Well, it got delivered today ..... ~600hp normally aspirated! Pics are coming soon .....


AdamR

 

cock tease

 

Actually it seriously is but its for my mustang instead.

AdamR

 

Yeah, well you could have one bad ass CL.

 

he didn't have it in him to go the distance

 

600 HP from natural asprated motor no offence to Honda but a NSX motor can't touch that.:P
you think you blow trannies with Headers can you just think of 600 ponies
It would take a hell of engineering and custom work to get 600 HP out of even a 3.5 swap motor.(i think those are what 290-300 HP)
even if you had 100 shot of NOS you wouldn't touch that Mustang:P

 

Yeah, nobodys going to touch this mustang. Next in the works are an EFI conversion and then straight to turbo.....

AdamR

 

You must post pics of the engine soon. I also have a 1st gen mustang. 66/289/2bbl/4spd. It is not fast yet but one day. If you ditched the 65 mustang and put that motor in a Factory Five Cobra, you would have a car that nothing could touch.

 

No offense...but its power per liter, and power to weight....and Honda has it beat all the way....and Honda can get 600 hp NA, just a lot of rework of the motor is all..., I mean really Ford can't even compete in any of the top racing competitions in the world...F1, Kart, even freaking IRL

 

Well, figure it this way .... ~600 hp n/a in a 408ci engine comes out to roughly 6.75L or 88hp/L. The CL-S is 3.2L or 81hp/L ..... kind of a silly point considering its a pushrod motor. Just imagine a cobra motor, DOHC 4V .... mmmmm hmmmmm. Anyways here are the pics.





AdamR

 

you said hp to weight. Did I mention that my mustang sotck form the factory weights in at 2800lbs? 2800lbs/600hp ... not too bad and I dont think honda has me beat either!

AdamR

 

Oh..., i'm not doubting your v8...but yeah honda does have it beat....power to weight....you can dump that motor in a 94 accord...and have no sound insulation or any of that cutesy stuff just like your mustang....basically a shell...and then you can get a stroker kit...for the CL....and voila...a lot more power per liter...face facts honda makes more power per liter....but 600 hp is a product of displacement...

I like v8s too do don't get me wrong...hehehehe...also a 4.6L DOHC from Ford isn't gonna make more power than your pushrod N/A....I mean Ford gave up on the Cobra N/A route...cuz it couldnt compete with the GM 5.7L, so they put a blower in it.


BTW, I can't see that engine!!!

 

Well, I do think that honda is more efficient when it comes to building engines but that is mainly because of the use of VTEC and a bunch of other engine electronics. Remember, when you are talking about all the 5L pre 1996 and 4.6 engines they are all pushrod non-overhead cam motors. Now, dont jump to conculesions when you say that ford could not compete with the 5.7. Remember the FR500 or even the cobra R? The cobra R had 385hp ...... TO THE WHEELS which would equate to around 500 at the crank. As far as the use of the SC on the new cobra, I welcome an engine with a power adder instead of just raw displacement - this will make the cobra faster than the z06 and also more streetable. Go ford!


AdamR

 

why dopeople always compare ford's small engine to gm's large engine? when i had a 302 in my bronco only the 454's and 350's wanted to play. i never saw anyone with 305 asking me to dance. now i threw in a nicely massaged 351 with a KB S/C and the 454's all ran away. what's up with that?

saw what u will about the blue oval.....they still make the best selling vehicle in the world for the past 2 decades

 

I thought the camry or the accord was teh best selling vehicle in the world...

 

nope...there are more f series trucks sold in the world than any other production vehicle. one thing ford can do is trucks. wow how off topic has this thread become. consider this - the assembly plants that put these bad boys together have their own medical facilities (not some rinky dink first aid office) / fire service / utilities company and so on. traffic lights and street names throughout as well.

 

Digitalgm, nice engine, what are the specs? I want to see a pic of your mustang. I don't care what anyone says, a 600hp small block ford is force to be reckoned with and a 65 mustang is not a heavy car ~3000lbs, much lighter than a 5.0 aor new one at ~3500lbs. That shiat will haul ass!

 

speaking of hp/liter ratios...doesnt the S2000 (of which I used to own and it is an amazing car) has 120hp per liter..now that´s impressive and stock!

