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Guys, i'm going to enclose a dyno from injen on the new accord v6...they just developed an intake from the car and that is what they got the number from (also, note those those are max hp#s):





heres the post from the injen rep on the accord site:

Wow, i think w/an intake the accord v6 may give a cl a run 4 the money, plus, u must rmbr it weighs at least 150-200lbs less than a cl/tl and has a better tranny gearing as well....also, the car dynoed had 18"chrome wheels

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also guys such as scalbert, ericL, and other resident gearheads , whats ur take on the dyno?

gavriil

In a drafty estimate, these numbers bring the Accord to CLS territory on the crank. From 240HP to 260HP.

SiGGy

wow, with 18" chrome wheels too. That car is pretty impressive. Didn't someone post a 1/4 mile time of a mid/low 14 for it also?

lol, now we all really do have glorified Accords

Nashua_Night_Hawk

Even more..... are those the stick or Auto? if Auto... 180 lbft is even higher than the stock CLS torque of 175 lbft

But damm it 20 lbft of torque all across the range is never heard of from a CAI

Have a custom high flow headers and you are doing 225-235 WHP easy!

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nah this is an automatic, the 6speed does not come out till 2/03

Black CL-S 4-Life

Say it ain't so...

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Heres a video of the run as well:

Dyno run video

jimcol711

you know, lets think about this for a second.....when coming up with the design for this 2003 accord, honda had to deside how much power to give this car...so they said, ok 240 hp....now, after seeing that stock dyno....i dunno, thats some high numbers there...thats almost CL-S territory on that dyno, and thats only 1 dyno....but stilll....maybe the new accords simply just have the same motor as the CL-S motor and honda is claiming it to be less power..it would be cheaper to do that since the CL-S motor is already built and mass-produced....and its a damn good engine, why not just use that for the accord and publish slightly lower numbers so as not to upset the acura people. im no expert, but that dyno video its basically indistinguishable between a CL-S engine and this new accord...that motor looks like it has the EXACT same motor as the CL-S, the only differnece on the intake was another bend, which is due to the exterior shape of the fender, hood and other underhood components not related to the engine itself. i think its entirely possible that the new accord has the same motor as the CL-S, with the exception of the new exhaust manifolds that apparently dont allow for headers, its probably the same block, heads, intake manifold system, cams, crank, everything.....nissan already is pulling a fast one like this on maxima owners...the new altima that has "supposedly" 15 less hp is dynoing the EXACT same as a maxima with the "supposedly" extra 15 hp. it sounds like its all marketing to me. its cheaper for honda to use the CL-S motor than just re-design another one that does exactly 240 hp....maybe the new exhaust on the accord is designed to de-tune the CL-S motor a bit and bring it down to something close to 240 but from the look and sound of this, that accord most likely has at LEAST 250 at the crank as it is highly likely that it is simply nothing more than the CL-S / TL-S motor with a different exhaust

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well jim, supposedly the accord gets an extra 10hp and 7+lb from premium gas...hmm u maybe rite abt the exhaust as well, the accord may get good gains from a new exhaust

Nashua_Night_Hawk

but it is 3.0 L and the CLS has 3.2L

RDX

Can't wait to see the dyno on the 6speed, with 5%-10% less tranny lost.

I have a feeling that it can beat the CL-S .

LegendC

Ummm....Im surpised that no one noticed that HP and Torque do not meet at the proper place on the graph. I think this dyno is BS. Both graphs should have the convergance at the around 5252 RPM, the graph with mods is just "shifted" to the right.

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well i inquired abt the type of fuel grade used and heres their response (from injen):

typeR

acctually the accord recomends regular unleaded that was one of its big draws...but...later a tech said ..."but if you goto premium then you'll get 10/10" ...and last question...i dont know and am not interested enough to look but do the new accords redline at 7K????id be surprised

sidemarker

until i see a dyno run from a person who bought the car and not a dyno from a company i am not going to believe it....

sidemarker

SteVTEC

They'll only converge at 5252 rpm if both the horsepower and torque scales are the same. On this one, they're not. But if you look very closely, you can see that the engine is making rougly 180 whp / 180 wtq at the 5252rpm mark.

More here...

http://www.v6accord.com/forums/showt...threadid=17420

CivicEx1998

The Accord has 3.0 and the Cl is 3.2, how are they the same engine.

Look at the dyno again, the scale for HP and TQ are different, so they wont cross at 5252.

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the redline on the 03 v6 accord is 6800rpm (automatic- i don't know if the 6speed is diff.)

tuRb0mikEy

why is ur tag still stevtec when u owned one honda in ur life and ended up totaling it.

Kkranghkar

Every time there's a dyno, somebody posts this....

The two curves on a dyno intersect at RPM = 5252 if and only if the TORQUE and HP vertical axes are THE SAME...

The reason is that HP = (Torque * RPM / 5252). Torque is always EQUAL to HP at 5252 rpm, but this doesn't mean they'll be in the same place on the graph if the scales are different.

If you will look at the graph, you'll see that the HP scale on the left side doesn't match up with the torque scale on the right side.

If you look carefully at around 5252 RPM on that graph, you will see that both HP and Torque are around 168-169 for the baseline graph, and around 180ish for the Intake graph.....


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Well someone beat me to it, but hopefully my wordy explanation wasn't wasted and someone will learn something