Stretching the Range
#1
Racer
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Stretching the Range
I ran my fuel down until the low fuel warning came on, then drove 1.8 miles to a gas station. I filled the tank with a small "top-off" after the automatic shut-off. It took 13.456 gallons. So, there was 2.54 gallons in the 16 gallon tank. And it took about 0.1 gallon to drive 1.8 miles to the gas station, assuming 19 mpg city gas mileage. The warning came on when the range clicked from 40 miles to 39 miles and the gas gauge needle was on the first white mark above the red empty mark.
So you say "so what?" Well, I like to know how much fuel and range I have when that warning pops up. Sometimes I forget to get gas and the warning reminds me. Sometimes I am stretching for the next gas station on the road. Anyway, it appears that when the warning comes on I will have a maximum of about 49.4 miles of city driving or 70.2 miles of highway driving. In the city, 49.4 miles is more than enough to find a gas station. On the highway, 70.2 miles is enough in most places. (Applying a safety factor of course.) To be conservative, assume 40 miles left when the warning comes on. Incidentally, my 2001 MDX had almost exactly the same range when the warning light came on, 51 city miles and 69 highway miles.
Regards, Jim
So you say "so what?" Well, I like to know how much fuel and range I have when that warning pops up. Sometimes I forget to get gas and the warning reminds me. Sometimes I am stretching for the next gas station on the road. Anyway, it appears that when the warning comes on I will have a maximum of about 49.4 miles of city driving or 70.2 miles of highway driving. In the city, 49.4 miles is more than enough to find a gas station. On the highway, 70.2 miles is enough in most places. (Applying a safety factor of course.) To be conservative, assume 40 miles left when the warning comes on. Incidentally, my 2001 MDX had almost exactly the same range when the warning light came on, 51 city miles and 69 highway miles.
Regards, Jim
#2
My first tank I let it get down to 20 something miles left then filled 13.724 gallons to auto shut-off. Like you just wanted to confirm it would not run out so I know I could go that low if I had to. (had filled gallon can just in case) Keep in mind it is not good to make a habit of running so low. Increased chance of sucking up sediment and the fuel in the tank also cools the pump. Plus the 16 gallon rating includes unusable air space for expansion so I was pretty much empty.
#3
Instructor
Great post. Just a thought - can you actually fill a tank to 100%? I think your 40 mile "warning range" is spot on though.
Might be able to push it a bit more but you're risking... pushing it to the gas station. Ha ha. Sorry I had to.
Might be able to push it a bit more but you're risking... pushing it to the gas station. Ha ha. Sorry I had to.
#4
Racer
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My first tank I let it get down to 20 something miles left then filled 13.724 gallons to auto shut-off. Like you just wanted to confirm it would not run out so I know I could go that low if I had to. (had filled gallon can just in case) Keep in mind it is not good to make a habit of running so low. Increased chance of sucking up sediment and the fuel in the tank also cools the pump. Plus the 16 gallon rating includes unusable air space for expansion so I was pretty much empty.
Thanks, Jim
#5
Racer
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I have never known what fuel capacity meant. Total tank volume to the cap, or usable or what. Anyway, I suppose the only way to know for sure would be to run it empty and fill up. BUT, that could be a very expensive experiment. Maybe need to have the injectors cleaned, etc. Definitely not recommended.
Regards, Jim
#7
I had it set to "Range" and knew I was low when I parked it the night before. Wasn't paying close attention to it but when I started the car the next day it showed 27 miles briefly then the large warning you mention replaced it. I drove about 3-4 miles to the gas station without looking at it again and filled up that is why I said 20 something. The regular low fuel warning indicator in the dash is supposed to stay on when low but I think the larger warning that displays on the MID is supposed to cycle on and off though I cannot confirm that.
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#8
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Regards, Jim
#9
Yes it does if you have the MID set to display "Range" but as mentioned earlier once you get below 40 miles left a larger low fuel warning displays on the MID. I thought I read somewhere that the warning cycles on and off but I could be wrong. There is still the regular warning lamp for low fuel in the dash. At least I can confirm that the range below 40 miles will display when you start the engine.
