New Exhaust Tips being installed Thursday
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New Exhaust Tips being installed Thursday
Went in for the XM, OnStar, and Transmission update.
Dealer also agreed to install new, longer, exhaust tips to keep the car clean.
Told me they will be no charge under warranty.
I have 2 part numbers shown:
18310-sja-a01
18320-sja-a01
Dealer also agreed to install new, longer, exhaust tips to keep the car clean.
Told me they will be no charge under warranty.
I have 2 part numbers shown:
18310-sja-a01
18320-sja-a01
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Originally Posted by Rich in NC
Went in for the XM, OnStar, and Transmission update.
Dealer also agreed to install new, longer, exhaust tips to keep the car clean.
Told me they will be no charge under warranty.
I have 2 part numbers shown:
18310-sja-a01
18320-sja-a01
Dealer also agreed to install new, longer, exhaust tips to keep the car clean.
Told me they will be no charge under warranty.
I have 2 part numbers shown:
18310-sja-a01
18320-sja-a01
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Originally Posted by stingerbtry
The new exhaust tips aren't any longer, they're just made differently inside. The 05's are sunk in to where you can't see the inner hole as easily and the new 06 tips are nearly flush with the end of the tip. I seriously doubt it will make any difference from what I can tell by looking at them but who knows. They must have changed them for some reason I guess.
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Originally Posted by Rich in NC
Went in for the XM, OnStar, and Transmission update.
Dealer also agreed to install new, longer, exhaust tips to keep the car clean.
Told me they will be no charge under warranty.
I have 2 part numbers shown:
18310-sja-a01
18320-sja-a01
Dealer also agreed to install new, longer, exhaust tips to keep the car clean.
Told me they will be no charge under warranty.
I have 2 part numbers shown:
18310-sja-a01
18320-sja-a01
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Originally Posted by andrewgg2
I have called the dealer and they ordered new exhaust tips for my 05 RL as well. They will be changing them under warranty as well. ![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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Originally Posted by tyrael
How easy was it to talk to them into changing them out?
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Originally Posted by tyrael
How easy was it to talk to them into changing them out? I'm waiting for a response. I'm crossing my fingers! They might as well make this a TSB. The dirt is just terrible! It destroys the car within two days of heaving driving!
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Originally Posted by AltecBX
What exactly is the problem. Is this happening on the '06 model or just the '05 models?
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I do not think that this threat is worthless!!!!! It lets the owners of 05's know that they should ask for new exhaust tips, since formal TSB is not available! The pictures will not tell you anything, since both tips look the same! Read above, before you post!!!! !! Pelase........
One more nonsense like this, and SOOPA will remove your Moderator rights. Since you have gotten your new car you are not helping this forum anymore!
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Originally Posted by Rich in NC
Will do.
![](http://member.newsguy.com/~rmoburg/jpegs/Exhaust%20Tips/Original%20Tip.jpg)
New tip:
![](http://member.newsguy.com/~rmoburg/jpegs/Exhaust%20Tips/Replacement%20Tip.jpg)
Same protrusion depth in relation to the car.
But a much changed interior of the tip itself.
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Originally Posted by sleepinxlionhart
cool. how do they change it by the way? do they take off the whole muffler and then unscrew the tip, or they unscrew the tip without touching anything else?
I wasn't back in the shop and I didn't think to ask. It took about 10 minutes so I would guess it's just an end point attachment.
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I'd wager that the new design redirects the flow of the exhaust (probably causing more back pressure) away from the bumper.
The exhaust tips are held in place by a screw or two. All you have to do is loosen them and then pull the tip off.
The exhaust tips are held in place by a screw or two. All you have to do is loosen them and then pull the tip off.
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Originally Posted by bkw
I'd wager that the new design redirects the flow of the exhaust (probably causing more back pressure) away from the bumper.
The exhaust tips are held in place by a screw or two. All you have to do is loosen them and then pull the tip off.
The exhaust tips are held in place by a screw or two. All you have to do is loosen them and then pull the tip off.
