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Originally Posted by petemc
Aw c'mon, we were just playing with the obvious troll 
...we stopped it quickly, like good little boys.
Pete
...we stopped it quickly, like good little boys.
Pete
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From: Houston, Texas
Petemc,
Glad to see you wouldn't bite. Very refined and distinguished behavior I must say.
All,
I think that if Acura were to add those items to the list then they would have 2 versions of the car available. Since Honda/Acura come with or without options. You would have a price of $49K or say $57K. I just dont see the RL staying below the $49K range much longer. I have always suggested that this is introductory pricing and will only increase in the future. I think I would like to see the 18" rims as standard, more aggressive body and beeter brakes. All the other features would be gravy.
BTW.. anyone ever notice that they probably couldn't do without many of the features included in the car now. My wife is hooked on these features.
Glad to see you wouldn't bite. Very refined and distinguished behavior I must say.
All,
I think that if Acura were to add those items to the list then they would have 2 versions of the car available. Since Honda/Acura come with or without options. You would have a price of $49K or say $57K. I just dont see the RL staying below the $49K range much longer. I have always suggested that this is introductory pricing and will only increase in the future. I think I would like to see the 18" rims as standard, more aggressive body and beeter brakes. All the other features would be gravy.
BTW.. anyone ever notice that they probably couldn't do without many of the features included in the car now. My wife is hooked on these features.
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From: California
Originally Posted by Hou-RL
Petemc,
Glad to see you wouldn't bite. Very refined and distinguished behavior I must say.
All,
I think that if Acura were to add those items to the list then they would have 2 versions of the car available. Since Honda/Acura come with or without options. You would have a price of $49K or say $57K. I just dont see the RL staying below the $49K range much longer. I have always suggested that this is introductory pricing and will only increase in the future. I think I would like to see the 18" rims as standard, more aggressive body and beeter brakes. All the other features would be gravy.
BTW.. anyone ever notice that they probably couldn't do without many of the features included in the car now. My wife is hooked on these features.
Glad to see you wouldn't bite. Very refined and distinguished behavior I must say.
All,
I think that if Acura were to add those items to the list then they would have 2 versions of the car available. Since Honda/Acura come with or without options. You would have a price of $49K or say $57K. I just dont see the RL staying below the $49K range much longer. I have always suggested that this is introductory pricing and will only increase in the future. I think I would like to see the 18" rims as standard, more aggressive body and beeter brakes. All the other features would be gravy.
BTW.. anyone ever notice that they probably couldn't do without many of the features included in the car now. My wife is hooked on these features.
On the features that you can and can't do without, that would be a great topic for a new thread...why don't you post it?
Pete
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From: New Orleans,LA
Originally Posted by SPUDMTN
I think the wheels on the RL are slightly too small. The competition (all of which are rather sporty) has at least 18's. Lexus has 18's, MB has 18's, BMW has 18's, Infiniti has 19's... I'm not talking big bling-bling chrome dub spinners with gold emblems and diamonds at every spoke. I'm talking tasteful OEM sporty wheels (think RL concept shown at New York). The wheels Acura put on the "prototype" RL filled out quite nicely. They were not gaudy or rediculous...they fit the RL in its sporty nature.
Check out these 20's on the concept RL...all we're asking for are 18's. The style is tastefully OEM and flatters the style of the RL. They're basically a larger version of the current wheel.
Out of the ghetto? Hardly. Maybe you're thinking of aftermarket crap wheels, that I agree can be on the distasteful side. But that makes cars interesting--they're a statement about the driver, whether it is our taste or not. It's perfectly fine if we don't like other people's style, but it is something that we should respect nonetheless.
Further, in respect, I was somewhat offended (and it appears others were as well) by the way you worded your reply. It seems everyone got so defensive simply by the response posted. It may not have been intended to come across as a defensive or disrespectful post, but that's how I (and others) took it. Maybe it was just a misunderstanding, but still...let's be civil (and mature).