#10
Yes it does if you have the MID set to display "Range" but as mentioned earlier once you get below 40 miles left a larger low fuel warning displays on the MID. I thought I read somewhere that the warning cycles on and off but I could be wrong. There is still the regular warning lamp for low fuel in the dash. At least I can confirm that the range below 40 miles will display when you start the engine.
#11
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Thanks, Jim
#12
mrgold35
I’ve always thought the Distance Till Empty (DTE) and/or low fuel warning was calculated by your current mpgs and the amount of fuel you have in the tank?
On my 08 RDX and 06 TSX, the low fuel light comes on when I get about 20-25 miles or less until empty on the MID. There were times when the low fuel light was on when I started my TSX; but, when I drove on the hwy and DTE went up, the low fuel light went off. The low fuel light did not come back on until it got below the 20-25 miles until empty mark. Harder to see this on the RDX since the city/hwy mpgs are so close together. The DTE seems to get a little more accurate as the fuel gets lower.
I’m thinking 40 miles = 40 miles on the DTE at your current driving conditions. I don't want to find out what happens if the DTE gets to zero. You may or may not have the reserve you are expecting.
On my 08 RDX and 06 TSX, the low fuel light comes on when I get about 20-25 miles or less until empty on the MID. There were times when the low fuel light was on when I started my TSX; but, when I drove on the hwy and DTE went up, the low fuel light went off. The low fuel light did not come back on until it got below the 20-25 miles until empty mark. Harder to see this on the RDX since the city/hwy mpgs are so close together. The DTE seems to get a little more accurate as the fuel gets lower.
I’m thinking 40 miles = 40 miles on the DTE at your current driving conditions. I don't want to find out what happens if the DTE gets to zero. You may or may not have the reserve you are expecting.
#13
Racer
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I’ve always thought the Distance Till Empty (DTE) and/or low fuel warning was calculated by your current mpgs and the amount of fuel you have in the tank? .........................
I’m thinking 40 miles = 40 miles on the DTE at your current driving conditions. I don't want to find out what happens if the DTE gets to zero. You may or may not have the reserve you are expecting.
I’m thinking 40 miles = 40 miles on the DTE at your current driving conditions. I don't want to find out what happens if the DTE gets to zero. You may or may not have the reserve you are expecting.
Regards, Jim
#14
Racer
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I searched through the OM and I can't find any reference to the warning display in the HID, but on page 71 of the OM it says the low fuel INDICATOR comes on when there is about 2.5 gallons of fuel left. The HID warning most likely comes on at the same time.
Regards, Jim
Regards, Jim
#15
Last night, on the display it said I had 25 miles left. I went less then a mile and the fuel light came on the dash and then the range changed to 8 miles. I went to the gas station and only put in $8 and it said I had 107 miles of gas. I cleared the trip meter to 0 and then thought I cleared it on the display. Should I have to clear it on the display to know how many miles of gas I have ?
Kristin
Kristin
#16
mrgold35
Last night, on the display it said I had 25 miles left. I went less then a mile and the fuel light came on the dash and then the range changed to 8 miles. I went to the gas station and only put in $8 and it said I had 107 miles of gas. I cleared the trip meter to 0 and then thought I cleared it on the display. Should I have to clear it on the display to know how many miles of gas I have ?
Kristin
Kristin
When the fuel light comes on, I would rely on the DTE instead of the A or B trip computer mileage to be safe.
#17
Racer
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I have trip "A" set to clear mileage and mpg when I fill up. So trip "A" is always information on the current tank of fuel. Trip "B" is a long term average that I will reset manually once in a while. Range still calculates as Mrgold says. I am not sure what mpg is used in the calculation to start, maybe trip "B" or a historical stored mpg or maybe the last trip "A" mpg.
Regards, Jim
Regards, Jim
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