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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 09:14 AM
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Believe it or not my girlfriend just bought a brand new 2013 Nissan Sentra SL, fully loaded with leather, moonroof, dual zone climate control, keyless access, touchscreen navigation AND rear view camera with all premium features - google connect, bluetooh, ipod, sd, illuminated kickplates, protection package with various extras (rubber mats, cargo nets, body moldings in various places), auto LED headlights, heated seats, 8 speaker BOSE audio that sounds surprisingly good etc. etc. and a beautiful interior for just $21,500!! Granted the engine is only a 130hp 4-banger but it's a beautiful car and gives 30/39 mpg and ridiculously luxurious for what it costs.

It's an odd comparison since the RDX is a different class of vehicle (although I tend to think of it more as a car in the shape of an SUV) but I feel for $18,000 more the RDX should've offered much more in terms of comfort and luxury. Particularly things like the lack of a touchscreen navigation, rain sensing wipers, elimination of SH-AWD are hard to accept at this price level.

I think manufacturers are adding more amenities to vehicle in the non-luxury segment ($20,000-30,000 range) while the luxury vehicles are just asking for more money each year without adding anything of significance and sometimes even cost-cutting (SACRILEGE!).
LOL! As I'm sure you know, knowone is comparing or cross shopping a crappy Sentra with a decent RDX. There is a huge diff between the RDX and the Sentra.. Whatever extra tech the Sentra has as you know, can't make up for the weak unrefined 130hp 4 banger vs the silky smooth 273hp V6 for starters, the seats/interior etc which are much more in terms of comfort and luxury than any Sentra offers.. LOL!

The same could be said of entry level cars that have more technology than a 5 yr old Bentley...

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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 10:08 AM
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2013 RDX AWD w/Tech = $40,315 tow 1500 = V6
2013 Edge Sport AWD 3.5L = $39,800 tow 2000 = V6
2013 Escape Titanium AWD = $36,345 tow 3500 = Ecoboost 4
2013 Santa Fe Sport AWD = 35,920 tow 3500 =Turbo 4
2014 Kia Sorento AWD = $39,700 Tow up 5k V6


Looks like the Sorento wins on towing and available options (5 passenger version)


Nice chioce now that wasn't always available.

Someone has mentions how these would look 5 year from now. All will well if the owner take car of them

I traded a 2010 Equinox off a few weeks ago with 96k miles on it. The dealer thought it was new until he looked at the mileage....

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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 10:41 AM
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2013 RDX AWD w/Tech = $40,315 tow 1500 = V6
2013 Edge Sport AWD 3.5L = $39,800 tow 2000 = V6
2013 Escape Titanium AWD = $36,345 tow 3500 = Ecoboost 4
2013 Santa Fe Sport AWD = 35,920 tow 3500 =Turbo 4
2014 Kia Sorento SXL AWD = $39,700 Tow 3500 = V6

I stand corrected. on the Sorento... The number is 3500 instead of 5k in my previous post

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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 11:16 AM
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I stand corrected. on the Sorento... The number is 3500 instead of 5k in my previous post
It's still quite impressive.

While the towing and cargo capacity are low, they still don't detract from my enjoyment of the vehicle. I LOVE my RDX. Do I wish it had some things it doesn't have? Hellz yeah. But it's still my new baby.
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Old Apr 27, 2013 | 01:56 AM
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I don't tow....so that doesn't bother me. I never did pay attention to the max load weight limit. I never intended on hauling much....or have (5) 200 pounders in the thing.....but, that is a kinda low gross load weight.

I think Acura made the suspension system "lighter" to save weight....thus sacrificing load carrying capability.....plus to get better fuel mileage. Lots of issues come to play here.

I love my RDX! If I want to tow or haul.....I'll get a Ford F250 diesel!!

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Old Apr 27, 2013 | 07:36 PM
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Nothing wrong with the RDX, I think it's a great vehicle for the audience it serves. It's basically a boat which is meant to ferry groceries from the supermarket to your home in the best comfort possible and to transport people on asphalt in a good luxurious cocoon. It does this job very nicely and I guess that is exactly what Acura wanted to target. I just wish Acura would have left this to the MDX and instead continued to create a more fun to drive small sport-ute with a improved Turbo 4 along the lines of the first iteration of this model.