Check out these 20's on the concept RL...all we're asking for are 18's. The style is tastefully OEM and flatters the style of the RL. They're basically a larger version of the current wheel.
Out of the ghetto? Hardly. Maybe you're thinking of aftermarket crap wheels, that I agree can be on the distasteful side. But that makes cars interesting--they're a statement about the driver, whether it is our taste or not. It's perfectly fine if we don't like other people's style, but it is something that we should respect nonetheless.
Further, in respect, I was somewhat offended (and it appears others were as well) by the way you worded your reply. It seems everyone got so defensive simply by the response posted. It may not have been intended to come across as a defensive or disrespectful post, but that's how I (and others) took it. Maybe it was just a misunderstanding, but still...let's be civil (and mature).
Well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From: Edmonton, Alberta
Originally Posted by SPUDMTN
LOL...I guess the list puts it into perspective I'm perfectly satisfied with the way the RL is by itself. To be honest, it is even a bit overwhelming at first. 
Are we getting greedy?
But of the features listed above, I feel only two should have been on the RL from the beginning:
-ventilated seats
-rain-sensing wipers
-8 way power passenger seat (with lumbar)...not on the list, I know...
That's it. I'm more than happy with the car as it is, but with these few added features, I'd be unbelievably, completely, thoroughly ecstatic
I'm perfectly satisfied with the way the RL is by itself. To be honest, it is even a bit overwhelming at first. Are we getting greedy?But of the features listed above, I feel only two should have been on the RL from the beginning:
-ventilated seats
-rain-sensing wipers
-8 way power passenger seat (with lumbar)...not on the list, I know...
That's it. I'm more than happy with the car as it is, but with these few added features, I'd be unbelievably, completely, thoroughly ecstatic
It should be trivial for Honda to include them for you guys.
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Originally Posted by Msnowdon
I was talking with a neighbor that works for America Honda, he works in quality controll for the Acura and Honda lines, he said the exterior of the 2007 RL will be more aggresive, as most focus groups are calling the exterior looks of the car the biggest down fall.
Again this is a rumor from someone that works in Torrence, not at a dealer.
Michael
Again this is a rumor from someone that works in Torrence, not at a dealer.
Michael
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From: SoCal
Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Honda has a 5 year cycle on most of their cars... Intoduction, MMC [1] in the 3rd year, and then a FMC [2] or redesign...
I've followed this trend with the Accord, RSX, etc. so I don't think many models are exempt from this lifecycle. 2007 would be the timeframe for a MMC for the RL.
Shamelessly stolen from http://vtec.net/modelmatrix/
[1] MMC: Minor Model Change - Mid-cycle freshening of an existing model. Often limited to subtle cosmetic changes but sometimes new trim levels and/or drivetrain options are introduced.
[2] FMC: Full Model Change - full redesign of a product, generally resulting in significant changes in packaging, performance, and styling.
I've followed this trend with the Accord, RSX, etc. so I don't think many models are exempt from this lifecycle. 2007 would be the timeframe for a MMC for the RL.
Shamelessly stolen from http://vtec.net/modelmatrix/
[1] MMC: Minor Model Change - Mid-cycle freshening of an existing model. Often limited to subtle cosmetic changes but sometimes new trim levels and/or drivetrain options are introduced.
[2] FMC: Full Model Change - full redesign of a product, generally resulting in significant changes in packaging, performance, and styling.
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From: Thomaston, GA
Originally Posted by g6civcx
The 270 bhp TL has horrible torque steer. I owned an '05 briefly before trading it in for the RL.
I also have an '00, which I think is more tolerable since it doesn't have much torque steer.
I also have an '00, which I think is more tolerable since it doesn't have much torque steer.
I agree with g6civcx. I owned an ' 04 TL for four month after trading in my '03 TL Type-S. The torque steer was awful.... Traded up to an '05 RL and then an '06 RL. Excellent car. I think there will be 3 versions of the RL for '07. Premium, Touring, and Tech. The premium will be the base model with no wood trim, or Navi. Touring will ge wood and Navi, and Tech.... well you know... already there.
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