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Old 02-20-2008, 10:45 PM
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New Suspension, Mountain Run, VIDEO

Not sure if this belongs here or in the suspension forum but mods can move it if necessary.

Just installed my eibach sportline springs from a 4 cylinder accord coupled with tokico illumina 5-way adjustable shocks.

Shocks are on the softest setting (1 out of 5) because I don't have the adjuster. Also have a 23 mm eibach rear sway bar and of course the eibach sportlines. Im using 235/40/18 falken tires

Video makes it look really slow but we're at about 60-65mph each turn at the top of 2nd gear, notice the VTEC spam. Cars all stock except intake resonator removal ahaha

Enjoy http://youtube.com/watch?v=C3wyUdHTQlk
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this video is MUCH better.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GJy3cQvHmjc



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huh

edit: dude you know you love all my videos
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Not nearly enough noise for a mountain run, stay on that throttle! Otherwise, very cool video. Now you need to start cracking on that engine.
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Yeah I could of definitely pushed it more... tires werent making a noise lol, just taking it easy didn't feel like getting out of 2nd gear

Engine mods? haha im done with that part, was putting down about 240whp before I got caught by state ref and had to take everything off. Cars all stock now except intake resonator removal.
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now you boys play nice here.
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Of course Mr. Lizard
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... get a 6 speed....
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been there done that
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Originally Posted by LIPPSTUH
... get a 6 speed....
he didn't like it and downgraded to an auto...
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lol this thread is about to get super off topic in a quick second
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he didn't like it and downgraded to an auto...
wth.... WHY? i mean you're doing mostly performance mods... might as well get a 6-speed.

i'd like to see ur new drop.. sportlines right?
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Read a few posts up im done with performance mods. I'll take some pics tomorrow if im not lazy and its not raining.
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Nice Video.

BTW - all you need is a screwdriver to adjust the Tokico 5 way adjustables
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no i dont think so... you need that black piece pictured that inserts into the valve pole thing.
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wait I see you own 2 sets of these, do each of your shocks have that black piece on the top of the valve? mine just have a hole with some lil nub inside that looks like it can be turned to set stiffness...
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Originally Posted by gc86
wait I see you own 2 sets of these, do each of your shocks have that black piece on the top of the valve? mine just have a hole with some lil nub inside that looks like it can be turned to set stiffness...
The piece you need is the red thing with the numbers and what not. I have mine set to 5 in the front 5 in the rear, wouldn't have it any other way
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Originally Posted by LIPPSTUH
wth.... WHY? i mean you're doing mostly performance mods... might as well get a 6-speed.

i'd like to see ur new drop.. sportlines right?
long story short, he didn't like the way the six speed shifts...

sorry OP...not trying to hijack the thread...just a curious member wanting to know.
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all good but i wanna know if theres a way to adjust the tokico illuminas without that tool
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Originally Posted by gc86
all good but i wanna know if theres a way to adjust the tokico illuminas without that tool
just a flat head would do
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Have you had them before? flat head works from personal experience?
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Originally Posted by gc86
Have you had them before? flat head works from personal experience?
adjusting those shocks are cake...should of had them adjusted before you put them in.

if you have the right tools to take the suspension out it shouldn't take you no more than a couple hours (or faster if you did it yourself, going off of not seeing posts you have made previously).

obviously the rear suspension is a pain because you have to take out the rear seat but that is just bolts and nuts you are dealing with.
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I know you weren't trying to set records or anything, but just a word of advice. Try not to play with the throttle during the turn. You are constantly changing the weight transfer when you do this. So in a balls out run, this could lead to bad things. Practicing the right driving techniques during your everyday driving helps a great deed with implanting the correct way to drive in your head for future scenarios. Nice video.
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We use to be major touge whores ourselves...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a9aJ0tps9I
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Originally Posted by Cocoa
I know you weren't trying to set records or anything, but just a word of advice. Try not to play with the throttle during the turn. You are constantly changing the weight transfer when you do this. So in a balls out run, this could lead to bad things. Practicing the right driving techniques during your everyday driving helps a great deed with implanting the correct way to drive in your head for future scenarios. Nice video.
Teacher as spoken

so what do you do when ur on a curve? do u let off the throttle then accelerate? the car feels like it has a lot of oversteer so i usually engine break until the turn is complete.
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Originally Posted by BigLizard
adjusting those shocks are cake...should of had them adjusted before you put them in.