When I test drove the RDX, althought it was quick, it did feel like the boat it is and handling and driving dynamics were extremely subpar. But the driving audience of this vehicle are not the types who care about this sort of thing really so it doesn't pose a problem.

I did test the RDX very hard, as a former amateur motorcycle racer with plenty of racetrack experience that is how I like to drive, I think I scared off the salesman as well LOL! But both Mazda CX-5 and Ford Escape responded really well, the RDX not so well. This echos the findings of numerous test by magazines as well so I think i'm not imagining things

I know it's not a sports car but having driven the previous generation RDX that was very fun to drive I think this generation has done a 360 and become a real boat!

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Old Apr 27, 2013 | 08:15 PM
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Wow, you would make a great test driver for Ladies Home Journal. LMAO at your rendition of the RDX.
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Old Apr 27, 2013 | 09:12 PM
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"This echos the findings of numerous test by magazines as well so I think i'm not imagining things"

I've never read one test drive report that says anything about the RDX driving like a boat or "extremely subpar". Maybe you could provide some example of those "echos".

Acura made a smart business decision to revise the RDX for a larger market. Maybe if you could have convinced more of your racer friends to pop for the 1st Gen they may have sold enough to keep those attributes in the 2nd Gen. It didn't sell, the new one is and IMO it drives similar to the vast majority of CUVs and small SUVs out there. There are a few that drive better but on average it's middle of the pack....not at the bottom as you would like everyone to think. And for what reason is beyond me.
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 09:17 AM
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Maybe if you could have convinced more of your racer friends to pop for the 1st Gen they may have sold enough to keep those attributes in the 2nd Gen. It didn't sell, the new one is and IMO it drives similar to the vast majority of CUVs and small SUVs out there. There are a few that drive better but on average it's middle of the pack....not at the bottom as you would like everyone to think. And for what reason is beyond me.
Middle of the pack is not what Acura should be shooting for here in this very competitive group.

So call less than "Acura" vehicle have caught up and or surpass the RDX. These small SUV's/CUV's are sold by almost every automaker in the market. The CRV is at the top of that sales list followed by Ford escape and Hyundai Santa FE.

The luxury group is struggling to keep up because of leaving money on the table if they aren't competing. Honda CRV sales more than enough to cover Acura misstep, that is fortunate for Acura.

Honda revised the Civic because of comment made by the media; let’s hope enough comment show up to put RDX back into the game. The by the way would be 10k per month sales which should be a very attainable number.

Sales are what count at the end of the day regardless of what any of us think. Sales are what cut Infiniti from 3 car make to two. (G and M)
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DeMAN
Middle of the pack is not what Acura should be shooting for here in this very competitive group.

So call less than "Acura" vehicle have caught up and or surpass the RDX. These small SUV's/CUV's are sold by almost every automaker in the market. The CRV is at the top of that sales list followed by Ford escape and Hyundai Santa FE.

The luxury group is struggling to keep up because of leaving money on the table if they aren't competing. Honda CRV sales more than enough to cover Acura misstep, that is fortunate for Acura.

Honda revised the Civic because of comment made by the media; let’s hope enough comment show up to put RDX back into the game. The by the way would be 10k per month sales which should be a very attainable number.

Sales are what count at the end of the day regardless of what any of us think. Sales are what cut Infiniti from 3 car make to two. (G and M)
Your analysis is way off. Acura is currently refreshing there lineup and the RDX is a hit. If anyone should be worried, it would be Lexus, Audi and Volvo because the RDX is eating into these sales. Lexus RX has a reputation and does have a hybrid which Acura does not offer, but now that Acura has seen success, all they need to do is pay attention to the market and keep up with competive tweaks...that's the big question mark, because in the past Acura/Honda have gone against what the market seems to logically want..so we will see if they make the same mistake in the future.

