FWD vs. AWD
11-13-2015, 12:44 PM
#81
I do agree that winter tires should be installed in the winter. I however do not agree that all season tires have no purpose. Winter tires wear out ridiculously fast in the summer, but summer tires also wear out fast in the summer. This is where all seasons come in. My personal preference is to go winter in winter and all season in the summer.
I want to note that this will be the first year for me in ever to have winter tires. I have always always had all season tires and never had issues at all thankfully. This time I am going to install a set of michelin x-ice 2 tires. Brand new and can't wait to see what it is like! But it just absolutely sucks, we have had no snow yet, nothing, literally can still see grass here, that is absurd!! I am worried about installing too early and having them wear stupid fast.
I want to note that this will be the first year for me in ever to have winter tires. I have always always had all season tires and never had issues at all thankfully. This time I am going to install a set of michelin x-ice 2 tires. Brand new and can't wait to see what it is like! But it just absolutely sucks, we have had no snow yet, nothing, literally can still see grass here, that is absurd!! I am worried about installing too early and having them wear stupid fast.
11-13-2015, 02:44 PM
#82
Heat wears out tires. Summer tires have sticky compounds and winter tires have soft compounds. An all-season tire is a compromise and perfectly fine for most drivers during the non-snowy seasons. I generally run all-seasons as well (Conti DWS)for the same reason - while a summer tire may handle better, I don't really need that for my daily driving and all-seasons are cheaper as well - but - the winters go on around US Thanksgiving.
11-13-2015, 02:49 PM
#83
11-13-2015, 07:52 PM
#84
11-16-2015, 12:23 PM
#85
Yeah it is absolutely the heat. It is those soft compounds that make a winter tire a winter tire. I can understand that you would want summer tires in a high performance car, but it doesn't make any sense to put them in 98% of passenger cars. Why would I pay more for a tire that would wear out quicker and designed for a use that I don't have.
Oh my.... Did I start another debate?
11-16-2015, 01:27 PM
#86
Incoming debates lol. I expect ceb very soon.
11-16-2015, 01:54 PM
#87
Tire Discounters used to inflate tires with nitrogen, not sure if they still do (they used to use green valve caps). In my experience the tires I bought from them held a more consistent pressure level that my wife's tires, which I just inflate at home. Hers were installed professionally so I don't think there was a bad bead or anything. Anyway that's my experience.
Where I live (OH) snow tires really aren't necessary. Just a good set of all seasons will do the job no problem, it's not the northeast lol. It's mostly about how you drive in the snow. AWD isn't necessary here either, but it helps obviously. Of course then there is always the over confident SUV driver who thinks they can go anywhere, and they end up on their roof.
Where I live (OH) snow tires really aren't necessary. Just a good set of all seasons will do the job no problem, it's not the northeast lol. It's mostly about how you drive in the snow. AWD isn't necessary here either, but it helps obviously. Of course then there is always the over confident SUV driver who thinks they can go anywhere, and they end up on their roof.
Last edited by RedRyder; 11-16-2015 at 02:05 PM.
11-16-2015, 03:47 PM
#88
Tire Discounters used to inflate tires with nitrogen, not sure if they still do (they used to use green valve caps). In my experience the tires I bought from them held a more consistent pressure level that my wife's tires, which I just inflate at home. Hers were installed professionally so I don't think there was a bad bead or anything. Anyway that's my experience.
Where I live (OH) snow tires really aren't necessary. Just a good set of all seasons will do the job no problem, it's not the northeast lol. It's mostly about how you drive in the snow. AWD isn't necessary here either, but it helps obviously. Of course then there is always the over confident SUV driver who thinks they can go anywhere, and they end up on their roof.
Where I live (OH) snow tires really aren't necessary. Just a good set of all seasons will do the job no problem, it's not the northeast lol. It's mostly about how you drive in the snow. AWD isn't necessary here either, but it helps obviously. Of course then there is always the over confident SUV driver who thinks they can go anywhere, and they end up on their roof.
I personally see it as a sales gimmick. The way I look at it, is if you have less than ideal seal on the tires you are more likely to lose more air with the nitrogen vs the the atmospheric air because the hydrogen atoms are the smallest gas atom. But in ideal conditions, nitrogen has a small bonus. If it is offered for free at the tire shop, I won't say no.
I wonder why they don't fill tires with some form of inert noble gas, like xenon or argon...etc?
11-16-2015, 04:26 PM
#90
The air you breathe is approximately 78% Nitrogen. While I realize that ~22% of other gases would have an effect on the overall deflation and inflation of the tire due to temperature, I don't imagine it is severe enough to do anything and paying extra for Nitorgen seems pointless to me. Even if I had a performance car, I still would not fill it with nitrogen. But obviously I have not looked up any independent studies so maybe I am wrong.
Incoming debates lol. I expect ceb very soon.
Incoming debates lol. I expect ceb very soon.
It is better to buy a decent tire gauge
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11-16-2015, 08:00 PM
#92
Yes you did.
You hit the nail right on the head. Paying extra for Nitrogen is useless.
It is better to buy a decent tire gauge
You hit the nail right on the head. Paying extra for Nitrogen is useless.
It is better to buy a decent tire gauge
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