Fog it
11-16-2011, 06:17 AM
#1
Three Wheelin'
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Fog it
Today my ride to work was through significant fog and it really displayed the useless headlight modifications that people have made. It used to be that mis-aligned headlights were a result of an accident but today, it seems that, people do it on purpose.
Changing a bulb frequently puts the filament in the non focussed part of the reflector and the light scatters all over the place with only about 25% reaching the road ahead. Of the mis-aligned bulbs, most of them increased the color temp to 6 - 8K and therefore lit up the fog very nicely but you couldn't see anything else.
The other item, that I have commented on before, is the usefullness of the rear high intensity fog light. When used properly they are a great asset to all who follow you particularly on low density freeways in thick fog. It is totally beyond me why the idiots in Washington cannot legislate their mandatory implementation for all new cars. If you have not seen them used in thick fog then you will be amazed as to why everybody doesn't have them. When manufacturers and the government tell you that safety is their first concern then you can be rest assured that they are full of it. They would rather give you a head restraint than to allow the avoidance of a rear end collision to start with.
You know Honda (Acura) know it's a good idea because they have them on their cars but only because they are mandated by countries that have politicians that can actually drive.
Changing a bulb frequently puts the filament in the non focussed part of the reflector and the light scatters all over the place with only about 25% reaching the road ahead. Of the mis-aligned bulbs, most of them increased the color temp to 6 - 8K and therefore lit up the fog very nicely but you couldn't see anything else.
The other item, that I have commented on before, is the usefullness of the rear high intensity fog light. When used properly they are a great asset to all who follow you particularly on low density freeways in thick fog. It is totally beyond me why the idiots in Washington cannot legislate their mandatory implementation for all new cars. If you have not seen them used in thick fog then you will be amazed as to why everybody doesn't have them. When manufacturers and the government tell you that safety is their first concern then you can be rest assured that they are full of it. They would rather give you a head restraint than to allow the avoidance of a rear end collision to start with.
You know Honda (Acura) know it's a good idea because they have them on their cars but only because they are mandated by countries that have politicians that can actually drive.
11-16-2011, 07:37 AM
#5
Three Wheelin'
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Somebody has to point out the error of their ways otherwise the idiots minding the store will put Ding Dings and Dong Dongs every time you open the door or you haven't put your seat belt on yet. Hell, who knows, they may even put a non-removable sticker on your visor to deface the interior to tell you that your steering wheel may explode!
BTW - Good Morning!
BTW - Good Morning!
11-16-2011, 08:26 AM
#6
Burning Brakes
We don't get fog often, but when we do it's likely to be thick. I know exactly what you mean about the cars with HID or blue-matched fogs that look trendy but work like crap in the fog.
Mercedes and Land Rovers with foglights on the front have a rear fog that illuminates when the fogs are on. It's annoying in clear weather to roll up on a car like that, but impressive in deep fog how much sooner they can be seen.
Mercedes and Land Rovers with foglights on the front have a rear fog that illuminates when the fogs are on. It's annoying in clear weather to roll up on a car like that, but impressive in deep fog how much sooner they can be seen.
11-16-2011, 09:00 AM
#7
Suzuka Master
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I can honestly say I've never experienced a "rear fog light" but I do HATE that visor sticker!!
I went with the Lexus looking yellow fog light bulbs, they seem to do the trick nicely.
This thread needs maor piks.
I went with the Lexus looking yellow fog light bulbs, they seem to do the trick nicely.
This thread needs maor piks.
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11-16-2011, 09:04 AM
#8
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
We don't get fog often, but when we do it's likely to be thick. I know exactly what you mean about the cars with HID or blue-matched fogs that look trendy but work like crap in the fog.
Mercedes and Land Rovers with foglights on the front have a rear fog that illuminates when the fogs are on. It's annoying in clear weather to roll up on a car like that, but impressive in deep fog how much sooner they can be seen.
Mercedes and Land Rovers with foglights on the front have a rear fog that illuminates when the fogs are on. It's annoying in clear weather to roll up on a car like that, but impressive in deep fog how much sooner they can be seen.
11-16-2011, 09:11 AM
#9
Three Wheelin'
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11-16-2011, 09:42 AM
#10
Senior Moderator
Somebody has to point out the error of their ways otherwise the idiots minding the store will put Ding Dings and Dong Dongs every time you open the door or you haven't put your seat belt on yet. Hell, who knows, they may even put a non-removable sticker on your visor to deface the interior to tell you that your steering wheel may explode!
BTW - Good Morning!
BTW - Good Morning!
And before you go on about my 6k fogs, I rarely if ever experience fog here. I also didn't choose that color, they came with the deal.
Also, I can turn my fogs on without my low beams for minimal reflection when I do go with a lower temp color.
Also, I don't understand this comment.
EDIT: nvrmnd. Changing the bulb (pause) frequently... not Changing the bulb frequently (pause)... got it!
Last edited by oo7spy; 11-16-2011 at 09:45 AM.
11-16-2011, 10:09 AM
#11
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
It's not the choir I wish to influence, I was hoping that someone at the SAE or NHTSA or Honda may be a member of this forum and that they have enough of what it takes to make an intelligent change. And my soap box will never collapse as long as there is a better way.
11-16-2011, 10:18 AM
#12
Senior Moderator
Yeah, I understand completely. You aren't the first to put good suggestions here hoping someone who can make a difference sees it. I have yet to see one of those people here or at least seen them come out. Maybe a letter to American Honda Motor Co., Inc.? 
11-16-2011, 11:34 AM
#14
The majority of people give two shits about what you're talking about, let alone know the proper way to drive through fog.
11-16-2011, 12:01 PM
#15
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
[QUOTE=L's TL;13366740]No, because the forum audience represents a small group of fanatics, fanboys, and car enthusiasts and not the masses they appeal too.
QUOTE]The advantage of the RL is that it is only owned by fanatics, fanboys, and car enthusiasts, the masses bought the TL.
QUOTE]The advantage of the RL is that it is only owned by fanatics, fanboys, and car enthusiasts, the masses bought the TL.
11-16-2011, 01:34 PM
#17
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by Carreview.com, On the 2011 RL
The target demographic for this segment is middle-aged, male, relatively high income, a solid corporate job or owner of a business, and maybe a small family.
If a sub 30 year old male is going to drop $50k on a car, are they going to go with a 2 ton, AWD, naturally aspirated V6 putting 220 horses on the ground or drop $6k more and get an M3? It's an old man's car. Is it a great car? Yes, no doubt, but it isn't a bad ass car.
So bummed. Thought I had a badass car and it turns out I'm a grandpa car owner. 
11-16-2011, 03:12 PM
#19
Safety Car
So just out of curiosity, how is the rear fog light implemented in the RL in markets that require them?
I have experienced the rear fog lights in European and Asian countries, and they are very useful...
I have experienced the rear fog lights in European and Asian countries, and they are very useful...
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