Acura Website now lists 2012 Acura RL
10-14-2011, 03:03 PM
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Been over all the pages on site between 2011 RL and 2012 RL
Changes:
All pricing increased $500 across board (12 standard $500 more than 11, 12 tech $500 more than 11, etc.)
New Exterior Color Platinum Frost Metallic for 2012
Actually PFM color isn't new, just dropped on 2011 and brought back for 2012
Anyone confirm?
Changes:
All pricing increased $500 across board (12 standard $500 more than 11, 12 tech $500 more than 11, etc.)
New Exterior Color Platinum Frost Metallic for 2012
Actually PFM color isn't new, just dropped on 2011 and brought back for 2012
Anyone confirm?
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10-14-2011, 03:13 PM
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I don't see any difference in features or accessories. I saw a picture of a wood grain shift knob, but I'm not sure if that comes in the '11 or not.
10-14-2011, 09:11 PM
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Well, it's more or less a sell out of the 2011 left overs 
10-15-2011, 07:47 PM
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Bleh.
Bring on the 3G already.
Bring on the 3G already.
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10-18-2011, 04:17 PM
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Guys, any idea on when the 3G will possibly surface? News or ramblings from Honda or Acura?
Although I love the 2G RL, (I own an '06 A-spec), this car needs some love. Come on Honda, bring on the RWD and V8! (wishful thinking)
Although I love the 2G RL, (I own an '06 A-spec), this car needs some love. Come on Honda, bring on the RWD and V8! (wishful thinking)
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10-18-2011, 11:29 PM
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These are older rumors but the new RL would supposedly be larger and more expensive in order to compete more evenly with other flagships such as the Lexus LS, Infiniti M, BMW 7, etc..
10-19-2011, 08:00 AM
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Pulled from Wiki...Looks like they are banking on 2013, but highly doubt the V8 and RWD...
In 2008, Edmunds.com Inside Line "Future Vehicles" is claiming that the next generation Acura RL (third-generation RL/fifth-generation Honda Legend) flagship model will be powered by a V8. Power is expected to be sent to the rear wheels, and the next generation of Acura's SH-AWD system to be used on the next RL will engage the front wheels only if the rear wheels' traction is compromised. IL’s source claims that a 4.8L V8 producing 420 horsepower (310 kW) is being developed and will feature cylinder deactivation technology to keep fuel economy up.
Other news and rumors indicate that Acura will be launched as an upscale brand in Japan, and the 2011 model year RL, with a V-8, will be part of that launch, as will the replacement for the Acura NSX. The NSX follow-on would be the so called "halo" car, with the RL heading the Acura line up as a luxury sedan flagship.
A July 10, 2008 Acura press release announced the upcoming fourth-generation 2009 Acura TL will come in two versions, one of which will have SH-AWD and the "...most powerful Acura engine ever...." If the TL is to continue as the model slotted below the Acura RL, the specifications of the 2009 TL would almost have to dictate that the future generation RL will have to be a larger, more powerful car, as indicated by the Edmunds article.
With the recent 2008 worldwide economic downturn, Honda has made some announcements that may change the future of Acura, and the RL in particular. Long rumored V-8's slated for the projected 2011 Full Model Change (FMC) may be a good deal further off, as long as 2015, according to an article in Edmunds Inside Line which cited a November 26, 2008 article in Edmunds Auto Observer. Before the 2008 economic downturn, Acura was also rumored to be developing a new multi-purpose rear wheel drive specific platform, possibly similar to the strategy used by Nissan's Infiniti line. This would allow Acura to better compete with so called Tier One cars (e.g., BMW and Mercedes-Benz). In a December 17, 2008 announcement from Takeo Fukui, CEO of Honda, the introduction of the Acura brand to Japan in 2010 will be pushed back to an undetermined date, and the development of the V-10 NSX replacement will be cancelled. More recent articles, such as a February 9 Motor Trend Online article about the Honda CRZ state outright that the Acura rear wheel drive platform has been canceled as a result of the 2008-09 financial crisis.