I can't imagine there would be measurable difference in back pressure. There doesn't seem to be a discernable difference in the diameter of the passage way.
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Originally Posted by tyrael
alright...so now I have to convince the dealership that others are doing it. has anyone else had luck with having this service done?
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Originally Posted by lindros2
My dealer in Atlanta ordered the part(s) without question.
Same here, the dealer ordered without any questions. What sucks is that we should have a TSB, but Acura thinks it is not necessary. Since they have redesigned this part for 2006, it is clear to me that they have confirmed indirectly that 2005 has “defective” tips. So, what is up Acura with the TSB, this is how you treat your best customers that buy your flagship?
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Originally Posted by andrewgg2
Same here, the dealer ordered without any questions. What sucks is that we should have a TSB, but Acura thinks it is not necessary. Since they have redesigned this part for 2006, it is clear to me that they have confirmed indirectly that 2005 has “defective” tips. So, what is up Acura with the TSB, this is how you treat your best customers that buy your flagship? ![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
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Originally Posted by andrewgg2
Same here, the dealer ordered without any questions. What sucks is that we should have a TSB, but Acura thinks it is not necessary. Since they have redesigned this part for 2006, it is clear to me that they have confirmed indirectly that 2005 has “defective” tips. So, what is up Acura with the TSB, this is how you treat your best customers that buy your flagship? ![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
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I would not think of buying a different car if things like that were taken car of. I would not even consider , for example, buying a Lexus as my next car, if Acura treated me that way! The problem is they do not and because of that I would not buy Acura another unless they mend their ways!
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Originally Posted by AltecBX
I know is the new SAE rating, but you think that tip has something to do with the 300HP to 290HP? That tip looks a lot narrower inside.
Perhaps if you put a set of these on you'll get at least 40 more HP:
![](http://www.autotoys.com/pics/BZSVMTYL.jpg)
Slap some "Type-R" stickers on there, and it'll go even FASTER!
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Originally Posted by jftjr
Your dealer ordered the part without question -- so what's your beef about how the customers are treated?
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This is my point.
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Originally Posted by andrewgg2
If it was not for this forum, I would not even know that new tips are available. Acura would not tell you! Sure the dealer ordered the part, since I have asked him to do so. But what happens to people that do not even know that this is an option?
This is my point.
This is my point.
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Originally Posted by Rich in NC
Really? As far as I know anybody that complained about the soot on the back bumper is going to get the part.
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Originally Posted by andrewgg2
Again, the point is that we should not be complaining to our service departments; if something is "defective" it should be fixed by a TSB release at a next service. (Especially since Acura is aware of this problem) Also some people might not be aware of this issue. If you have a Black or dark color car, the spots can be mistaken for something else. See my point?
Frankly, for something that's a purely cosmetic issue, the fact that they're doing anything at all about it is pretty exceptional. Further, anyone who complains about it gets it fixed right away at no cost.... I think that qualifies as excellent customer service.
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Originally Posted by jftjr
Frankly, for something that's a purely cosmetic issue, the fact that they're doing anything at all about it is pretty exceptional.
It's not "purely cosmetic" - the soot is STAINING my bumper. It's impossible to clean (you can still see some residue in the pictures if you look closely).
And this relates back to another thread on "what's the lowest cost for an RL ?" I get things fixed quickly without question because I'm fair to my dealer, and they're fair to me. It's quid pro quo.
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Originally Posted by lindros2
I'd push back on this comment.
It's not "purely cosmetic" - the soot is STAINING my bumper. It's impossible to clean (you can still see some residue in the pictures if you look closely).
And this relates back to another thread on "what's the lowest cost for an RL ?" I get things fixed quickly without question because I'm fair to my dealer, and they're fair to me. It's quid pro quo.
It's not "purely cosmetic" - the soot is STAINING my bumper. It's impossible to clean (you can still see some residue in the pictures if you look closely).
And this relates back to another thread on "what's the lowest cost for an RL ?" I get things fixed quickly without question because I'm fair to my dealer, and they're fair to me. It's quid pro quo.