Yes, the Ford Escapes, Hyundai Santa Fe's and other non-luxury priced brands offer a lot of content and will easily outsell the RDX, but there margins suck and the more content they add, the less profit they get...so Ford and Hyundai would much rather be selling luxury at volume if they could. Also, when you start adding in all the options on the mainstream models, they get up there to be priced at RDX level, and most consumers will probably prefer to have the Acura reliability and brand cachet at that point.
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DeMAN
Middle of the pack is not what Acura should be shooting for here in this very competitive group.

So call less than "Acura" vehicle have caught up and or surpass the RDX. These small SUV's/CUV's are sold by almost every automaker in the market. The CRV is at the top of that sales list followed by Ford escape and Hyundai Santa FE.

The luxury group is struggling to keep up because of leaving money on the table if they aren't competing. Honda CRV sales more than enough to cover Acura misstep, that is fortunate for Acura.

Honda revised the Civic because of comment made by the media; let’s hope enough comment show up to put RDX back into the game. The by the way would be 10k per month sales which should be a very attainable number.

Sales are what count at the end of the day regardless of what any of us think. Sales are what cut Infiniti from 3 car make to two. (G and M)
Blah, blah, blah. You're getting really boring. If tops in sales are the measurement you use to indicate a great vehicle than you must drive a Camry because that is the top seller in it's class. You seem to want to bash the RDX for some reason as it doesn't live up to your expectations. Well, it lives up to about twice as many peoples expectations as did the 1st gen. Acura I'm sure is thrilled at the higher sales numbers. Does it sell as many as others. Yes, it's recent sales have surpassed the Q5, EX, X3, etc and I'm sure a lot of RDX buyers cross shopped those vehicles and, wait for it......chose the RDX.
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Since the beginning of time there have been disagreements between animals and then man. And so it will continue long after we are dust.

Answer questions...with knowledge and experience backing you up and help one another here. The forum is not to prolong battering others to try and prove your "feelings" about a certain subject. Use the best facts you can find first...throw in a little personal experience and let it go. IF you don't like the RDX then don't buy it. 99% of us here bought one and are talking about them to learn more....what's good and what could be better...or how to do something like changing the cabin filter...which I wrote a detailed thread on how to do that...and it was very well received.

Let's play nice. geocord I tend to side with your common sense approach and what you say. DeMAN and you are just going "after each other"....let it go. All that can be said...for real...has been said. Now it's getting personal. Move on. geocord.....don't be pulled in any longer by someone who is way past boring at this point. DeMAN is acting more like...deboy!

DeMAN needs to start a new site that is dedicated to, "why I don't like Acura RDX's!!"

Oh...rsx2rdx....kudos to you too. Common sense writing that makes sense to most on here....but, I'm sure not all. Same as what I write. I've taken my "hits" for sure. That's fine. I adjust and continue...I have a vast background and it helps me help others. If I don't know about a certain subject I don't comment...or, if I'm interested enough, I will research it and throw in something for more thought processing.

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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 02:43 PM
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Blah, blah, blah. You're getting really boring. If tops in sales are the measurement you use to indicate a great vehicle than you must drive a Camry because that is the top seller in it's class. You seem to want to bash the RDX for some reason as it doesn't live up to your expectations. Well, it lives up to about twice as many peoples expectations as did the 1st gen. Acura I'm sure is thrilled at the higher sales numbers. Does it sell as many as others. Yes, it's recent sales have surpassed the Q5, EX, X3, etc and I'm sure a lot of RDX buyers cross shopped those vehicles and, wait for it......chose the RDX.
The X1 takes some of the X3 sales so you can't count that as sales to the RDX. Audi is finally back on solid footing after all but leaving the US because of stuck accelerators. They also make a great product

Camry, Accord, Corolla, Civic are all perceived as reliable and thus the reason they have led in sales. The Ford fusion has moved into that group because of its looks. People buy Cars/CUV/SUV's for all sorts of reasons.

