Transmission Class Action Settlement Website - Transmission Letter
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Transmission Settlement terms site
WWW.HONDATRANSMISSIONSETTLEMENT.COM
Law firm handling case gave me* link to this site. Asked that we refer to it first and see what questions remain.
I've only given it a once over, it sounds like pure crap. 109,000 miles or 93 months. As ones who have recieved the letter by mail of the settlement notice had posted.
Surely some mods and others can dissect this.
Time is of the essense, look at the opt out dates of Dec 11th.
*I'm just an Azine board member, i don't have any more answers then you do.
Law firm handling case gave me* link to this site. Asked that we refer to it first and see what questions remain.
I've only given it a once over, it sounds like pure crap. 109,000 miles or 93 months. As ones who have recieved the letter by mail of the settlement notice had posted.
Surely some mods and others can dissect this.
Time is of the essense, look at the opt out dates of Dec 11th.
*I'm just an Azine board member, i don't have any more answers then you do.
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Q. I asked them: "To our knowledge, Honda never has fixed the faulty transmissions design. So in the event of a tranny failure, will Honda simply put the same "new" failed transmission in?"
Answer: "HONDA/ACURA PROVIDED EXTENSIVE EMPIRICAL DATA DEMONSTRATING THAT IT HAS SOLVED THE PROBLEMS WITH THE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION IN THE CLASS VEHICLES. AN INDEPENDENT MEDIATOR, WHO IS A RETIRED JUSTICE OF THE CALIFORNIA COURT OF APPEALS, MEDIATED OVER THE SETTLEMENT, INCLUDING HONDA/ACURA'S EFFORTS TO RESOLVE THE TRANSMISSION PROBLEMS, AND HE FOUND THE SETTLEMENT TO BE FAIR AND REASONABLE."
Websters defines empirical as: 1 : originating in or based on observation or experience <empirical data>
At least I hope they don't mean it as Websters #2:
relying on experience or observation alone often without due regard for system and theory <an empirical basis for the theory>
Answer: "HONDA/ACURA PROVIDED EXTENSIVE EMPIRICAL DATA DEMONSTRATING THAT IT HAS SOLVED THE PROBLEMS WITH THE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION IN THE CLASS VEHICLES. AN INDEPENDENT MEDIATOR, WHO IS A RETIRED JUSTICE OF THE CALIFORNIA COURT OF APPEALS, MEDIATED OVER THE SETTLEMENT, INCLUDING HONDA/ACURA'S EFFORTS TO RESOLVE THE TRANSMISSION PROBLEMS, AND HE FOUND THE SETTLEMENT TO BE FAIR AND REASONABLE."
Websters defines empirical as: 1 : originating in or based on observation or experience <empirical data>
At least I hope they don't mean it as Websters #2:
relying on experience or observation alone often without due regard for system and theory <an empirical basis for the theory>
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They stated the mediator
I'd have rather had a mechanic. This guy might not been under a car or changed his own oil in his life.
Originally Posted by NighthawkBlue
IS A RETIRED JUSTICE OF THE CALIFORNIA COURT OF APPEALS
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OK let me get this straight my car was bought on 3-31-02 and if you add 7 years to that it brings it out to 3-31-09. Now add 9 months to that and you get 12-31-09.yay I calculate that I drive 16K miles a year so in 3 years my car will have approximately 96K miles on it
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Transmission Letter?
Hey i forgot to mention, i rec'd a letter from Honda and some attny's about the Transmission issue for the 01-02 CL/TL, the honda odessey, accord and prelude... makes me regret getting rid of it...
but it talks about a class action lawsuit... i might try to scan it later to show you guys
but it talks about a class action lawsuit... i might try to scan it later to show you guys
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Originally Posted by 609CLTYPES
Hey i forgot to mention, i rec'd a letter from Honda and some attny's about the Transmission issue for the 01-02 CL/TL, the honda odessey, accord and prelude... makes me regret getting rid of it...
but it talks about a class action lawsuit... i might try to scan it later to show you guys
but it talks about a class action lawsuit... i might try to scan it later to show you guys
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Originally Posted by 609CLTYPES
too bad we got rid of our Cl's
Whoopee! Acura/Honda.
