearly less modern than pushing a button and isn't in use by any other manufacturer except Chery.
Reliability by using proven technology is the big advantage of the RL but that also means that there is little cutting edge technology in the car - like there was in 2005.
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#66
Burning Brakes
However, I see more RL's on the roads than I do Daihatsu Charades, which are also, apparently, quite exclusive.
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I see 3 different 2G RL's regularly and others from time to time.
#67
One of the things I like best about my 2005 RL is the leather smell -even at the ripe old age of nearly 8. I have a client with a new Lexus and every time he gets in my car, he says "I wish my car smelled this good"!
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#68
Racer
Yes, my 05 STILL smells like leather. I noticed it right away when I got in it. Very impressive. Remember, the smells in the car on a hot day can be toxic, you should roll down the windows and vent the car thoroughly as you ride away then roll em up and use the AC, Only a few seconds of wind should do it. I hate how the AC defaults to recirc, which is not needed unless it's over 90 outside.
#69
Having never pushed a button to start or stop an engine, I love still TURNING the Key on my RL. I get to work, sitting in parking lot finishing my coffee and turn engine off and radio continues to play music. How do you go into accessory mode on one of them push button type cars ? ![what](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/what.gif)
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On the BMW, a quick jab shuts of the car and leaves the car in accessory mode. A second jab (or a longer push initially) shuts everything down. I don't know how other manufacturers implement it.
With the engine off, a press of the button goes into accessory mode. Press the button with your foot on the brake and it starts.
#70
Senior Moderator
Sounds luxurious.
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#72
It talks
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I was so tired of hearing "Sharon" speak. That's what I call the lady on all the navigation devices. My kids get a kick outta telling "Sharon" to shut up... BUT NOW Ra2(my car) has a male voice.. Its like driving KITT.... LOL
So the best thang bout my RL is the Navi and HFLink Voice.
Then ofcourse the fact that its a 05 and driving down the street you cant tell the dif between it and an 08... MOOOOHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAA
#73
Senior Moderator
Wow. Another DMM. That's two in one week. Don't upgrade your nav; you will lose Kitt and be stuck with Sharon. Although I have managed to permanently disable her from everything but HF.
Heavy, is this a turbocharged snail?
Heavy, is this a turbocharged snail?
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#74
This is my first post. I've been using this forum for all sorts of information since I bought my RL a few months ago. Thanks for that!
CEB, not sure why you're so active on this forum if you don't own a RL. I'm also confused why you insist on speaking in such an inflammatory way. Sometimes it does seem like you're trolling here, but I doubt that's the case. This is a thread about favorite things. No one has said the RL is better than all other cars, so maybe back off a bit. Also, I don't think a single person on this thread claimed SH-AWD was the best awd system around. Let's leave that one be and move on.
That said, I have been surprisingly happy locking and unlocking the car without using the keyfob. It just gives you a feeling of coddling, like the car really wants to treat you like a king and is happy to see you.
My past cars have been a bit sportier, but I enjoy driving the RL more. It has a solid and sophisticated manner of going down the road that I really enjoy. I love the stereo even though my subwoofer rattles if it's up too loud. (anyone know a fix for this by the way?)
I love the seats. They manage to feel super plush but still have nice bolstering for going fast.
The leather is fantastic, especially on the doors and center console.
I love the way the side mirrors fold in so easily. I found my passenger side mirror folded in this morning, presumably because someone hit it. Zero damage. That's a nice feature and has already saved me a trip to the body shop.
So to sum this up. I feel like this is a car that Acura really cared about when designing. There are so many little details that make it special. That's my favorite feature.
CEB, not sure why you're so active on this forum if you don't own a RL. I'm also confused why you insist on speaking in such an inflammatory way. Sometimes it does seem like you're trolling here, but I doubt that's the case. This is a thread about favorite things. No one has said the RL is better than all other cars, so maybe back off a bit. Also, I don't think a single person on this thread claimed SH-AWD was the best awd system around. Let's leave that one be and move on.
That said, I have been surprisingly happy locking and unlocking the car without using the keyfob. It just gives you a feeling of coddling, like the car really wants to treat you like a king and is happy to see you.
My past cars have been a bit sportier, but I enjoy driving the RL more. It has a solid and sophisticated manner of going down the road that I really enjoy. I love the stereo even though my subwoofer rattles if it's up too loud. (anyone know a fix for this by the way?)
I love the seats. They manage to feel super plush but still have nice bolstering for going fast.
The leather is fantastic, especially on the doors and center console.
I love the way the side mirrors fold in so easily. I found my passenger side mirror folded in this morning, presumably because someone hit it. Zero damage. That's a nice feature and has already saved me a trip to the body shop.
So to sum this up. I feel like this is a car that Acura really cared about when designing. There are so many little details that make it special. That's my favorite feature.
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#75
Nice - what year did you get?
#77
Great. I'm original owner on 2005
I have some wear issues on interior - arm rests and a lot of rock chips on front, but most everything is solid.
Tip: Pull the door shut from the inside by the bottom of the door handle not the top. I realize most of the time the door kind of shuts itself with a slight pull, but in those situations where driver side is downhill do as I say!!! (trust me)
I have some wear issues on interior - arm rests and a lot of rock chips on front, but most everything is solid.
Tip: Pull the door shut from the inside by the bottom of the door handle not the top. I realize most of the time the door kind of shuts itself with a slight pull, but in those situations where driver side is downhill do as I say!!! (trust me)
#80
My RL has every option available. Love the active cruise control and SH AWD. Drove a 2012 TL with 799 miles on it yesterday and other than it being faster than my RL there is no comparison. The TL does not ride as good and the interior seems to be made very cheaply. It is simply a dressed up Honda Accord. I would imagine the customers who buy the TL never even test drive the RL or they would see the major difference. Mine is a 2006 and with 89,000 miles and will be keeping it until I can no longer drive. I am 63 years old and have owned at least 40 cars in my life and the RL is tops in every way.