 

impressive ass hell! yea, that car kicks ass, it might not have 600 ponies in the hood, but it can actually turn without rolling over! The S2000 is so awesome in the twisties.

 

Yeah, I dont know what the hell - Like I said, take a look at the engine in the Cobra-R.... 500 hp! Hey man, what do you have in the 351? Is it a windsor or a cleveland? Stroked, power adder? Dish sistah!

Hey man, thanks for the compliments on the car. I have posted a bunch of pics below for your viewing pleasure.... enjoy! Ill post the specs later tonight!

 

Oh, how about this license plate? Get it?!?!?



AdamR

 

About the whole hp/l fight, I have yet to see Honda release a formidable (or any) V8 in a production car. How are u so sure their engineers will be so much better with high displacement??

 

And yea, i get the liscence plate.

 

Nice pics, what is the displacement of your engine?

 

I say ask Pull_T, he has a nice "Blue Oval" as well and I betcha he would hand just about any Acura it's ass!

I ain't hatin' either, I own an Acura now and have had 6 Mustangs in the past, and I am looking for my final pony car, a 1969 Fastback. I have the garage space to take my time and get her right, so that's what I shall get for my birthday present.

I still lay claim to 2 Fords in the family, but I also drive my CL with pride and joy!

Kick ASS Adam!

 

fleet sales don't count...

 

I love the car, but I don't care for the wheels but that's just my opinion. Do you know if the 2000 "bullit" wheels will fit on a 66 with all Drums? Keep up the good work!

 

LOL... that's fine...they don't have to....the statement still holds though. lemme guess...only sales to 50+ indo-asian mothers of 2 or more internal medicine physicians count...is that about right?

 

it's a windsor. kept the bottom end pretty much to stock #'s. crank and rods are forged. pistons to handle NA almost 10:1. AFR heads w. 185CC chamber. the rockers are Crane gold and stock at 1.6:1 ratio. no bolts -ARP 12 point studs everywhere. valves are 1.06 and 1.20. can't find the cam profile just now - moved recently. jacobs ignition. ford lightning PCM. ford mass air - speed density conversion. 80mm MAF. 75mm TB. K&N cone. Kenne Bell 2.2L BLOWZILLA supercharger.

this is on a 92 bronco with a 4 inch lift and 35" meats...never rolled - never even close

oh...and on my third tranny and second driveshaft. would like to go to a 9" rear and a C6 trans but wanna play with the CL-s for a bit. i think it feels ignored

 

GOT PSI : the engine currently displaces 408 cubic inches

Nice man! If you need help looking for one, let me know as I know a couple people!

Yeah, I dont like the wheels either - I was not the one who put them on though. They were on the car when I bought it. I am looking at getting the Torw Thrust II's in chrome (17x11) with some nice Victor Racer V700 rubber on there 335/35/ZR17.... niiiice! As far as the bullitt wheels go, I dont know if they will fit or not. Have you taken a look at the torq thrusts or the D's?


Sounds VERY NICE bud!!! What pulley you got on the SC and how much boost are we talking about? Got any pictures - this sounds like a very nice car!

AdamR

 

Ohhhhh Nooooooo, here goes another conversation about horsepower to the wheels and crank!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Naw....just wanted to bust AdamRs chops...heheheh...he's got a pretty cherry looking stang.....

 

Hey man, thanks again for the compliments - really makes my day!

AdamR

 

anytime any car maker can get 100 HP per Liter(or close) that car will RUN:P . look at S2000, the last series Prelude(195 HP almost 100 HP per Liter),Integra Type R.
could you imagine if the Accord or CL-S was 100 HP a Liter that means 300 HP for the Accord(which it's getting closer with the 03 at 240 HP:P) and 320 HP for the CL(that thing would SCREAM )

 

The last lude was a 2.3 with 195, which is 84hp/L....

 

I love the II's in 17". Nice wheels but the Bullit Wheels are like $400 on ebay. I have heard that they don't fit but I want to know why. Ask any mustang buudies you may if they know. No one around here has been able to tell me.

 

May I suggest forums.stangnet.com ... they have a great classic stangs section and I can usually get any answers I need there....

AdamR

 

2.2L with 200hp (manual)... 90.9hp/L