if you have the right tools to take the suspension out it shouldn't take you no more than a couple hours (or faster if you did it yourself, going off of not seeing posts you have made previously).

obviously the rear suspension is a pain because you have to take out the rear seat but that is just bolts and nuts you are dealing with.
Wait.. so you're telling me the entire shock assembly has to be taken apart to adjust these?

From what it looks like you just adjust them from the top. It took me 3 hrs to install these yesterday, was my fifth time.

But thanks for the tip, the throttle on/off makes total sense because I could feel the car rocking.
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Teacher as spoken

so what do you do when ur on a curve? do u let off the throttle then accelerate? the car feels like it has a lot of oversteer so i usually engine break until the turn is complete.
There's no definite answer as to how to do it as every driver has different preferences and techniques, and every turn will be different (and then you learn to link turns). Some say it's better to "pitch" the car into a turn, others don't. Some say you should always have your foot on either the throttle or brake, others might not. With beginer drivers it's recommended to do all your braking before a turn, when you learn advance driving techniques that can change depending on your prefernce. Some turns might require some throttle, while others may not. And then of course the car makes a difference as well. But the easiest way to put it is, with basic math. You use 70% steering traction, that gives you 30% acceleration/deceleration traction (The more you turn the steering wheel, the more you come off the throttle, and vice versa). Once you hit the apex, you do accel out at a smooth rate. What you do to get to the apex, depends on everyting I just mentioned. But the safe way would be to do all your threshold braking in the straight line, kind of cruise to your apex, then accel out. Again, that will change with more and more track experience. You can watch the above video I just posted of my friend and see some of the things I'm talking about.

It is pretty complex as I'm leaving out a lot of info. This can't be explained in one paragragh. In fact, every sentence I made can be extended to a paragragh each. Honestly, pick up a book about driving techniques and read it. If you want to take it to the next step, practice those techniques at the tracks. If you want to take it even further, there are classes you can take with a professional instructor to show you, "the line".
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You're missing the two plastic pieces that go into the top of the strut. Contact Tokico and they'll send you out some so you can adjust your struts. Rear is not accessable from the top so it's more challenging to adjust.
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Yup called them earlier this morning they are sending me out those black/red pieces that insert on the top of the shock. How do you suggest I go about adjusting the rears? I dont mind taking out the back seats but that rear decklid cover is in the way.
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Originally Posted by Cocoa
There's no definite answer as to how to do it as every driver has different preferences and techniques, and every turn will be different (and then you learn to link turns). Some say it's better to "pitch" the car into a turn, others don't. Some say you should always have your foot on either the throttle or brake, others might not. With beginer drivers it's recommended to do all your braking before a turn, when you learn advance driving techniques that can change depending on your prefernce. Some turns might require some throttle, while others may not. And then of course the car makes a difference as well. But the easiest way to put it is, with basic math. You use 70% steering traction, that gives you 30% acceleration/deceleration traction (The more you turn the steering wheel, the more you come off the throttle, and vice versa). Once you hit the apex, you do accel out at a smooth rate. What you do to get to the apex, depends on everyting I just mentioned. But the safe way would be to do all your threshold braking in the straight line, kind of cruise to your apex, then accel out. Again, that will change with more and more track experience. You can watch the above video I just posted of my friend and see some of the things I'm talking about.

It is pretty complex as I'm leaving out a lot of info. This can't be explained in one paragragh. In fact, every sentence I made can be extended to a paragragh each. Honestly, pick up a book about driving techniques and read it. If you want to take it to the next step, practice those techniques at the tracks. If you want to take it even further, there are classes you can take with a professional instructor to show you, "the line".
that was a sick video thanks for the tip.
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