A more recent October 2009 Car and Driver blog cites a dinner with Acura executives who acknowledge that the introduction of the new, larger, and in some guises, more powerful, fourth generation Acura TL makes it extremely difficult to market the current RL. They speak of a new generation RL in one or two year's time that will reassert itself as the Acura flagship, but not with a V-8 as the rest of the market has done in the BMW 550, Hyundai Genesis, Infiniti M, Lexus GS 460 and the Mercedes E-Class. All of these cars are available in six cylinder and V-8 variants. Acura says the actual sell rate of V-8's is quite small, and in the coming world of $4.00 per gallon gasoline, not the way of the future
In November 2009, an Autoweek article indicates that the new Honda CEO Takanobu Ito told Automotive News that Acura is going to change course away from V-8 Tier 1 items to something different. Speaking of the worldwide economy before the collapse of investment banker Lehman Brothers, Ito said through an interpreter, "Pre-Lehman, we did have the idea to produce more multicylinder engines...I see the future of Acura as a merger of BMW and Audi--something between high performance and high technology." As a result of this midstream change, Acura will be in a "low-growth period of developing new products," Ito said. "We were thinking that we could come up with glamorous, gorgeous products that would sell. Now, our premium products will be expressed in advanced environmental technologies, rather than glamorous things attached to the product," he said.
This leaves the future of the Acura RL somewhat clouded. On tap for 2010 is the new Acura ZDX crossover, and for 2011 is the Acura TSX Sport Wagon, a wagon version of the current second generation Acura TSX. No clear plans have been announced for the next generation Acura RL, but rumors abound, including the possibility of a hybrid electric gas powered next generation Acura RL, as part of the new Acura concept of "Smart Luxury". Dealers have been promised an "amazing new RL" with no real details.
In July 2010, the summer issue of Acura Style magazine, a publication dedicated to Acura owners, discusses changes to the 2011 RL, which includes a 6-speed transmission with "low gear ratios" for improved acceleration and performance, a "Next Generation Grill" and "Dramatic New 18" wheels", "power folding mirrors", "parking sensors", along with a restyled rear fascia and new Light Orchid interior, as well as "Resonators at each wheel to minimize NVH".
It is unclear as to whether Acura Style magazine is teasing the reader with another Mid Model Change (MMC) update to the existing second generation Acura RL, or discussing a "Special Edition" type package to boost the last year of sales before a Full Model Change (FMC). The FMC had been previously rumored for a late calendar year 2011 introduction, as a completely new model year 2012 design, which would become the third-generation Acura RL. FMC's are usually announced with great fanfare, so the changes detailed in Acura Style magazine are likely just an update for the 2011 model year of the current second generation Acura RL, and not a FMC. Significant to note is the addition of a new transmission, with presumably only one more model year remaining of current generation sales.
In December 2010, Acura released details of the a second "mid model change". There is no indication as to whether the 2011 model will be the last year of the second generation RL or if there will be one further 2012 model year. If history is any teacher, it will likely be that the 2012 model year RL will be the last of the second generation RL's with a 2013 model year heralding the introduction of third generation Acura RL.
In 2008, Edmunds.com Inside Line "Future Vehicles" is claiming that the next generation Acura RL (third-generation RL/fifth-generation Honda Legend) flagship model will be powered by a V8. Power is expected to be sent to the rear wheels, and the next generation of Acura's SH-AWD system to be used on the next RL will engage the front wheels only if the rear wheels' traction is compromised. IL’s source claims that a 4.8L V8 producing 420 horsepower (310 kW) is being developed and will feature cylinder deactivation technology to keep fuel economy up.
Other news and rumors indicate that Acura will be launched as an upscale brand in Japan, and the 2011 model year RL, with a V-8, will be part of that launch, as will the replacement for the Acura NSX. The NSX follow-on would be the so called "halo" car, with the RL heading the Acura line up as a luxury sedan flagship.
A July 10, 2008 Acura press release announced the upcoming fourth-generation 2009 Acura TL will come in two versions, one of which will have SH-AWD and the "...most powerful Acura engine ever...." If the TL is to continue as the model slotted below the Acura RL, the specifications of the 2009 TL would almost have to dictate that the future generation RL will have to be a larger, more powerful car, as indicated by the Edmunds article.