The point I'm making again is the Edge, Santa Fe, Sorento, and others have added equipment, looks, among other things in order to compete. I'm now and will never say that any of these are better or worse than the RDX, but I stated all along they are closer than they were 3 years ago. The RDX just introduced its 2 gen, and should show additional sales because of that. My expectation for Acura is or should be the same as yours; make a great product and sell enough to convince Honda that it’s a key player in the US marketplace.

RDX now goes into a market that offers more than when it had the market all to itself. The Accord has really set the bar high for the next gen TL/TLX. They have to nail it or else.... I hope to be buying a new TL/TLX when they are release. This model doesn't anything for me.

You equip Q5, RX, X3, and the SRX the same as the RDX, the RDX becomes a bargain. I can say the same for the New 2014 Sorento Limited. That alone should also help RDX sales.

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Since the beginning of time there have been disagreements between animals and then man. And so it will continue long after we are dust.

Answer questions...with knowledge and experience backing you up and help one another here. The forum is not to prolong battering others to try and prove your "feelings" about a certain subject. Use the best facts you can find first...throw in a little personal experience and let it go. IF you don't like the RDX then don't buy it. 99% of us here bought one and are talking about them to learn more....what's good and what could be better...or how to do something like changing the cabin filter...which I wrote a detailed thread on how to do that...and it was very well received.

Let's play nice. geocord I tend to side with your common sense approach and what you say. DeMAN and you are just going "after each other"....let it go. All that can be said...for real...has been said. Now it's getting personal. Move on. geocord.....don't be pulled in any longer by someone who is way past boring at this point. DeMAN is acting more like...deboy!

DeMAN needs to start a new site that is dedicated to, "why I don't like Acura RDX's!!"

Oh...rsx2rdx....kudos to you too. Common sense writing that makes sense to most on here....but, I'm sure not all. Same as what I write. I've taken my "hits" for sure. That's fine. I adjust and continue...I have a vast background and it helps me help others. If I don't know about a certain subject I don't comment...or, if I'm interested enough, I will research it and throw in something for more thought processing.

Time settles more arguments than anything... Also being opened to others opinion...

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Old May 10, 2013 | 10:31 PM
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I might buy a rdx tomorrow and I have tested a Rex cars along the way.

2014 cx5 gt tech: drives really well. Driver side mirror shakes at hwy speeds. Navi lags like a mofo to touch screen commands. Noisy as hell. Nice trunk size. 30k otd.

2013 Santa Fe sport 2.0t: drives like crap. Steering feel sucks and has a huge dead spot on center. Rear ac vents are nice. No hid's. Sliding and reclining seats are awesome. Fog lights feel like they are clipped on and have a lot of give when you finger push them. Giganormous trunk! 31.5k otd.

2013 rdx tech: very quiet interior. Trunk is smallest of the bunch. Easiest to read nav. No blind spot sensor. Power trunk lid. Most comfortable to us of the bunch. Wife liked the styling the best. Power passenger seats. Memory driver seats. 35.7k otd.

Yes it's more expensive but for the reliability of the car and the fact that this dealer gives unlimited power train warranty we were willing to pay the extra 4-5k. We looked at a q5 (39k), x3 (also 39k), and Subaru (now THAT is a cheap interior). Didn't consider an x1 cus it's about as big as our Mazda3.

As far as driving dynamics it's more than fine for what the car is, a small SUV. I don't want my SUV to drive like my old rx7 or my Audi s4. They were Great on turns but not very comfortable for the long drives.

I think the rdx is a good value for what it offers. All other lux brands will be priced higher when optioned out similarly (at least considering the options that me and the wife find important). Going the economy route doesn't really save that much either.
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Old May 11, 2013 | 12:26 PM
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I might buy a rdx tomorrow and I have tested a Rex cars along the way.

2014 cx5 gt tech: drives really well. Driver side mirror shakes at hwy speeds. Navi lags like a mofo to touch screen commands. Noisy as hell. Nice trunk size. 30k otd.

