Ok here is story.....Just bought an 01 CL-S aprox. 3mo ago. At time of sale car pulled extremely hard to the right. (Extremely hard = if I let go of the wheel at 20mph in a residential area I am in someone's front yard/sidewalk with two house. At 70mph you do not let go of the wheel for one second if you want to maintain your lane. Must fight to keep car straight. Dealership recognized this along with other issues and put them on what they call a "We Owe". Basically they sale me the car with the understanding that the "We Owe" will be fixed.

Trip 1. One wk after purchase. Dealership says they fixed the problem and give me a slip with this info on it and said yes it was out of line but everything is good now.

Front: Left Front: Right

Acutal Before Specified Range Actual Before Specified Range

0.4 0.4 -1.0 1.0 Camber 0.1 0.1 -1.0 1
2.6 2.6 1.8 3.8 Caster 2.2 2.2 1.8 3.8
0.06 -0.04 -0.08 -0.08 Toe 0.06 -0.05 -0.08 0.08


Front

Actual Before Specified Range

Cross Camber 0.2 0.3
Cross Caster 0.4 0.4
Total Toe 0.11 -0.08 -0.16 0.16



Rear: Left Rear: Right

Actual Before Specified Range Actual Before Speficied Range

-0.5 -0.6 -1.0 0.0 Camber 0.0 -0.1 -1.0 0.0
0.10 -0.49 0.0 0.16 Toe 0.10 0.57 0.0 0.16



Rear

Actual Before Specified Range

Cross Camber -0.5 -0.5
Total Toe 0.20 0.08 0.00 0.32
Thrust Angle 0.00 -0.53


Tried to post actuall page but don't know how. So I hand tpyed the above but it keeps getting a little out of wake. This is all Greek to me. Maybe someone on here can read this and make sense of it. Needless to say when I drove the car home it was not fixed. To be fair it feels like they only corrected 10% of the problem. So car is still pulling to the right.

Trip 2. Scheduled apt. with dealership to fix alligment. They keep the car for the day and tell me it is within specs. Appears they did nothing as car is the same.

Trip 3. Dealership states that problem is still there and that car was lowered and that a cambering kit will and new alligment will be needed to fix the problem. Don't know if kit was put on or alligment was done, but car is still pulling the same.

Trip 4. Dealership still agrees that there is a problem and say the it may be the tires. (local tire shop had the privilage of fixing a leak and made the comment that the car is definetely out of alligment and that the tires are showing hard wear on the outside edges and might only last 1.5-2mo.). So tomorrow they are putting on two new tires.

So here is the question. I don't believe that tries are the answer, but at this point I'll try anything. Is there something I should be asking the dealership to look at specificially? Is ther something that a lay man such as myself can look at in hopes of finding the problem? As you call tell I really really enjoy this car and hate to give it back. Any responce will be greatly appreaciated. Thank you.

 

well got the front tires and seems to help but am still holding my breath. While I was at the tire shop I asked them to show me the new cambering kit that was installed like four days ago. They couldn't find it. Now why does this not supprise me. Any ways....and advice would still be welcomed just incase the problem is still there.

 

With your camber and caster where they are at you should not have a pull,generally with those specs and a pull it is tire related.But i would reccomend that the toe angle be set at a total of zero.With toe set at .06 the tires are facing towards ech other at the front, and with a front wheel drive car it gets worse under acceleration.You need positive 0.16 degrees total in the rear (.08 left and .08 right) and a total of zero in the front.
hope that helps