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do we already have this extended warrenty our do we have to go down to acura an apply for it there an show them the letter....in the letter it says if you expreience a down shifting problem or anything else with the tranny when driving call youre local acura for a check up...i do feel the car is down shifting by itself when ever i let go of the gas..are they suppose to give us a new tranny or just fix it up an get us out..this is the 2nd tranny from acura i gotton..any 1 know how to go about this?
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Personaly i think that they should just replace all of them with completely newly redesinged ones right now and then give us compensation for them. haha, but thats just me.
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Originally Posted by ljmushock
what i wanna know is... if you dont own a CL anymore... what kind of life do you have poking around in a CL forum.
Maybe if you participated more in the forum since joining you'd understand this
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2nd Q. I asked: To date, many Honda/Acura dealerships have been replacing the faulty transmission above current 100K warranty miles, such as 140K, knowing that it was Honda who initiated the faulty transmission. Known as a "goodwill" replacement.
If the proposed settlement of Dec 28th 2006 takes place, that being 109K or 93 month limits whichever comes first, will Honda insist that dealerships no longer perform goodwill replacements free of charge for cars over the settlement 109K-93 month warranty specs?
Answer: (English version: "Completely up to Honda.")
"AS COUNSEL FOR THE SETTLEMENT CLASS, WE CANNOT SPEAK FOR ANY FUTURE ACTIONS THAT HONDA MAY OR MAY NOT TAKE. HOW HONDA ELECTS TO TREAT MALFUNCTIONING TRANSMISSIONS OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE CLASS MEMBERS IS SOLELY HONDA'S DISCRETON, AND WE CANNOT SPECULATE SA TO WHAT HONDA AND/OR ITS INDEPENDENT DEALERS WILL DO."
If the proposed settlement of Dec 28th 2006 takes place, that being 109K or 93 month limits whichever comes first, will Honda insist that dealerships no longer perform goodwill replacements free of charge for cars over the settlement 109K-93 month warranty specs?
Answer: (English version: "Completely up to Honda.")
"AS COUNSEL FOR THE SETTLEMENT CLASS, WE CANNOT SPEAK FOR ANY FUTURE ACTIONS THAT HONDA MAY OR MAY NOT TAKE. HOW HONDA ELECTS TO TREAT MALFUNCTIONING TRANSMISSIONS OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE CLASS MEMBERS IS SOLELY HONDA'S DISCRETON, AND WE CANNOT SPECULATE SA TO WHAT HONDA AND/OR ITS INDEPENDENT DEALERS WILL DO."
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Originally Posted by Dan
Unless you are one of the attorneys or a class rep, all you would be getting is another 9months/9,000 miles added to 7yr/100,000 extended warranty.
Whoopee! Acura/Honda.
Whoopee! Acura/Honda.
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Originally Posted by GreenMachine
This is pure fucking garbage. Acura of America should have a lifetime warranty on all their jolopy transmissions. No argument.
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says "hello to my TLX".
Acura just couldn't step up and cover for their sorry trannies, could they? as long as i have their shitty transmission in my running car, i want it to be warrantied.
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For those that say 9 months/9,000 miles is nothing, take it for whats it worth..most other companies just leave u out to dry. If you can mention to me an auto manufacturer that not only extended their powertrain warranty, but then re-extended it for a cars that have been out of production of about 3 years, or has even gone to any extent for this kind of customer care please let me know and that'll be my next purchase..but for now its Honda/Acura all the way.
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Originally Posted by Brandi
I got this letter & I am so confused!! I had to replace my transmission not long ago..
The case things is that honda is/may extend warrenty to 93K miles and take no fault for anything.
The problem is a tranny problem will also wreck other parts of the car, esp motor mounts and cracked headers.
#29
Thats Some Sh-- If you paid to have it fixed prior to Aug 21 2006 you get nothing. I say we all stand together and reject this settlement its garbage. They got me for 2 That I fully paid for. One at 65,000 and I was out of warranty and the second at 108,000 and I was out of the warranty again.
All that and we get nothing but these lawyers get paid.
All that and we get nothing but these lawyers get paid.
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For those that say 9 months/9,000 miles is nothing, take it for whats it worth..most other companies just leave u out to dry. If you can mention to me an auto manufacturer that not only extended their powertrain warranty, but then re-extended it for a cars that have been out of production of about 3 years, or has even gone to any extent for this kind of customer care please let me know and that'll be my next purchase..but for now its Honda/Acura all the way.