Factor in the cost of your exhaust tips for the amount you're overpaying for your car... you can keep feeling good about being "fair" to someone whose job it is to get as much money out of you as possible, but the fact is, it's clearly being replaced upon request for anyone.... and it's not because they were nice to the salesman.
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Originally Posted by jftjr
I have a Lakeshore Silver RL. Never had any issues with soot or spotting. Do I need my exhaust tips replaced? No. Why do I need a TSB?
Frankly, for something that's a purely cosmetic issue, the fact that they're doing anything at all about it is pretty exceptional. Further, anyone who complains about it gets it fixed right away at no cost.... I think that qualifies as excellent customer service.
Frankly, for something that's a purely cosmetic issue, the fact that they're doing anything at all about it is pretty exceptional. Further, anyone who complains about it gets it fixed right away at no cost.... I think that qualifies as excellent customer service.
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Originally Posted by andrewgg2
Cosmetic? I do not think so. If you keep getting those pots from your hot exhaust on your car for period of time, you will eventually have paint discoloration guarantee! Do not come back and complain!
I'm not saying it's not a problem, I'm saying it's just about the way your bumper looks. Period. It's nothing to do with the performance, safety, or operation of the car.
They're taking care of anyone who asks about the problem. What more could you want?
I mean, compare it to GM, who for years and years had issues with clearcoat being destroyed by acid rain in the Northeast. They did NOTHING to fix it -- just said "hey, it's environmental, it's cosmetic, it's not our fault the paint is crappy, too bad."
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Originally Posted by jftjr
I mean, compare it to GM, who for years and years had issues with clearcoat being destroyed by acid rain in the Northeast. They did NOTHING to fix it -- just said "hey, it's environmental, it's cosmetic, it's not our fault the paint is crappy, too bad."
1. Acid rain is an EXTERNAL factor. That is - GM can't control the rain.
2. The staining of the car is being caused -BY- the design of the exhaust. Acura -CAN- control this.
The only similar items I can draw from personal experience were both remedied by manufacturers - discolored door on my Audi (from the factory) and paint chipping on my TL where the front bumper met the quarter panel. Both were controllable by the manufacturer.
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Originally Posted by lindros2
There are two facts you're missing here:
1. Acid rain is an EXTERNAL factor. That is - GM can't control the rain.
2. The staining of the car is being caused -BY- the design of the exhaust. Acura -CAN- control this.
The only similar items I can draw from personal experience were both remedied by manufacturers - discolored door on my Audi (from the factory) and paint chipping on my TL where the front bumper met the quarter panel. Both were controllable by the manufacturer.
1. Acid rain is an EXTERNAL factor. That is - GM can't control the rain.
2. The staining of the car is being caused -BY- the design of the exhaust. Acura -CAN- control this.
The only similar items I can draw from personal experience were both remedied by manufacturers - discolored door on my Audi (from the factory) and paint chipping on my TL where the front bumper met the quarter panel. Both were controllable by the manufacturer.
But the point you're missing is -- even if it's in their control, Acura *is* fixing this. Again and again, I'll just keep asking -- tell me what they're doing wrong if Acura is fixing it for anyone who asks?
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Originally Posted by jftjr
Yeah, that's the ticket. It's the new exhaust tips.
Perhaps if you put a set of these on you'll get at least 40 more HP:
Slap some "Type-R" stickers on there, and it'll go even FASTER!
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Perhaps if you put a set of these on you'll get at least 40 more HP:
![](http://www.autotoys.com/pics/BZSVMTYL.jpg)
Slap some "Type-R" stickers on there, and it'll go even FASTER!
![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
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Originally Posted by jftjr
But the point you're missing is -- even if it's in their control, Acura *is* fixing this. Again and again, I'll just keep asking -- tell me what they're doing wrong if Acura is fixing it for anyone who asks?
Or actually - the dealers are doing right by us.
Acura Client Service (nee Honda) is a bunch of shitbags.