2013 Santa Fe sport 2.0t: drives like crap. Steering feel sucks and has a huge dead spot on center. Rear ac vents are nice. No hid's. Sliding and reclining seats are awesome. Fog lights feel like they are clipped on and have a lot of give when you finger push them. Giganormous trunk! 31.5k otd.

2013 rdx tech: very quiet interior. Trunk is smallest of the bunch. Easiest to read nav. No blind spot sensor. Power trunk lid. Most comfortable to us of the bunch. Wife liked the styling the best. Power passenger seats. Memory driver seats. 35.7k otd.

Yes it's more expensive but for the reliability of the car and the fact that this dealer gives unlimited power train warranty we were willing to pay the extra 4-5k. We looked at a q5 (39k), x3 (also 39k), and Subaru (now THAT is a cheap interior). Didn't consider an x1 cus it's about as big as our Mazda3.

As far as driving dynamics it's more than fine for what the car is, a small SUV. I don't want my SUV to drive like my old rx7 or my Audi s4. They were Great on turns but not very comfortable for the long drives.

I think the rdx is a good value for what it offers. All other lux brands will be priced higher when optioned out similarly (at least considering the options that me and the wife find important). Going the economy route doesn't really save that much either.
This is the way it is done. You drive you compare and you research and you decide what works for you. Kind of like picking a girl friend
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Old May 11, 2013 | 06:09 PM
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Yes it's more expensive but for the reliability of the car and the fact that this dealer gives unlimited power train warranty we were willing to pay the extra 4-5k.
Wow I would be willing to take that deal... Hopefully for you that dealer stays around or you are not relocated away from them. You would be SOL.
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Old May 11, 2013 | 06:33 PM
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Smart sales ploy also when chances are that you are out of it in 50-60k miles as most are with mid-lux to luxury vehicles
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Old May 12, 2013 | 05:38 AM
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Smart sales ploy also when chances are that you are out of it in 50-60k miles as most are with mid-lux to luxury vehicles
It is a smart sales angle. The car can be serviced at any location as long as I call ahead to the dealer first and get approval. Chances are that we will never use it and most people will not own the car that long or have any major problems with it, but it's there as long as I keep up with regular maintenance and can be done at any certified car repair shop. It is also non transferable.

BTW, I'm the proud owner of a new white RDX tech! Actually I'm also already second guessing myself as well but I think that is normal. I do that with video cards, my old used cars, and almost any large purchase. Is like I could have saved 5k by going cx5 and maybe I could have lived without the lift gate, crappy nav, shaky mirror, and minimal sound insulation... Then I think you know, last car I bought new I still have (2006 Mazda3) and will plan to still keep until we need something bigger than the rdx so why nor enjoy life a little

BTW, the MDX was nice, but HUGE! I think I have to slowly get my wife used to driving bigger cars. She is hesitant to drive the rdx already because of its elevation.
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Old May 16, 2013 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Dimcorner
I might buy a rdx tomorrow and I have tested a Rex cars along the way.

2014 cx5 gt tech: drives really well. Driver side mirror shakes at hwy speeds. Navi lags like a mofo to touch screen commands. Noisy as hell. Nice trunk size. 30k otd.

2013 Santa Fe sport 2.0t: drives like crap. Steering feel sucks and has a huge dead spot on center. Rear ac vents are nice. No hid's. Sliding and reclining seats are awesome. Fog lights feel like they are clipped on and have a lot of give when you finger push them. Giganormous trunk! 31.5k otd.

2013 rdx tech: very quiet interior. Trunk is smallest of the bunch. Easiest to read nav. No blind spot sensor. Power trunk lid. Most comfortable to us of the bunch. Wife liked the styling the best. Power passenger seats. Memory driver seats. 35.7k otd.

Yes it's more expensive but for the reliability of the car and the fact that this dealer gives unlimited power train warranty we were willing to pay the extra 4-5k. We looked at a q5 (39k), x3 (also 39k), and Subaru (now THAT is a cheap interior). Didn't consider an x1 cus it's about as big as our Mazda3.

As far as driving dynamics it's more than fine for what the car is, a small SUV. I don't want my SUV to drive like my old rx7 or my Audi s4. They were Great on turns but not very comfortable for the long drives.