I think your forgetting the about dangerous situations these "Faulty" transmissions put us in. Imagine just cruising on the pkwy at about 50 mph and your car just locks the front wheels without any warning! This is not compensation for me. When I had my maxima the tranny died and the car simply rolled to a stop. From what I seen anyway that is normal and no where near as much as a hazard. I could give you plenty of examples of cars with Trannies that go bad and dont put you in the same type of danger, especially under 100k (unless yours has seen some serious abuse). I will be selling this car but for now I have to deal with it. The only way Acura will satisfy me is by fixing the "Flaw"
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Originally Posted by artbran
The 00' TL that we have is covered. I wonder what they are going to do about it in the end... I'll have to read and digest what they have written here.
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Originally Posted by hemhaw
That's just dumb. No maufacture offers a "lifetime" warranty.
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Originally Posted by Papa_Sean
I think your forgetting the about dangerous situations these "Faulty" transmissions put us in. Imagine just cruising on the pkwy at about 50 mph and your car just locks the front wheels without any warning! This is not compensation for me. When I had my maxima the tranny died and the car simply rolled to a stop. From what I seen anyway that is normal and no where near as much as a hazard. I could give you plenty of examples of cars with Trannies that go bad and dont put you in the same type of danger, especially under 100k (unless yours has seen some serious abuse). I will be selling this car but for now I have to deal with it. The only way Acura will satisfy me is by fixing the "Flaw"
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Originally Posted by Dan
Unless you are one of the attorneys or a class rep, all you would be getting is another 9months/9,000 miles added to 7yr/100,000 extended warranty.
Whoopee! Acura/Honda.
Whoopee! Acura/Honda.
That is right, doing nothing means you agree to sell your right for this additional 9 months/9K mile warranty extension.
For those who are >109K miles, there is nothing lost by opt-out, just send a letter to the address provided in the letter.
Honda benefits from a settlement big time. The company is getting off huge potential warranty liability off its balance sheet from a faulty transmission design that is used for its high sales volumn models.
IMHO, law firms purposely ask for a small enough warranty extension so Honda has the incentitive to settle out of court. But big enough PR to smear Honda's reliability reputation.
A win for Honda, a win for lawyers, owners get a laughable benefit.
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got nothin yet...........im actuallly trying to kill the automatic tranny...i bought a 'certified" CL with 30 k miles...got that 100 K warrenty under Acura certified bulllsh_t. im gunna drop the tranny right b4 the end of the warrenty....u know...drain the fluid and refill it one it burns out..?>? I'll get a new one then!
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The entire “class action suite” is scam, IMHO.
It is going to cost Honda-Acura anywhere from $90 million to $180 million (different assessments). Whoever will still have car model that is listed in the suite will benefit by getting 9 months/9000 miles of additional warranty (BTW, very often Acura does offer additional help even after 100K miles), and lawyers will rake 9% of either $90 million or $180 million. Sweet deal for lawyers!
Please keep in mind that if this deal goes through, nobody will have Acura assistance after 9 months/9000 miles have expired. Do search in our forum and find how many people had their trannys replaced way after 100K miles at just labor cost. Quite few, as I recall. So, who is real beneficiary here?
It is going to cost Honda-Acura anywhere from $90 million to $180 million (different assessments). Whoever will still have car model that is listed in the suite will benefit by getting 9 months/9000 miles of additional warranty (BTW, very often Acura does offer additional help even after 100K miles), and lawyers will rake 9% of either $90 million or $180 million. Sweet deal for lawyers!
Please keep in mind that if this deal goes through, nobody will have Acura assistance after 9 months/9000 miles have expired. Do search in our forum and find how many people had their trannys replaced way after 100K miles at just labor cost. Quite few, as I recall. So, who is real beneficiary here?
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Originally Posted by GreenMachine
This is pure fucking garbage. Acura of America should have a lifetime warranty on all their jolopy transmissions. No argument.
OK - now the TL costs $64k...
There is no such thing as a lifetime warranty - unless you want to double or triple the price of the item.
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What would be the normal lifespan of a transmission in a similar car. That should be the critiria for the extension in my opinion. I know at this point it doesnt matter, just a thought.
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Originally Posted by hoangtanle
i got mines replaced about 4 months ago. does that mean they gave me a tranny that has the tranny problem fixed or did they just gave me a tranny that will defect again? and when was this settlement in court happen?