With the recent 2008 worldwide economic downturn, Honda has made some announcements that may change the future of Acura, and the RL in particular. Long rumored V-8's slated for the projected 2011 Full Model Change (FMC) may be a good deal further off, as long as 2015, according to an article in Edmunds Inside Line which cited a November 26, 2008 article in Edmunds Auto Observer. Before the 2008 economic downturn, Acura was also rumored to be developing a new multi-purpose rear wheel drive specific platform, possibly similar to the strategy used by Nissan's Infiniti line. This would allow Acura to better compete with so called Tier One cars (e.g., BMW and Mercedes-Benz). In a December 17, 2008 announcement from Takeo Fukui, CEO of Honda, the introduction of the Acura brand to Japan in 2010 will be pushed back to an undetermined date, and the development of the V-10 NSX replacement will be cancelled. More recent articles, such as a February 9 Motor Trend Online article about the Honda CRZ state outright that the Acura rear wheel drive platform has been canceled as a result of the 2008-09 financial crisis.
A more recent October 2009 Car and Driver blog cites a dinner with Acura executives who acknowledge that the introduction of the new, larger, and in some guises, more powerful, fourth generation Acura TL makes it extremely difficult to market the current RL. They speak of a new generation RL in one or two year's time that will reassert itself as the Acura flagship, but not with a V-8 as the rest of the market has done in the BMW 550, Hyundai Genesis, Infiniti M, Lexus GS 460 and the Mercedes E-Class. All of these cars are available in six cylinder and V-8 variants. Acura says the actual sell rate of V-8's is quite small, and in the coming world of $4.00 per gallon gasoline, not the way of the future
In November 2009, an Autoweek article indicates that the new Honda CEO Takanobu Ito told Automotive News that Acura is going to change course away from V-8 Tier 1 items to something different. Speaking of the worldwide economy before the collapse of investment banker Lehman Brothers, Ito said through an interpreter, "Pre-Lehman, we did have the idea to produce more multicylinder engines...I see the future of Acura as a merger of BMW and Audi--something between high performance and high technology." As a result of this midstream change, Acura will be in a "low-growth period of developing new products," Ito said. "We were thinking that we could come up with glamorous, gorgeous products that would sell. Now, our premium products will be expressed in advanced environmental technologies, rather than glamorous things attached to the product," he said.
This leaves the future of the Acura RL somewhat clouded. On tap for 2010 is the new Acura ZDX crossover, and for 2011 is the Acura TSX Sport Wagon, a wagon version of the current second generation Acura TSX. No clear plans have been announced for the next generation Acura RL, but rumors abound, including the possibility of a hybrid electric gas powered next generation Acura RL, as part of the new Acura concept of "Smart Luxury". Dealers have been promised an "amazing new RL" with no real details.
In July 2010, the summer issue of Acura Style magazine, a publication dedicated to Acura owners, discusses changes to the 2011 RL, which includes a 6-speed transmission with "low gear ratios" for improved acceleration and performance, a "Next Generation Grill" and "Dramatic New 18" wheels", "power folding mirrors", "parking sensors", along with a restyled rear fascia and new Light Orchid interior, as well as "Resonators at each wheel to minimize NVH".
It is unclear as to whether Acura Style magazine is teasing the reader with another Mid Model Change (MMC) update to the existing second generation Acura RL, or discussing a "Special Edition" type package to boost the last year of sales before a Full Model Change (FMC). The FMC had been previously rumored for a late calendar year 2011 introduction, as a completely new model year 2012 design, which would become the third-generation Acura RL. FMC's are usually announced with great fanfare, so the changes detailed in Acura Style magazine are likely just an update for the 2011 model year of the current second generation Acura RL, and not a FMC. Significant to note is the addition of a new transmission, with presumably only one more model year remaining of current generation sales.
In December 2010, Acura released details of the a second "mid model change". There is no indication as to whether the 2011 model will be the last year of the second generation RL or if there will be one further 2012 model year. If history is any teacher, it will likely be that the 2012 model year RL will be the last of the second generation RL's with a 2013 model year heralding the introduction of third generation Acura RL.
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