I think the rdx is a good value for what it offers. All other lux brands will be priced higher when optioned out similarly (at least considering the options that me and the wife find important). Going the economy route doesn't really save that much either.

I compared the Venza, CRV, RAV4 and pretty much came to the conclusion that I'll pay $3-$5K more for the Acura with V6, leather, memory seat, power seat for passenger. So I paid $35k out the door for the base model and I am happy with it, especially the highway miles.

Yes the trunk is small. I am reminded of that every time I load my fishing gears and coolers.
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Old May 16, 2013 | 06:17 PM
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This is a picture I took out of a 2013 G37. With only 15k miles, it's interior was already falling apart. I use to own multiple Infiniti, and Nissan products and their products have gone to crap and not near as reliable as Acura/Honda.

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Old May 18, 2013 | 11:18 PM
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This is a picture I took out of a 2013 G37. With only 15k miles, it's interior was already falling apart. I use to own multiple Infiniti, and Nissan products and their products have gone to crap and not near as reliable as Acura/Honda.
Not a fan of Infiniti, and Nissan products bot this could happen in any caror SUV. Its still under warranty and should be replaced.
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Old May 20, 2013 | 07:43 PM
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""This echos the findings of numerous test by magazines as well so I think i'm not imagining things"

I've never read one test drive report that says anything about the RDX driving like a boat or "extremely subpar". Maybe you could provide some example of those "echos"."

Read it and weep http://www.autos.ca/car-comparisons/...rossover-suvs/

Depending upon how you slice it and what your priorities are, the RDX is not the best in its class. What is it is though, is is though, is an undeniable value in its class.

I am a car guy as much as anyone, but I bought this for my wife who used to think her Saturn SL1 was an acceptible form of transport, and if it was not for me she would probable still be driving it now......

The RDX is a supremly comfortable grocery getter and highway crusier. It also has excellent interior room for four and their all their junk. Throw in good fual economy and a price thousands lower than other competitors and the promise of above average reliabilty and retained value then IMHO you have a car worthy of my hard earned $$$.

Is it the best in its class? Probably not. Is it the best value for my needs? Yes, that is whay it is in my driveway. When my wife picks up the kids frm the school she takes the RDX. When we go for lunch in the hills on a sunny Fridat we tay my MX-5. You pay your money and you make your choices.
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Old May 21, 2013 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by yobbo
""This echos the findings of numerous test by magazines as well so I think i'm not imagining things"

I've never read one test drive report that says anything about the RDX driving like a boat or "extremely subpar". Maybe you could provide some example of those "echos"."

Read it and weep http://www.autos.ca/car-comparisons/...rossover-suvs/

Depending upon how you slice it and what your priorities are, the RDX is not the best in its class. What is it is though, is is though, is an undeniable value in its class.

I am a car guy as much as anyone, but I bought this for my wife who used to think her Saturn SL1 was an acceptible form of transport, and if it was not for me she would probable still be driving it now......

The RDX is a supremly comfortable grocery getter and highway crusier. It also has excellent interior room for four and their all their junk. Throw in good fual economy and a price thousands lower than other competitors and the promise of above average reliabilty and retained value then IMHO you have a car worthy of my hard earned $$$.

Is it the best in its class? Probably not. Is it the best value for my needs? Yes, that is whay it is in my driveway. When my wife picks up the kids frm the school she takes the RDX. When we go for lunch in the hills on a sunny Fridat we tay my MX-5. You pay your money and you make your choices.
Actually, I did read that review before. But it was so far off from any other review that I've read that I thought it was funny. It was very clear that the main thing that the reviewers were looking for was that "German" drive and the RDX admittedly doesn't have that drive. Their comments about the drivetrain were pretty silly though. I don't think anybody on this forum has ever said that the RDX is the best driving in the class or even the best in class. However, most consider it a great value in the class and good at most things including reliability, low maint. cost and resale value. All of which the reviewers don't take into consideration for thier rankings but most actual buyers do.
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